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First thread here on PHA so thought I'd ask you guys opinions on a situation I find myself in alot.

Villian is a big winning reg, 10/8/4%3bet over 40k hands.

We probably should have history over 40k hands but i dont really remember much, only notes i have are "calls my double barrel on 89T9 board with KQo then bets 3/4 pot on x river as bluff, i call with 22 and scoop".

Villian sees me as 18/15/4%3bet, I happen to have been caught bluffing twice recently on this table.


Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $48.10
UTG+1: $103.00
MP1: $51.50
MP2: $157.80
CO: $119.75
BTN: $55.00
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $143.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with  7s 4c
6 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $24, Hero..??

We are 100bb deep what do you like to do?

Shoving seems bad, as if he calls im screwed, although it could be really good for future metagame seeing as we will no doubt be playing 1000s of hands together.

I cant really 5bet fold, i can 5bet to 48$ and call if he shoves because im pot committed, that seems like a feasable option because i think he folds to my 5bet alot.

Calling seems like my best option, its only 14$ to call and pot will be 48$, with 76$ behind so leaves room for me to fold or for me to bluff him off his hand. Also my hand will be competely disguised and i have position.

Can always fold but it just didnt feel right this hand.

Dont flame me just want your guys opinions, no 1 word answers please.

Fold >>>> flat after he raises to $3 for me. Why did you have the urge to raise him there?

its 100nl, why are we trying to complicate ourselves 5betting with 74o? Surely better spots on tbl?

Wow. This guy is a total nit he opens 8% of hands and you want to 3bet him with 7-4o this is not a profitable play. Just fold, just because he bluffed you once in the past with KQo doesnt mean anything tbh. You have position sure but this guys range is pretty small given his stats, whats his 4betting range?! I imagine tiny which makes this a snap fold for me, just wait for a better spot dude.. next time 3bet him with a premium and get it in.

Yeah just pass.

you've played 40k hands with him and remember nothing about how he plays, what makes you think he's going to remember this particular hand?

if you're 3 betting 74o it's always with the intention of folding....

Glad to help

I'm with the Beanster here. 

Your bet is a bluff, and what are you hoping to achieve with the 4-bet call?  Surely this will be a massive leak, especially at 100NL.

The 3-bet is fine tbh, regs are raising BTN and SB ATC and obviously the value I lose over 1 hand in a vacuum is minimal but over 100k's hands its obviously a lot so thats not the issue.

If I had shoved would my hand have become suited? that is cool.

I think I explained my process in decision of 4betcall/5betbluff, hows the theory?

I mean, can i really assume that just because I don't remember he doesnt? I dont know but he may only play 6 or so tables so for all I know he has a shit load of notes on me and remembers me by sn?

The 3 bet is fine if you're 3 bet folding, this is not the hand to be getting stubborn to a 10/8's 4 bet, dont care if it's blind on blind.


The theory is terrible to 4 bet call or 5 bet bluff.


What is his ATS stat? What range does he open bvb.  is he a life nit till it gets bvb then he 4 bet folds with 100% frequency, if he has that game style then a 5 bet shove is uber profitable.

If not man up and click the fold button waving good bye to your 3 bet.

I thought he was a nit not ATC, even if it is 3b every time someone opens from the SB is going to be slightly explotable.


Eh?

ppl with his stats are not getting into levelling wars, they are just sticking it in with a good hand against ppl who are trying to outlevel them.

Do you have HEM?  It will tell you what villains sb/button open raising % are - I'd be surprised if it is anywhere near ATC.

Eh?
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someone quoted the hand and 74o turned into 74suited somehow.

I mean 3bet is kinda autopilot but meh 24 tables etc its still profitable vs him and im not 3betting everytime, i try to keep it only slightly above my overall 3bet range bvb (which includes alot of bluffs obv to balance)

from here I elect to call as I said in the OP that its only $14 more and pot is $48 and i have $78 behind so can either bluff him, get him all in or fold depending on what the flop is, thoughts?

Calling  seem like such massive spew, that there has to be a better word for it than spew. If he cbets the flop he is pot committed so unless you smash the flop it is pretty much gg.

It's not spew it's just bad rotflmfao

Ha seems a good price....

umm, i beg to differ:

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $48.10
UTG+1: $103.00
MP1: $51.50
MP2: $157.80
CO: $119.75
BTN: $55.00
SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $143.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 7 4
6 folds, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $24, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($48.00) 6 8 5 (2 players)
SB bets $30.50, Hero raises to $119 all in, SB calls $45.50 all in

Turn: ($200.00) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($200.00) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $200.00
SB shows K K (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Hero shows 7 4 (a straight, Four to Eight)
Hero wins $197.00
(Rake: $3.00)

The crucial thing here is that I managed to get max value from a big hand with a 'bad' hand, when a bluff goes wrong it doesn't mean you cant win, and get your money in a big favourite without having to suckout.

Lol ok, which blondeite's gimmick account is this.

level was going so well until that post.

fml, i think i've been rumbled.

well given the drivel strategy i typed in OP wasnt being slated nearly as hard as it should have it's probably best to come clean.

pretty awesome genuine misclick to call the 4bet vs someone who's range is AA/KK only though amirite!!?! HA xpert

Meh saw Grundy missclick call 25 pre for thousands, flop the wheel and get the rest in v the set of aces, was pretty com.

NL100 regs are not opening ATC from the button or the SB.  in fact most regs arent opening 20% from the SB

Good spot Longy.

We are on the case.

Sigh, ffs.

What are multi-accounting rules on Blonde?

It's not permitted, because it always causes grief & it wastes the Mods time sorting it out.

[ ] multi-accounting

Please see your PMs about both your accounts and the one you'd like us to close please

Alright Sammy

"Counterfeit King" & another account, were one & the same, & after being asked to choose one or the other, has requested us to close both.

Always happy to oblige.

I fold preflop. I don't see the value in calling against this player. Given we three-bet, and he four-bets, it's an insta-fold.

Sigh.

can i ask how the multi accounting thing was spotted?  I seem to have missed it!  Am I being stupid?

Yea.

IP match obv to a banned account.