Title: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 03, 2010, 06:29:09 AM Is 5-bet/call the best option here really? Seems a bit spewy.
Full Tilt Poker Game #18139041370: Table Afterburner (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:15:38 ET - 2010/02/03 Seat 1: dmlavigne1 ($86.70) Seat 2: rkwlrkwlgofk ($215.70) Seat 3: hey6foot6 ($45.70) Seat 4: Foaming_Homer ($179.50) Seat 5: WhatUpWeedMang ($606.10) Seat 6: MrDinosaur1 ($145.15) MrDinosaur1 posts the small blind of $0.50 dmlavigne1 posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Foaming_Homer [Ac Kc] rkwlrkwlgofk has 8 seconds left to act rkwlrkwlgofk folds hey6foot6 raises to $3.50 Foaming_Homer raises to $11 WhatUpWeedMang has 15 seconds left to act WhatUpWeedMang raises to $27 MrDinosaur1 folds dmlavigne1 folds hey6foot6 folds Foaming_Homer has no clue what to do here. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 03, 2010, 06:53:08 AM Fold here?
Full Tilt Poker Game #18139439462: Table Afterburner (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:41:29 ET - 2010/02/03 Seat 1: Foaming_Homer ($114) Seat 2: dbwldbs ($125.85) Seat 3: ddalrock ($172.40) Seat 4: goodoldbm ($190.05) Seat 5: oursurveysaid ($88.95) Seat 6: maxems ($348.25) maxems posts the small blind of $0.50 Foaming_Homer posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Foaming_Homer [Qh Ac] dbwldbs folds ddalrock folds goodoldbm raises to $3 oursurveysaid calls $3 maxems folds Foaming_Homer raises to $15.50 goodoldbm has 15 seconds left to act goodoldbm raises to $32 oursurveysaid folds Foaming_Homer has 15 seconds left to act Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 03, 2010, 06:59:12 AM Finally, line check here. Should I possibly be flatting here pre?
Full Tilt Poker Game #18139493168: Table Afterburner (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:45:04 ET - 2010/02/03 Seat 1: nevermo ($141.30) Seat 2: woody984 ($301.25) Seat 3: fmeany ($102.55) Seat 4: Foaming_Homer ($258.50) Seat 5: HomeRow ($258.95) Seat 6: Gocrazy77 ($295.70) fmeany posts the small blind of $0.50 Foaming_Homer posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Foaming_Homer [Jc Js] HomeRow raises to $4 Gocrazy77 folds nevermo folds woody984 folds fmeany folds Foaming_Homer raises to $14 HomeRow has 15 seconds left to act HomeRow calls $10 *** FLOP *** [7h 3s 6c] Foaming_Homer has 15 seconds left to act Foaming_Homer bets $17.50 HomeRow calls $17.50 *** TURN *** [7h 3s 6c] [8h] Foaming_Homer checks HomeRow has 15 seconds left to act HomeRow checks *** RIVER *** [7h 3s 6c 8h] [9d] Foaming_Homer checks HomeRow checks *** SHOW DOWN *** Foaming_Homer shows [Jc Js] a pair of Jacks HomeRow shows [Qs Qd] a pair of Queens HomeRow wins the pot ($60.50) with a pair of Queens Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: byronkincaid on February 03, 2010, 08:09:06 AM everybody got stats on rush now. PT3 have got a HUD working, HEM is still the export to stats thing AFAIK, things are moving pretty fast, might have changed overnight or whatever
Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: outragous76 on February 03, 2010, 08:26:34 AM Hand 1 I'm getting them in against a big stack. I think that there is a good chance he is folding to your next raise
Hand 2 is marginal but I think I can find a fold Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: Woodsey on February 03, 2010, 11:47:20 AM 1. Ship
2. Fold 3. You did well to lose so little, what do you do if he bets say 3/4 pot on turn? Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 03, 2010, 11:59:10 AM I was chatting to luckyscrote about the hands, he thinks hand one (without reads) is a fold because of the stack sizes, hand two is a fold and but the last hand I should probably bet/fold the turn as the only hands I'm losing to that might shove are 9's and maybe 5's.
In answer to your question Woodsey, I think I probably would've folded the turn. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: outragous76 on February 03, 2010, 01:25:09 PM Chris, as much as i respect dans view i think that the re raise works BECAUSE of the stack sizes.
He can easily fold to your raise knowing that he is now committted to another $200 or so with only 27 in now (ie you arent folding). HIs play looks strong (as it is a cold 4 bet) - but therefore it is an easy play with minimal exposure compared to his stack. Below is a hand i played a similar way (cross posted from the rush poker thread). I make this play alot - i have raised UTG in teh rush poker format, therefore my 4 bet looks super strong - but i can still fold if he 5 bets. FWIW i havent seen a light 5 bet in this format yet. Full Tilt Poker Game #18076326707: Table Adrenaline - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:48:39 ET - 2010/01/31 Seat 1: Pistol Repete ($122.85) Seat 2: kauZey ($308.25) Seat 3: PHILIVEY9563 ($226.05) Seat 4: JLsqad ($40.35) Seat 5: rogbjoern ($8.95) Seat 6: krayziebone17 ($168.60) Seat 7: outragous76 ($546.80) Seat 8: Donec Impleat ($80) Seat 9: SUNNNY510 ($107.65) rogbjoern posts the small blind of $0.50 krayziebone17 posts the big blind of $1 The button is in seat #4 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to outragous76 [td 8c ] outragous76 raises to $3 Donec Impleat folds SUNNNY510 has 15 seconds left to act SUNNNY510 has timed out SUNNNY510 folds Pistol Repete folds kauZey folds PHILIVEY9563 raises to $11 JLsqad folds rogbjoern folds krayziebone17 folds outragous76 raises to $36 PHILIVEY9563 folds Uncalled bet of $25 returned to outragous76 outragous76 mucks outragous76 wins the pot ($23.50) *** SUMMARY *** also you have AK green - what can go wrong? Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: GreekStein on February 03, 2010, 01:57:42 PM Hand 2 is a fold imo, his rr looks sick strong. I'd have to have a lot more info on villain to do anything else but fold there.
Hand 1, Scrote is prob right but the games I've played in have been so ripe with 3 and 4 betting that I'm getting it in here. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: doubleup on February 03, 2010, 02:06:25 PM Hand 1, Scrote is prob right but the games I've played in have been so ripe with 3 and 4 betting that I'm getting it in here. Are you both taking the fact that the opener is shortish into account? ie I think the 4 bet is more likely for value than not. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: EvilPie on February 03, 2010, 02:32:44 PM 1 - Get it in. If your stack size means you shouldn't get it in here then close this table and open up again with 50 bigs.
2 - Sigh fold 3 - WP. You can't beat anything at all. If he's got AK or AQ he's not calling a river bet. He probably hero calls everything that beats you unless you bet very big. Nice escape. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: Cf on February 03, 2010, 02:39:09 PM 1 - Fold, or get it in. I've not played these myself but hear there's a lot of 3/4betting going on. Villian has big stack. Either he's been hit in the face by the deck or has been getting it in quite often. I'm prob happy to get AKg in here.
2 - Fold. 3 - Seems fine. Prob don't bet as don't see many hands he has that pay off with worse than us. If he bets then tricky decision but I'm probably folding. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: doubleup on February 03, 2010, 04:14:02 PM So many ppl who love bluffing ITT A question for you - if you call the 4 bet and c/r the flop (assuming neither of you improve) do you think that villain will call or fold with a different range than they would have preflop? Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: UpTheMariners on February 03, 2010, 09:04:39 PM hand 1 - fold, getting in here at .5/1 v unkown who's probably straight forward is really bad.
hand 2 - i'd call pre if i'm not happy about getting it in pre flop hand 3 - similar situation you really need to be asking yourself why am i 3 betting? i'd prob call pre v unknown but don't mind 3bet. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: Numpty Dumpty on February 03, 2010, 10:21:20 PM 1. fold. horrible to get it in because of stack sizes
2. fold. too easy to be tempted into calling, but this is such a bad spot. 3. be glad he didnt bet the turn, and that the river brought 4 to a straight. correct play from you imo - i like the check on the turn with a view to value betting any small card/pair up on the end - most players read you for AK/AQ and call with poo. if he bets when you check the turn i think you have to sigh and check-call down, but maybe you can escape the river Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: Dubai on February 03, 2010, 11:11:10 PM 1- Shove
2- Shove 3- Bet/fold turn Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: lucky_scrote on February 04, 2010, 01:39:55 AM 1- Shove 2- Shove 3- Bet/fold turn This isn't 5/10 where people keep putting you in tough spots. Shoving hand 1 isn't too bad 170bb's deep, I told Chris to fold though but don't mind shoving too much. I think shoving hand 2 is criminal 120bb's deep. His calling range has you smashed and it's not often that he's bluffing too often at .50/1 in this scenario. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 04, 2010, 05:26:35 AM Just had this 4bet cold called. Check/fold flop as his line is super strong?
Full Tilt Poker Game #18165500570: Table Swiftly Tilting (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:10:21 ET - 2010/02/04 Seat 1: OFC Farva ($361.90) Seat 2: olleri ($195) Seat 3: lucksallugot ($517.70) Seat 4: Foaming_Homer ($206) Seat 5: HitNrun King ($200) Seat 6: Troll Pie ($200) OFC Farva posts the small blind of $1 olleri posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Foaming_Homer [Ah Kc] lucksallugot has 8 seconds left to act lucksallugot folds Foaming_Homer raises to $6 HitNrun King folds Troll Pie raises to $21 OFC Farva folds olleri folds Foaming_Homer has 15 seconds left to act Foaming_Homer raises to $52 Troll Pie calls $31 *** FLOP *** [5s 3h 5c] I hate this spot, but it's probably a fold right? Full Tilt Poker Game #18165568377: Table Swiftly Tilting (6 max) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:13:52 ET - 2010/02/04 Seat 1: Dynamisk ($142.45) Seat 2: Foaming_Homer ($238.20) Seat 3: MrSmokey1 ($1,068.60) Seat 4: Negrodamus2 ($306.85) Seat 5: BillFristLOL ($316.35) Seat 6: aalbo1 ($189.70) aalbo1 posts the small blind of $1 Dynamisk posts the big blind of $2 The button is in seat #5 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to Foaming_Homer [As Ah] Foaming_Homer has 8 seconds left to act Foaming_Homer raises to $6 MrSmokey1 calls $6 Negrodamus2 folds BillFristLOL folds aalbo1 folds Dynamisk calls $4 *** FLOP *** [7s 6d Jc] Dynamisk checks Foaming_Homer bets $14 MrSmokey1 calls $14 Dynamisk calls $14 *** TURN *** [7s 6d Jc] [Kh] Dynamisk bets $61 Foaming_Homer has 15 seconds left to act Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: pleno1 on February 04, 2010, 05:33:24 AM 1.shove
2.fold 3.b/f turn as played c/f. Title: Re: Spot in NL rush poker I really hate. Post by: outragous76 on February 04, 2010, 11:01:18 AM in the 2nd lot of hands - ive witnessesed alot of people doing that with AA - i fold when i miss in those spots
hand 2 with the AA - its a very good fold if you make it - but yeah prob v's 2 opponents |