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OK I'm going to put up some hands from a tournament I played on Sunday.

Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players - http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/391706
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SB: t4000       M = 88.89
BB: t3395       M = 75.44
UTG: t2890       M = 64.22
UTG+1: t2950       M = 65.56
MP1: t2900       M = 64.44
MP2: t3460       M = 76.89
CO: t4450       M = 98.89
Hero (BTN): t2955       M = 65.67

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with Qs Qd
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 2 folds, CO calls t120, Hero...

3bet to 450-500

id defo do a 'flat-call' and go for triple queens.

lol leknave ive flat called before, is doing a 'flat call' something different

i make it 410

I don't mind a call here tbh. I usually 3 bet but an occasional call is fine too.

If we hit a set it's so well hidden that nobody can ever put us on it. If we miss we're deep enough to get value further down the line on a decent board. At this early stage in this type of tournament someone will donk off their stack to us with A9 on a 9 high board.

Either flat or 3bet, if we 3bet plz not one of these monster 3bet's 450-500 is crazy imo might as well shove, 360 would do the trick.

Only played two rounds and Villain had played three hands. He had raised once before this, from the blinds (no showdown).

At this early stage yes I can 3bet for value but then villain can put me in a difficult spot if he shoves, right? I don't want to race with AK for stacks, I don't want to be stacked by AA/KK, and I don't want 99-JJ/AQ etc folding to my 3-bet.

I chose to do a 'flat-call' and use position to i) try and avoid being stacked by AA/KK on a low board, ii) extract value from worse hands and iii) get out if the wrong board and the wrong action happens.

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with Qs Qd
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 2 folds, CO calls t120, Hero calls t120, 2 folds

Flop: (t405) 4d 4s 4h (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t210, CO calls t210, Hero....

3bet isnt bad obv but I dont mind flatting.

I dont mind over shoving here, and expect to get called from 77-JJ most of the time and even sometimes a funky AK.

In a stars $50 tournament you're not in a difficult spot if he shoves. The only difficulty should be bringing your finger down from the ceiling to click the call button before you time out.

As played there is no need to over shove as there is only 2 cards to come and possible 6 outs between them. We want to drag all their chips in.

do a fold... and wait for a better spot?

Pre flop or now?

Either way WTF!!!!! Please tell me you're joking?

when? how? why?

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with  Qs Qd
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t120, 2 folds, CO calls t120, Hero calls t120, 2 folds

Flop: (t405) 4d 4s 4h   (3 players)
UTG+1 bets t210, CO calls t210, Hero calls t210

Turn: (t1035) 2d (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero....

PPFFF WHAT?!?!! how are you not getting it in on this flop?!?? flatting flop is super bad, make it like 750 and never fold.

given our hand is so super underrepped, if the turn comes an overcard to a pp they are much less likely to get the chips in, pretty much any pair is getting it in here and loving it. easiest way to get chips ahead or behind is on the flop. it's not about getting outdrawn

i would play the hand the same and then when checked to on the turn i would bet 690 or summat so that on the river i have an easy shove. (the pots 1k ish when check to u? uhave like 2.5k back, leaves u 1900 on the river and if u get 1 caller the pot will be 2400).  if sum1 crai on the turn i would sigh and call (more sigh if the opener jams than the caller).

If you raise the flop you are repping the nuts.  Im not too sure QQ is the nuts on the flop and therefore  you are overplaying your hand unless you think you can get one of them to spazz.  The only problem with flatting the flop is that you always have a hand like 88+ and therefore its unlikey ther opener will barrel air when his flop bet gets 2 callers.  Being in position in this hand allows you to try valuetown/ stack  JJ- anyway.

mmmm interesting comments from Hat and King - if i raise flop i'm overrepping my hand but any face card on turn could kill my action.

At the time I have to admit I was playing careful because I'm genuinely worried that utg opener has AA or KK. My thinking was flat pre flop and see what develops, flat the flop and see if he bets the turn. If he doesn't bet the turn then he doesn't have AA or KK, so lets take a little stroll down to value town....

Turn: (t1035) 2d (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets t550, UTG+1 folds, CO calls t550

River: (t2135) Qc (2 players)
CO checks, Hero...

Open-fold seems good now.

hatt is spot on here

fyp

lol so bad

lol

just kidding.  I just wanted to use the phrase.... "do a fold"  its something my 7 year old nephew would say.