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Hi all, opinions welcomed to settle a dispute between myself and a friend on how i played this hand.

180 mtt on Stars $10+$1, about 40ish left 20 get paid. Looking to win not limp to cash!

Seat 2: L Tilto (11789 in chips)
Seat 4: Coconut Soda (17246 in chips)
Seat 6: Fishstickkk (27797 in chips)
Seat 7: brainbody (14794 in chips)
Seat 8: denbruut (4812 in chips)
Seat 9: Baccash (11717 in chips)
L Tilto: posts the ante 50
Coconut Soda: posts the ante 50
Fishstickkk: posts the ante 50
brainbody: posts the ante 50
denbruut: posts the ante 50
Baccash: posts the ante 50
Baccash: posts small blind 200
L Tilto: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to L Tilto [ Jh Js]
Coconut Soda: folds
Fishstickkk: folds
brainbody: folds
denbruut: raises 750 to 1150
Baccash: folds

Raiser has been fairly loose and aggressive.

So the question is whats your play with the Jacks?

Call and assess flop OR,
Re-raise and if so how much? (That's the important bit)

Appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks
Pete

I make it 2750

Sounds about right. And if it's a loose aggro player then I'm looking to call a jam, especially given the stack sizes.

4813

4763. No point wasting that extra 50 that Titbeam's putting in.

Villain only has 4762 by my estimation. By betting more than his stack you might make him uneasy as he knows he's playing for his tournament life. I bet 4761 so villain might think he has fold equity and can call and see a flop then asses from there.

But if the flop comes AKQ surely we have to fold if he bets his last chip?

After his raise he's only got 3612 back, but i get your drift....put him allin!

And in doing so we've saved ourselves a chip. Alternatively we might just decide bugger it, throw caution to the wind, and call hoping he's got a lower pair than us.

Yea i also put him all in

Just set him in.

Set him in
 shoving  could be abit iffy

lol what?

But yeah don't see how you and your friend could possibly share such a difference of opinion on what seems like the most standard shove ever.

I dont normally post, i read the boards a lot tho. My mates view did get bemused i had to get other opinions.
My play was to set him allin (i did not push as thats iffy  ;)) my mate said that was wrong, he said a raise was the play. He was adamant me putting him allin was wrong!! I just cant see it based on the stack size of the raiser and the fact i was the only player left.

Raising and putting him all in are the same thing.

;booder;

Lol didn't see that u was the last to act

Shove raise same thing

Stop and go him
Its the mother of all leaks and gets no respect

Sn of your mate, so i can follow him round on stars and bumhunt.

Are we setting him in for value???

Of course, we have a jack and another jack. The 5th best hand in unlimited holdem.

Really, where's the value??? He only calls us with better hands and AK.

I would call preflop. Check-call on a non ace board (if we check he almost def moves in). Check-fold on an ace board.

He has 10bbs!!! If he is getting it in with qq+ and ak, he is bigger nit than Tikay and given there is no read in the op, i have taken that to not be the case.

lol longy, bite more pls!

The thing is if you had put this I would ignore you, but I fear i am not being levelled here.

Yes this thread has put me on tilt this morning.

raise folding in his position is terrible.

lol so com he bites more than Jaws!

sigh paulho - just think donk leading flops is bad - we let it go now?

The main strategic reason I went for this line which evilpie has completely missed is that we feel like winners every time regardless of the outcome of the hand because we get returned a chip even if villain cawls, yay!