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Title: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 06:09:51 PM
Why has Rooks been banned for life?

Shieldsy told me it was him who put up the posts Rooks was banned for.

The punishments given to individuals over this stuff are not corresponding with their individual actions.

This place is becoming a bit of a joke.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Cf on April 09, 2010, 06:43:34 PM
cos for mod


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 06:53:26 PM
Why has Rooks been banned for life?

Shieldsy told me it was him who put up the posts Rooks was banned for.

The punishments given to individuals over this stuff are not corresponding with their individual actions.

This place is becoming a bit of a joke.

ip numbers dont match your claims cos


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: George2Loose on April 09, 2010, 07:11:30 PM
Rooks has been banned for life? Wow


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 07:20:38 PM
Why has Rooks been banned for life?

Shieldsy told me it was him who put up the posts Rooks was banned for.

The punishments given to individuals over this stuff are not corresponding with their individual actions.

This place is becoming a bit of a joke.

ip numbers dont match your claims cos

Rooks was logged in under Shieldsy's name after he was banned so that he could view the forum.

Shieldsy did the other posts from his house. He will confirm this if ever asked.



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: MC on April 09, 2010, 07:21:01 PM
Did I miss something?! Wtf happened???


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 07:42:29 PM
Why has Rooks been banned for life?

Shieldsy told me it was him who put up the posts Rooks was banned for.

The punishments given to individuals over this stuff are not corresponding with their individual actions.

This place is becoming a bit of a joke.

ip numbers dont match your claims cos

Rooks was logged in under Shieldsy's name after he was banned so that he could view the forum.

Shieldsy did the other posts from his house. He will confirm this if ever asked.



each post made is linked to an ip

the ip used for the posts were made from rookies ip same ip he had used on his own account when he was banned


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: kinboshi on April 09, 2010, 07:52:08 PM
Why has Rooks been banned for life?

Shieldsy told me it was him who put up the posts Rooks was banned for.

The punishments given to individuals over this stuff are not corresponding with their individual actions.

This place is becoming a bit of a joke.

Are you commenting with all the facts?  Or just having a rant again?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 09, 2010, 07:52:33 PM
(handshake)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 07:58:58 PM
sigh


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: outragous76 on April 09, 2010, 08:17:27 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:19:31 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 08:21:22 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal I'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 08:22:07 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

Yes I am afraid so, as is Horneris. Both of them will be back, we hope

Leaving aside the facts and whys and wherefores of the the particular incidents here which were handled privately and continue to be so sadly the mods were put in a very tough spot indeed here.

We, none of us, ever want to ban and in doing so lose any member but when it involves people we've known for a while, in many cases like personally and when they often make a big contribution it does especially sting.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
Which thread was it?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:25:15 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal 'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)

nice dig tracey meoow ;-)ng

thats only irons word im afraid, i know differently, wouldnt be the first time iron has claimed ben's done or said something and then been wrong


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 08:27:16 PM
ban op please


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 08:33:11 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal 'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)

nice dig tracey meoow ;-)ng

ithats only irons word im afraid, i know differently, wouldnt be the first time iron has claimed ben's done or said something and then been wro

the trace on the ips was done on tuesday by the mod team when the mods got back from the weekends updates, on tuesday i was in hospital for an operation i had on wednessday and only had limited access on my phone so took no part into the investigation or the bans. i have every faith in the mod team and have read the many post on the mods board on this issue and believe the evidance holds up

i could look into the evidance myself but i feel that the mod team as a whole are much better at this than me on my own so cant see me bringing up anything new.

as ben has already emailed me accusing me of having a problem with him (which i dont) i am unsure if i would even want to spend the next few hours looking through the evidance (which is pretty strong) or go to my bed and recoup as i was planning too


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 08:35:01 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal 'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)

nice dig tracey meoow ;-)ng

thats only irons word im afraid, i know differently, wouldnt be the first time iron has claimed ben's done or said something and then been wrong

Sigh - my post wasn't meant to be a dig - if I want to say something about you I will say it straight out. I just choose not to in most circumstances, I prefer to keep the peace.

My post was meant to remind you that despite your ban you managed to deal with it to your satisfaction, in other words if Rookie wants to come back I'm sure he will be in touch, make a good case for it, and you can help him because you've done it before.

No point reinventing the wheel imo, use your experience to help him if you want to, and if he wants to come back.



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 08:35:30 PM
Who is shieldsy?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:36:12 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal 'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)

nice dig tracey meoow ;-)ng

ithats only irons word im afraid, i know differently, wouldnt be the first time iron has claimed ben's done or said something and then been wro

the trace on the ips was done on tuesday by the mod team when the mods got back from the weekends updates, on tuesday i was in hospital for an operation i had on wednessday and only had limited access on my phone so took no part into the investigation or the bans. i have every faith in the mod team and have read the many post on the mods board on this issue and believe the evidance holds up

i could look into the evidance myself but i feel that the mod team as a whole are much better at this than me on my own so cant see me bringing up anything new.

as ben has already emailed me accusing me of having a problem with him (which i dont) i am unsure if i would even want to spend the next few hours looking through the evidance (which is pretty strong) or go to my bed and recoup as i was planning too

thats right personal vendetta over evidence works every time ;-)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 08:36:43 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:37:44 PM
it was a fairly grim post tbf - wasnt necessary and he should know better

is chip rich banned or not - he hasnt been around either?

yes rooks you should no better lol he didnt post the stuff hes banned for so how can he know better?

I'm sure the decision wasn't taken lightly. As Ironside said the ip addresses matched. If he wants to appeal 'm sure he will, you can give him some pointers..... ;-)

nice dig tracey meoow ;-)ng

thats only irons word im afraid, i know differently, wouldnt be the first time iron has claimed ben's done or said something and then been wrong

Sigh - my post wasn't meant to be a dig - if I want to say something about you I will say it straight out. I just choose not to in most circumstances, I prefer to keep the peace.

My post was meant to remind you that despite your ban you managed to deal with it to your satisfaction, in other words if Rookie wants to come back I'm sure he will be in touch, make a good case for it, and you can help him because you've done it before.

No point reinventing the wheel imo, use your experience to help him if you want to, and if he wants to come back.



as far as im aware at the moment he doesnt but that doesnt mean he should be banned for something het done hasn


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:39:01 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

its a life ban laxie how does that blow over? how is that working together? ben hsnt even been asked to explain himself or give his side


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

How difficult is it for an adult to refrain from posting something which will upset or offend another user of an internet poker forum?

And who is Shieldsy?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:39:58 PM
Who is shieldsy?

a fat mate of mine and rookies who talks and posts shit when hes drunk lol


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:42:02 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

How difficult is it for an adult to refrain from posting something which will upset or offend another user of an internet poker forum?

And who is Shieldsy?

imsure you may have said or posted something in the past that may have upset someone surely? especially here on blonde where sensitivity is at its highest ;-)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Acidmouse on April 09, 2010, 08:46:26 PM
if its the post i saw then it was disgusting and happily i didn't open while at work or that is me in trouble. Whoever did it wants a slap.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 08:47:10 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

How difficult is it for an adult to refrain from posting something which will upset or offend another user of an internet poker forum?

And who is Shieldsy?

imsure you may have said or posted something in the past that may have upset someone surely? especially here on blonde where sensitivity is at its highest ;-)

Doubt it very much ;)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 08:47:24 PM
If Rookie wants to appeal he will.

I am happy for Blonde mods to moderate this forum, and I think they do it well. If a mistake is made they are capable of sorting it out. I back the mods wholeheartedly. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:48:20 PM
if its the post i saw then it was disgusting and happily i didn't open while at work or that is me in trouble. Whoever did it wants a slap.

never see the post so i cant comment but surely u wouldnt want to slap the wrong person would u?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:48:57 PM
If Rookie wants to appeal he will.

I am happy for Blonde mods to moderate this forum, and I think they do it well. If a mistake is made they are capable of sorting it out. I back the mods wholeheartedly. 

hear hear


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 09, 2010, 08:52:50 PM
could we have some sort of hostage exchange? you give us rooks, brent and rich back and I've got a list of names you can choose from. it's quite long but you can have any 6 people you like off of it, I'll probs stretch to 8 at a push


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 08:53:21 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

its a life ban laxie how does that blow over? how is that working together? ben hsnt even been asked to explain himself or give his side

From what I've heard, there were loads of pics posted and comments made.  Some were posted from Ben's account, some posted from the other Lad's accounts.  Who posted them?
  
If it's gone down differently, the onus is on Ben to go to the mods and make his case.  Maybe he should approach them.  Pretty sure the mods don't usually chase down banned members for an alternative explanation to events.

FWIW, I've nothing against the Lads and hope they get it sorted, but going into pit bull mode won't get it done.



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 08:58:09 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

its a life ban laxie how does that blow over? how is that working together? ben hsnt even been asked to explain himself or give his side

From what I've heard, there were loads of pics posted and comments made.  Some were posted from Ben's account, some posted from the other Lad's accounts.  Who posted them?
  
If it's gone down differently, the onus is on Ben to go to the mods and make his case.  Maybe he should approach them.  Pretty sure the mods don't usually chase down banned members for an alternative explanation to events.

FWIW, I've nothing against the Lads and hope they get it sorted, but going into pit bull mode won't get it done.



whose in pitbull mode ? lmao


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 08:59:04 PM
Nobody - yet.   rotflmfao


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: LeKnave on April 09, 2010, 09:04:44 PM
could we have some sort of hostage exchange? you give us rooks, brent and rich back and I've got a list of names you can choose from. it's quite long but you can have any 6 people you like off of it, I'll probs stretch to 8 at a push

in


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:06:55 PM
could we have some sort of hostage exchange? you give us rooks, brent and rich back and I've got a list of names you can choose from. it's quite long but you can have any 6 people you like off of it, I'll probs stretch to 8 at a push

in

post the list and am i on it?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:07:43 PM
could we have some sort of hostage exchange? you give us rooks, brent and rich back and I've got a list of names you can choose from. it's quite long but you can have any 6 people you like off of it, I'll probs stretch to 8 at a push

in

i thought you were banned.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 09, 2010, 09:14:11 PM
am i on it?

course not. in fact noone who's posted on this thread so far is on it

I'm awaiting confirmation from the mods and a pm with a time and place for the exchange to take place. no police or the deal's off


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 09:15:33 PM
am i on it?

course not. in fact noone who's posted on this thread so far is on it

I'm awaiting confirmation from the mods and a pm with a time and place for the exchange to take place. no police or the deal's off


ffs thought atleast i would be on it never mind i am off to bed to dream of days of not having to deal with shit


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:16:16 PM
am i on it?

course not. in fact noone who's posted on this thread so far is on it

I'm awaiting confirmation from the mods and a pm with a time and place for the exchange to take place. no police or the deal's off

boshi isnt on it??? ffs gatso add him on the bottom in pencil quickly ;-)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:17:19 PM
am i on it?

course not. in fact noone who's posted on this thread so far is on it

I'm awaiting confirmation from the mods and a pm with a time and place for the exchange to take place. no police or the deal's off


ffs thought atleast i would be on it never mind i am off to bed to dream of days of not having to deal with shit

sweet dreams iron or should i say smelly dreams  ;)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:17:28 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:19:46 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.

why change a habit of a lifetime  ;D ::)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 09:20:53 PM
rookie if you read this can you please get my msn off somebody please so i can get your weekly lays. 

ty ty


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ginger on April 09, 2010, 09:22:20 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, however, we can only act on the evidence at hand and in this case it was very black and white.

Please remember you are only hearing one side, and are not seeing all the information that is available to the mods.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:23:16 PM
It seems to me that if this was a case of mistaken identity (which at the moment I am happy to assume it wasn't and that the Mods made the right decision) then how stupid of Rookie to either leave his computer logged on or let someone know his log on details.

And how sad that so called 'friends' would post something that could be blamed on him. Bad choices all over the place imo.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
am i on it?

course not. in fact noone who's posted on this thread so far is on it

I'm awaiting confirmation from the mods and a pm with a time and place for the exchange to take place. no police or the deal's off


ffs thought atleast i would be on it never mind i am off to bed to dream of days of not having to deal with shit

Feel better Iron and get some sleep.  At least you don't have to listen to cries of "NURSE!!!!" tonight.  xx


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:25:17 PM
It seems to me that if this was a case of mistaken identity (which at the moment I am happy to assume it wasn't and that the Mods made the right decision) then how stupid of Rookie to either leave his computer logged on or let someone know his log on details.

And how sad that so called 'friends' would post something that could be blamed on him. Bad choices all over the place imo.

the banned post were on the so called "friends" log in, he didnt post on bens log in and never at anytime pretend to be ben.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 09:26:29 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, however, we can only act on the evidence at hand and in this case it was very black and white.

Please remember you are only hearing one side, and are not seeing all the information that is available to the mods.

do you change the colour on your posts everytime or is there a way to set this up so i'm automatically in blue?  I think more people should post in a unique colour, you are purple i'm blue.  still lots of colours up for grabs.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 09:28:38 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, however, we can only act on the evidence at hand and in this case it was very black and white.

Please remember you are only hearing one side, and are not seeing all the information that is available to the mods.

do you change the colour on your posts everytime or is there a way to set this up so i'm automatically in blue?  I think more people should post in a unique colour, you are purple i'm blue.  still lots of colours up for grabs.

I've dibs on maroon!!!  


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 09:28:48 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:30:50 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

Look forward to hacking your email and writing myself an email saying you owe me 100 bags.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:31:10 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:31:23 PM
It seems to me that if this was a case of mistaken identity (which at the moment I am happy to assume it wasn't and that the Mods made the right decision) then how stupid of Rookie to either leave his computer logged on or let someone know his log on details.

And how sad that so called 'friends' would post something that could be blamed on him. Bad choices all over the place imo.

the banned post were on the so called "friends" log in, he didnt post on bens log in and never at anytime pretend to be ben.

As I said - nice friends.

FTR - anyone who posts that sort of material is no friend of mine.

If anyone posts that from my ip address it will actually be me and I deserve the ban imo.

I'm not a techie geek but I assume it's not easy to disguise your ip address.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

Look forward to hacking your email and writing myself an email saying you owe me 100 bags.

I'll send a kite.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 09:33:08 PM
all this as come about because the mods have done things arse about tit imo.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, however, we can only act on the evidence at hand and in this case it was very black and white.

Please remember you are only hearing one side, and are not seeing all the information that is available to the mods.

do you change the colour on your posts everytime or is there a way to set this up so i'm automatically in blue?  I think more people should post in a unique colour, you are purple i'm blue.  still lots of colours up for grabs.

I've dibs on maroon!!!  

maroon is pretty special, good shout!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:34:38 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 09:35:15 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.



Phew.  That's me out of that one on two counts!  lol


I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more

Awwwwwww, be nice to Shieldsy.  Was silly for him to hand out his log in details, but he's a good Lad.  Anyone who gets a blotto girl home safe is ok in my book.  


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 09, 2010, 09:35:46 PM
sov's onto something here. if everyone used a different colour there'd be no mistaken identities. I'm gonna stick with black though, can everyone else please stop using it? thanks


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:35:49 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
It seems to me that if this was a case of mistaken identity (which at the moment I am happy to assume it wasn't and that the Mods made the right decision) then how stupid of Rookie to either leave his computer logged on or let someone know his log on details.

And how sad that so called 'friends' would post something that could be blamed on him. Bad choices all over the place imo.

the banned post were on the so called "friends" log in, he didnt post on bens log in and never at anytime pretend to be ben.

As I said - nice friends.

FTR - anyone who posts that sort of material is no friend of mine.

If anyone posts that from my ip address it will actually be me and I deserve the ban imo.

I'm not a techie geek but I assume it's not easy to disguise your ip address.

he is a nice friend actually one of the best and i still think your missing what im saying, he didnt post on bens account he posted on his own!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 09:37:16 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.



Phew.  That's me out of that one on two counts!  lol


I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more

Awwwwwww, be nice to Shieldsy.  Was silly for him to hand out his log in details, but he's a good Lad.  Anyone who gets a blotto girl home safe is ok in my book.  

fyp


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:38:09 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.



Phew.  That's me out of that one on two counts!  lol


I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more

Awwwwwww, be nice to Shieldsy.  Was silly for him to hand out his log in details, but he's a good Lad.  Anyone who gets a blotto girl home safe is ok in my book.  

a hotel room with shieldsy and safe shouldnt be used in the same sentence lol


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:41:39 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?

[  ] your business.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 09:44:27 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.



Phew.  That's me out of that one on two counts!  lol


I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more

Awwwwwww, be nice to Shieldsy.  Was silly for him to hand out his log in details, but he's a good Lad.  Anyone who gets a blotto girl home safe is ok in my book.  

a hotel room with shieldsy and safe shouldnt be used in the same sentence lol

I'm tellin ya!!!  Good as gold and bestest behaviour so he was.  No funny business at all.  Even sent a PM saying thanks for getting me back safe after that trip.  In fact, I didn't believe for a minute Shieldsy made those posts when I was told...and still don't.  Would be shocked if he told me otherwise.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:45:02 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?

[  ] your business.

If we are discussing ip addresses its extremely relevant.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:45:40 PM
I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.



Phew.  That's me out of that one on two counts!  lol


I am still at daggers drawn with a very famous american poker player.

He wrote some things in chat when I won a pot against him which would make your hair curl.

He now claims it was someone else playing on his account.

Even if that is true, I don't think it matters. You are responsible for what is written in your name.

are you really ?well it was written in shieldsys name so regardless who wrote it shieldsy is guilty! hang the fatman! better still ban him from every kfc in the country that'l hurt him more
m

Awwwwwww, be nice to Shieldsy.  Was silly for him to hand out his log in details, but he's a good Lad.  Anyone who gets a blotto girl home safe is ok in my book.  

a hotel room with shieldsy and safe shouldnt be used in the same sentence lol

I'm tellin ya!!!  Good as gold and bestest behaviour so he was.  No funny business at all.  Even sent a PM saying thanks for getting me back safe after that trip.  In fact, I didn't believe for a minute Shieldsy made those posts when I was told...and still don't.  Would be shocked if he told me otherwise.

but u think bens capable of them then? shieldsy the little angel  rotflmfao bless hi


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 09, 2010, 09:46:03 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?

http://dumpalink.com/videos/Below-The-Belt-Fighting-Compilation-589c.html


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:48:18 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?  ;)

http://dumpalink.com/videos/Below-The-Belt-Fighting-Compilation-589c.html
FMP


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:48:30 PM
yeah the posts in question were on shieldsys account.



And has he moved in with Ling and Rookie?  Did they have to get rid of the dog to make room for Shieldsy?

[  ] your business.

If we are discussing ip addresses its extremely relevant.

relevant whether they got rid of the dog to move shieldsy in [ ] highly relevant


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:50:01 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 09, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Oi!  Keep Cassie out of it, the lot of ya!!!   She's busy sleeping and farting by the fire as we speak.  rotflmfao


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:52:44 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:54:41 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:55:26 PM
Curious to hear the opinions on the matter of respected mods, Red Dog and Tikay....


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 09:56:17 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea. cassies now a country dog and i assume much happier with lots of fields to run in.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 09:57:24 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:58:21 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea.

to be honest when its nothing atall to do with you it is!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 09:58:49 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


YES


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 09:59:39 PM
Curious to hear the opinions on the matter of respected mods, Red Dog and Tikay....

the mods speak as one in these matters cos, its a known fact thats the way it has always been so dont hold your breath


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 10:01:36 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


YES

At the start of the thread it was said (can't be arsed to find the post) that he was banned for something he claims Shieldsy wrote on his account.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 10:02:18 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


YES

At the start of the thread it was said (can't be arsed to find the post) that he was banned for something he claims Shieldsy wrote on his account.


no something he supposedly wrote on shieldsys account


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 10:02:30 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea.

to be honest when its nothing atall to do with you it is!

if it's not to do with anyone else why post it on an open forum?  If ben asks for help rehoming cassie and then we follow the lovely rehoming story with laxie coming to the rescue how is that not a subject for discussion. I think its a lovely story that cassie is happy and well and in the country.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


no

FYP

rookie was banned for his porn post

the ban was extended due to the other posts


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 10:04:50 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea.

to be honest when its nothing atall to do with you it is!

if it's not to do with anyone else why post it on an open forum?  If ben asks for help rehoming cassie and then we follow the lovely rehoming story with laxie coming to the rescue how is that not a subject for discussion. I think its a lovely story that cassie is happy and well and in the country.

because its not relevant to this thread.

normally I think you're posting for tikay or tighty, but I doubt they'd be as silly as to mention cassie.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 10:05:17 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea.

to be honest when its nothing atall to do with you it is!

if it's not to do with anyone else why post it on an open forum?  If ben asks for help rehoming cassie and then we follow the lovely rehoming story with laxie coming to the rescue how is that not a subject for discussion. I think its a lovely story that cassie is happy and well and in the country.

so do i but to suggest they got rid of the dog to move in shieldsy is just you trying to be funny and irelevant to the thread whether it be true or not


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 10:06:03 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


no

FYP

rookie was banned for his porn post

the ban was extended due to the other posts

And were the other posts made after his account was banned?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 10:07:39 PM
Hang on a minute, has Rookie been banned for something which was written on someone elses account?


no

FYP

rookie was banned for his porn post

the ban was extended due to the other posts

And were the other posts made after his account was banned?


yes


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 10:09:33 PM
LOL Laxie - Shieldsy's the biggest nutter I've ever met. Absolutely hilarious, but no boundaries. Just cos he was a gentleman to you doesn't mean he's not capable of writing those posts. In fact I doubt there's much that guy isn't capable of! I've seen some of the stuff he's done by video to my phone - nutter!

And Ding - if we're talking purely about IP addresses why are you making personal remarks about Ben and Ling's home. Dunno if you meant it as a dig but that comment didn't seem to sit too well. With regard to that, I've used blonde in the homes of other blondes before, one of those being Rooks'.


Not sure what I've said that doesn't sit too well - Shieldsy can only post using Ben and Lings ip address if he is there surely? I'm not making a dig, its factual surely?

Turny highlighted it above.

Why did you mention the dog?

Is that a sore point? I had no idea.

to be honest when its nothing atall to do with you it is!

if it's not to do with anyone else why post it on an open forum?  If ben asks for help rehoming cassie and then we follow the lovely rehoming story with laxie coming to the rescue how is that not a subject for discussion. I think its a lovely story that cassie is happy and well and in the country.

because its not relevant to this thread.

normally I think you're posting for tikay or tighty, but I doubt they'd be as silly as to mention cassie.

Well I've never done either so you are wrong whenever you have thought that.

If I happen to have the same opinion as someone else it doesn't mean I'm posting for them! I have my own opinions which i am happy to voice.

 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 10:10:54 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 10:12:12 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

I actually think this is very fair. He should be responsible. And obv he wasn't.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 10:12:59 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

A final warning after he's been perma banned does seem a bit strange.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 10:13:52 PM
What was Shieldsy account name?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 10:14:35 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

I actually think this is very fair. He should be responsible. And obv he wasn't.

Do you even get the irony of that email to Rooks.

Say if not and I can write a post simplifying it.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: turny on April 09, 2010, 10:17:14 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

I actually think this is very fair. He should be responsible. And obv he wasn't.

lmao are you as dippy as you make out or do u just put it on?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ginger on April 09, 2010, 10:17:53 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

That, of course, isn't the full email that was sent to multiple members....



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 10:19:21 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

That, of course, isn't the full email that was sent to multiple members....



ive got it in my inbox so I can post it if you like. Those are the two most relevant things to this thread.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 10:19:38 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

dont quote me on this as i said i havent been around for a few days but the email was sent to all the particapants of the nights
so thats why it reads a little off in bens case

the mods have enough crap to put up with without writing indivual letters to people behaving like kids
after all we are all unpaid and do this because of our love for blonde
but its ok we might not be here long

1) its a thankless task and people treat us like shit i know i have though of giving up many times
2) the shareholders might sack us from our unpaid jobs with no severance pay if they feel like you that we are crap


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 09, 2010, 10:20:12 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

I actually think this is very fair. He should be responsible. And obv he wasn't.

Do you even get the irony of that email to Rooks.

Say if not and I can write a post simplifying it.

I'm not concerned about the admin issue. I still think he should have been responsible and he wasn't.
Night night all.
 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 10:24:41 PM
I didn't want to do this publically but seeing as there is so much part-informed speculation

Several accounts were initially coolered late last Thursday night after pornographic and then written inappropriate posts were made

At between 1-2am last Friday morning the account for Shieldsy became active, having been dormant since 21st August 2009. All previous posts from this account were on one specific IP address

On this account were then posted over the course of an hour around 30 posts that were way OTT. I mean, really eye opening stuff. By then the few mods that were on earlier were offline. I was travelling to Dublin and was receiving PMs as I was logged on by a mobile device that allowed me to view the forum but not to take any "mod action" such as deletions etc, but I got hold of another mod and asked him to remove and cooler. Ironically I was travelling to Dublin with Cos/GreekStein while all this was going on and he was by my side!

All the accounts remained coolered over the weekend. We had two live updates on with the majority of the mod team involved in those in one way or another. No other mods were around

On our return on Tuesday we set about establishing who had done what, what needed to happen, This took about 48 hours. Our difficulty with many of these accounts is that often as pranks and jokes people post on each others accounts. We also had an additional problem as through the weekend about 20 spoof accounts had been set up with IP matches to exisiting members accounts currently coolered.

I speak for the whole of the mods team when I say we know that the lads are good lads, like a prank and all the rest of it. However the events of Thursday 1st/Friday 2nd went way too far. Really bad stuff. If we were to do nothing because they were popular members, close to Flushy etc then we might as well have turned the lights off and walked away. We felt that strongly about it

Anyway our research showed us incontrovertible proof that the "Shieldsy" posts made after all the other accounts were banned were made from Rookie's IP address. The only people previously to have posted from this address were Rookie, Ismene and a spoof account "Fred BoylePoker"

One of only two conclusions was possible. Either someone at that IP address had access to the Shieldsy account and postsed on it or that Shieldsy himself was there at 2am on a Friday morning and posted it, presumably (though not definitively) with the knowledge of others there

This was the background to which the Rookie ban was placed and a mod email to three people was sent midweek giving them timeframes and reasons for bans. 

Subsequent to that, and following Cos beginning this thread (and I indicated my disappointment and annoyance with this to Cos tonight) Ben/Rookie and I have spoken privately and I have summarised that to the mods team

It is only fair for me to point out in the interests of balance that Rookie told me absolutely tonight that he did not make the posts on the Shieldsy account. The rest of the conversation is private.

Nevertheless a dialogue has begun, which is probably a good thing.


 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 10:25:39 PM
In the email explaining the Ban to Ben it says....

Ben. Permanent ban, specifically for the disgusting posts made on the Shieldsy account from your IP address late that night once your own account had been coolered, which you would have known were completely unacceptable.

then it says below...

Please take the following as a strict final warning: If someone posts on your account, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE! No exceptions. If you are fitted up by your mates on the forum, you are going to be assumed to have posted. The mods cannot be expected to know who is posting on which account so often, that we have no option but to enforce this.


Mods, this is the epitome of arse about tit.

I actually think this is very fair. He should be responsible. And obv he wasn't.

Do you even get the irony of that email to Rooks.

Say if not and I can write a post simplifying it.


This email was not sent to Ben alone and the warnings are addressed to others


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Longy on April 09, 2010, 10:26:35 PM
What was Shieldsy account name?

I will give you 3 guesses, I have feeling you will get it right within 1.

I am glad to see this thread has sorted things out, I'm sure am not more confused now than when it started.



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 10:29:17 PM

Anyway our research showed us incontrovertible proof that the "Shieldsy" posts made after all the other accounts were banned were made from Rookie's IP address. The only people previously to have posted from this address were Rookie, Ismene and a spoof account "Fred BoylePoker"

 

I have definitely posted from my blonde account using Rookie's IP address. Why have I not come up?

Pretty sure others have too.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 10:32:32 PM

Anyway our research showed us incontrovertible proof that the "Shieldsy" posts made after all the other accounts were banned were made from Rookie's IP address. The only people previously to have posted from this address were Rookie, Ismene and a spoof account "Fred BoylePoker"

 

I have definitely posted from my blonde account using Rookie's IP address. Why have I not come up?

Pretty sure others have too.

Pretty sure admin can explain better than I can. Needless to say I can't reproduce screen-shots of the forensics on here

What I am trying to do Cos, is show you (and we talked in detail about these sorts of things In Ireland) that there was a consistency to our approach, that the decisions were logical and made with the best interests of the forum in mind

Does this mean we are happy with what has happened? far from it. The mods team was put in an awful spot

Is there a way back? dunno, but we're all ears from those concerned


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 10:35:05 PM

Anyway our research showed us incontrovertible proof that the "Shieldsy" posts made after all the other accounts were banned were made from Rookie's IP address. The only people previously to have posted from this address were Rookie, Ismene and a spoof account "Fred BoylePoker"

 

I have definitely posted from my blonde account using Rookie's IP address. Why have I not come up?

Pretty sure others have too.

because most IPs are not permant most ISP will release them every few days or weeks
so a person might have the same IP for a month then get a new one a few months later
or the rebooting of a router will often change an ip assigned to a certain line

infact many reasons which make it hard to keep an eye on people

but in this case it would of needed a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+ to 1 shot for rookie to release his IP shieldsy to have been given it within 2 hours then rookie to have it back less than an hour later


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
because, we also have evidence that in the 48 hours subsequent to the bans both the Rookie and Shieldsy accounts tried to access the forum but from their own IP addresses, not the same IP address


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 09, 2010, 10:40:26 PM
Mr Plum, in the Library with the dagger.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 10:42:48 PM
cos for mod imo


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 09, 2010, 10:43:40 PM
cos for mod imo


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 09, 2010, 10:45:10 PM
because most IPs are not permant
infact many reasons which make it hard to keep an eye on people

Well I wont be posting from work anymore then!!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: AndrewT on April 09, 2010, 11:01:16 PM
One of only two conclusions was possible. Either someone at that IP address had access to the Shieldsy account and postsed on it or that Shieldsy himself was there at 2am on a Friday morning and posted it, presumably (though not definitively) with the knowledge of others there

If I were Shieldsy I'd be really annoyed that you hadn't even considered the possibility I was round the house having a clandestine affair with Ling.

Or Rookie.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Acidmouse on April 09, 2010, 11:03:58 PM
what type of fukwit posts nasty porn on a family forum? i assume shieldsy thinks its funny? pissed or not no excuse.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 11:08:15 PM
a few people make a 'for mod' post.

I knew Acidmouse would be straight in after that.

Not that posting porn is acceptable, but I wouldn't really describe this as a family forum. Pretty much all adults, and Hopkin.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 11:11:14 PM


Not that posting porn is acceptable, but I wouldn't really describe this as a family forum. Pretty much all adults, and Hopkin.


but you know that family members of many ages often view the forum, and so do the lads. They know it was out of order, and so do you.

Sometimes I'm not completely comfortable with a poker forum being described as "family" but this one is pretty close to it with its sense of community, I think


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Acidmouse on April 09, 2010, 11:12:39 PM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 11:14:49 PM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.

LOL.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Acidmouse on April 09, 2010, 11:15:14 PM
Its real funny...keep laughing.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 09, 2010, 11:15:36 PM


Not that posting porn is acceptable, but I wouldn't really describe this as a family forum. Pretty much all adults, and Hopkin.


but you know that family members of many ages often view the forum, and so do the lads. They know it was out of order, and so do you.

Sometimes I'm not completely comfortable with a poker forum being described as "family" but this one is pretty close to it with its sense of community, I think

Pretty sure we dont need to discuss whether we can post porn on here.

If we could, it would have its own board, and the hole forum would be busier.  ;)

We all know what happens if we do, Prewdie comes round with a letter for our parents.

Damn Skippy

Your friendly neutral Switzerland Hopkin


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
Its real funny...keep laughing.

So are you.

The invention of the new born baby on your lap whilst you're browsing blonde in the middle of the night story genuinely made me laugh out loud.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 11:18:05 PM
Please drop it, lads.

I mean you want to ruck on here, now?

Sigh



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 11:19:47 PM
Also, if Acid got his facts right, it was blonde member creepy_benji who posted the shitting on a screen. He currently is without ban.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 11:21:11 PM
Also, if Acid got his facts right, it was blonde member creepy_benji who posted the shitting on a screen. He currently is without ban.

thank you for the assistance, as one of his friends pointed that out to us mods earlier tonight, helpfully

I thankfully missed that one at the time


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Acidmouse on April 09, 2010, 11:21:34 PM
Also, if Acid got his facts right, it was blonde member creepy_benji who posted the shitting on a screen. He currently is without ban.

ban!

If it was not rookie he shudn't be banned, simple.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 09, 2010, 11:21:36 PM
you need one of these 2nite Tighty .. gl 2 ya


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: AlexMartin on April 09, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
cliffnotes? was this why i couldnt readup on the IO for 15 mins in the live update?



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: outragous76 on April 09, 2010, 11:28:57 PM
you need one of these 2nite Tighty .. gl 2 ya

on form tonight mo!

i love this thread

if its shieldsy - let him man up and confess - if not - ban hammer



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 11:32:08 PM
is it me or are these threads the most interesting ones on blonde these days?  not flaming so no cooler please, genuinely enjoy seeing everybody giving different opinions.  on most threads its all patting on backs etc

nice to see people actually nail there colours to the mast.  I'm going for blue.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 09, 2010, 11:34:07 PM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.

is this true?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 09, 2010, 11:39:54 PM
you need one of these 2nite Tighty .. gl 2 ya

on form tonight mo!

i love this thread

if its shieldsy - let him man up and confess - if not - ban hammer



I don't believe he has been contacted regarding his account as yet.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 11:45:13 PM
No, and I doubt we'd intend to either

If people want their posting privileges restored they can contact us. Many have in the past, some successfully

I don't think we'll be diarising a group email to him about it. The whole episode has taken countless man hours to deal with, and I don't suppose we're in a rush to add to that

and why has it taken countless man hours? because incomprehensively people with thousands of posts decided to post porn, then offensive messages, then a load of duplicate accounts and for what?

Frankly, we'll deal with any requests when we are ready, not when they are. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 09, 2010, 11:46:21 PM
p.s goodnight xx



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 11:47:17 PM
p.s goodnight xx



is it?


well its a goodnight from me too


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Josedinho on April 09, 2010, 11:49:49 PM
That was a long read.

Where do we go for out football tips this weekend?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 09, 2010, 11:50:39 PM
That was a long read.

Where do we go for out football tips this weekend?

sheffield


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Longy on April 09, 2010, 11:53:50 PM
That was a long read.

Where do we go for out football tips this weekend?

Scottish Dave has been banned as well?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: ripple11 on April 10, 2010, 12:27:32 AM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.

is this true?

lol....do it all the time,....otherwise with twins I'd hardly read blonde! :D


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 10, 2010, 12:33:59 AM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.

is this true?

lol....do it all the time,....otherwise with twins I'd hardly read blonde! :D

I used to play SNG's trying to get Jake to sleep all the time.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2010, 12:49:36 AM
How come I miss all of the good stuff on this forum ?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 10, 2010, 12:53:30 AM
How come I miss all of the good stuff on this forum ?

Blatant 'it was me and I got away with it' post imo


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dewi_cool on April 10, 2010, 12:56:16 AM
Yo. can yo all grow up down the way.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2010, 01:00:42 AM
How come I miss all of the good stuff on this forum ?

Blatant 'it was me and I got away with it' post imo

LOL Rumbled


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 10, 2010, 01:08:44 AM
How come I miss all of the good stuff on this forum ?

Blatant 'it was me and I got away with it' post imo

LOL Rumbled

You would have got away with it if it wasnt for those pesky kidz


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: NigDawG on April 10, 2010, 01:17:18 AM
Wow spent 2 days away from the Internet and feel as though I've missed out


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ismene on April 10, 2010, 01:19:32 AM
Ironside, I've pm'd you - can you look into it for me?

Many thanks

Aisling


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Linux on April 10, 2010, 02:02:26 AM
sovietsong for mod

acidmouse ban

rooks to be free


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 10, 2010, 02:12:57 AM
I retract everything I said about Shieldsy.  If what I've just been told is true, he deserves whatever ye throw at him...and more.  Oh, and thanks Lads for letting me in on the joke...finally. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 10, 2010, 08:49:07 AM
sovietsong for mod

acidmouse ban

rooks to be free

you make a good point, me and cos could job share!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: kinboshi on April 10, 2010, 10:11:18 AM

Pretty sure we dont need to discuss whether we can post porn on here.

If we could, it would have its own board, and the hole forum would be busier.

If that had been intentional, it would have been genius. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: sovietsong on April 10, 2010, 11:23:54 AM
bring back bolt forget about rookie


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 10, 2010, 12:24:39 PM

Pretty sure we dont need to discuss whether we can post porn on here.

If we could, it would have its own board, and the hole forum would be busier.

If that had been intentional, it would have been genius. 

Sigh, one of my best, but your right, not intentional.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Scottish Dave on April 10, 2010, 01:09:06 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

its a life ban laxie how does that blow over? how is that working together? ben hsnt even been asked to explain himself or give his side

I was given a Life Ban too a while back, but   :hello:


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 10, 2010, 01:13:52 PM
I've been quietly thinking it'd blow over, the Lads will be back and that's the end of it, but it takes everyone working together for that to happen.  Would be nice if everyone just gave it a chance to blow over and let the peeps involved get it sorted in time.  Dragging it on only keeps it raw for both sides and sorting it takes more time.  

That's just my 2 cents, but what do I know?

its a life ban laxie how does that blow over? how is that working together? ben hsnt even been asked to explain himself or give his side

I was given a Life Ban too a while back, but   :hello:

Lucky you, but I'm pretty ok with this lot rotting now. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 10, 2010, 01:21:39 PM
I reckon it was Tikay wot dunnit.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: littlemissC on April 10, 2010, 03:24:05 PM
How come I miss all of the good stuff on this forum ?
this



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: MANTIS01 on April 10, 2010, 06:18:11 PM
Weren't some of you jokers wondering why Tikay isn't falling over himself to post on Blonde much anymore. Tadaaa.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 10, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
Ii met Tony today. He looks bloody great. At least 80 yrs younger. More than I can say 4 me on my exit hand. I could smack mysen silly. Bu bk to Tony. He is doing great and looks it too. Loving his life to te max atm.  Good luck him. Xx


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 10, 2010, 06:54:25 PM
Excuse spelling mistakes trying to type on g1 with false nails whilst pass doing speeds up m1


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 10, 2010, 06:55:20 PM
Weren't some of you jokers wondering why Tikay isn't falling over himself to post on Blonde much anymore. Tadaaa.

he's been banned for posting porn on shieldsy's a/c whilst pretending to be rooks? surely that means rookie's innocent


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 10, 2010, 08:13:35 PM
(handshake)

What does this mean?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 10, 2010, 09:18:05 PM
As I said - nice friends.

FTR - anyone who posts that sort of material is no friend of mine.


Tracey, I thought you liked people who were full of shit.  ;D

Damn Rooks runs bad. Shieldsys doesn't use his account for months and then just happens to use it that night from his IP address to post inappropriate posts just several hours after Rooks has been temp banned. ;carlocitrone; We can speculate what happened but I suspect the mods generally act in the best interests of the forum and not in it just for the money and glory.

I can kind of see why the mods have made the decision they have.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: vegaslover on April 10, 2010, 11:10:32 PM
I read a few of the posts, it was warped shit. Sheildys may be sound but hes a fuker for posting on here. It has all sorts reading the forums not just adults.

As for mod post, stop coming out with the same shit.  I was and I am angry coz i had my baby who woke up that night and I was settling her on my lap browsing blonde..i am glad she is too young to realise what someone shitting on the screen looks like, so yeah i am fuked off.

is this true?

lol....do it all the time,....otherwise with twins I'd hardly read blonde! :D

I used to play SNG's trying to get Jake to sleep all the time.
This. Have had many a night where my little un has woken up while I been playing poker so had him sit with me whilst playing


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Laxie on April 11, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
GG blonde forum then. Bye.

Mind the door. 


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: suzanne on April 11, 2010, 03:57:58 AM
bring back bolt forget about rookie

Is Bolt banned?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: kinboshi on April 11, 2010, 08:18:29 AM
bring back bolt forget about rookie

Is Bolt banned?


Yes.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dingdell on April 11, 2010, 11:01:04 AM
GG blonde forum then. Bye.

Mind the door. 

Lol!


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 11, 2010, 11:05:53 AM
lol


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: GreekStein on April 11, 2010, 01:05:13 PM
GG blonde forum then. Bye.

Norr don't leave James.

We need your PHA genius


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 11, 2010, 01:29:07 PM

This isnt even funny.
Hopefully James was only joking in the first place, but I hope your responses dont push him not to post.
His posts are some of the most valuable on PHA.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 11, 2010, 01:31:03 PM
Sorry, I was under the impression he was someone else, My sincere apologise if I am wrong.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: action man on April 11, 2010, 01:36:19 PM
Can people just grow up please. People in their twenties acting like 13 year olds. That includes rooks, rich and brent. Everyone pandering to them like spoilt little brats.
I just wish more people were like they are IRL on forums. When did it become funny to post porn on a poker forum anyway?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thetank on April 11, 2010, 01:39:52 PM
GG blonde forum then. Bye.

Norr don't leave James.

We need your PHA genius

+1 Good PHA contributer is skolsuper


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thetank on April 11, 2010, 01:44:51 PM
I can't see how the mods could not issue bans given what happened.

Sucks because they are all valuable contributors, they will be back at some point hopefully.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 11, 2010, 01:52:35 PM
Agree with your last two posts Mr tank

I think hope Mr Skolsuper was indulging in dry humour.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Linux on April 11, 2010, 03:54:42 PM
Can people just grow up please. People in their twenties acting like 13 year olds. That includes rooks, rich and brent. Everyone pandering to them like spoilt little brats.
I just wish more people were like they are IRL on forums. When did it become funny to post porn on a poker forum anyway?

Rich, BH and rooks are pretty much the same on the forum as they are in real life, what you on about


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: EvilPie on April 11, 2010, 04:03:57 PM

This isnt even funny.
Hopefully James was only joking in the first place, but I hope your responses dont push him not to post.
His posts are some of the most valuable on PHA.

It is funny.

Well I laughed anyway.

Hopefully James was joking as you say. Don't you think there's a possibility Dawn was joking as well?

Who knows?

This may have been light hearted banter by both of them and it may actually be your comment that pushes him not to post as he nows thinks it was serious.

If both of them were joking then it's very funny so I'll choose that option tyvm.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: AlexMartin on April 11, 2010, 06:02:58 PM

This isnt even funny.
Hopefully James was only joking in the first place, but I hope your responses dont push him not to post.
His posts are some of the most valuable on PHA.


world class level




Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 11, 2010, 06:45:50 PM

This isnt even funny.
Hopefully James was only joking in the first place, but I hope your responses dont push him not to post.
His posts are some of the most valuable on PHA.

It is funny.

Well I laughed anyway.

Hopefully James was joking as you say. Don't you think there's a possibility Dawn was joking as well?

Who knows?

This may have been light hearted banter by both of them and it may actually be your comment that pushes him not to post as he nows thinks it was serious.

If both of them were joking then it's very funny so I'll choose that option tyvm.


I think we all know better than this.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The_nun on April 11, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
rohypnol maybe,


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: EvilPie on April 11, 2010, 08:24:37 PM

This isnt even funny.
Hopefully James was only joking in the first place, but I hope your responses dont push him not to post.
His posts are some of the most valuable on PHA.

It is funny.

Well I laughed anyway.

Hopefully James was joking as you say. Don't you think there's a possibility Dawn was joking as well?

Who knows?

This may have been light hearted banter by both of them and it may actually be your comment that pushes him not to post as he nows thinks it was serious.

If both of them were joking then it's very funny so I'll choose that option tyvm.


I think we all know better than this.

But if James was serious and so was Dawn then it's even funnier.

Either way we can't lose. It's just a funny comment.

I only wish I'd have got there first.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 12, 2010, 03:15:14 AM
Well that caused a stir! :D

The huffy melodrama was tongue in cheek but I did want to make the point that I think this forum is overmoderated a touch. Obv remove the posts and hand out coolers+warnings but lifetime bans for a good portion your most prolific and interesting posters seems a bit heavy handed to me. With bolt and 3/4 of the shrewdies gone hopkin's gonna have to pick up a lot of slack to keep things interesting and I'm just not sure if he's up to it tbh.

Then again one might use the same argument for not banning that clearly unhinged mentalist bigusdikus that they keep around on awop. Has anyone read his blog ever? It's the sort of stuff that gets mentioned in news stories that end with "and then he turned the gun on himself".

forum is undermderated compared to what it was

we have given alot of slack in the past and alot of warnings

these are not the first bans some of these guys have recieved

others have had life bans for alot less

infact most people that post porn on the forum get banned within seconds

the forum has gone so soft recently i am in 2 minds if i want to spend my time moderating it

espically as i have no idea on the thoughts of the MAJOR shareholder

if he wants the site to move in a different direction after all the posters banned are all close friends of his

and some in his stable then all he needs to is send me a PM asking me to step down

i wont miss the hassle and the rate of pay will remain the same

ps i am not ammused at people who know better playing lets wind up the mods and make there lifes a misery

on the night in question i WAS in the pub having some fun get a call to sort out the crap

but even when i come back in from the pub you dont catch me posting porn on the forum for fun or flips


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: The Camel on April 12, 2010, 03:23:24 AM
Well that caused a stir! :D

The huffy melodrama was tongue in cheek but I did want to make the point that I think this forum is overmoderated a touch. Obv remove the posts and hand out coolers+warnings but lifetime bans for a good portion your most prolific and interesting posters seems a bit heavy handed to me. With bolt and 3/4 of the shrewdies gone hopkin's gonna have to pick up a lot of slack to keep things interesting and I'm just not sure if he's up to it tbh.

Then again one might use the same argument for not banning that clearly unhinged mentalist bigusdikus that they keep around on awop. Has anyone read his blog ever? It's the sort of stuff that gets mentioned in news stories that end with "and then he turned the gun on himself".

forum is undermderated compared to what it was

we have given alot of slack in the past and alot of warnings

these are not the first bans some of these guys have recieved

others have had life bans for alot less

infact most people that post porn on the forum get banned within seconds

the forum has gone so soft recently i am in 2 minds if i want to spend my time moderating it

espically as i have no idea on the thoughts of the MAJOR shareholder

if he wants the site to move in a different direction after all the posters banned are all close friends of his

and some in his stable then all he needs to is send me a PM asking me to step down

i wont miss the hassle and the rate of pay will remain the same

ps i am not ammused at people who know better playing lets wind up the mods and make there lifes a misery

on the night in question i WAS in the pub having some fun get a call to sort out the crap

but even when i come back in from the pub you dont catch me posting porn on the forum for fun or flips

Iron, you do a great job with everything (except your spelling).

Don't go!



Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: brummieboy on April 12, 2010, 09:16:59 AM
Well that caused a stir! :D

The huffy melodrama was tongue in cheek but I did want to make the point that I think this forum is overmoderated a touch. Obv remove the posts and hand out coolers+warnings but lifetime bans for a good portion your most prolific and interesting posters seems a bit heavy handed to me. With bolt and 3/4 of the shrewdies gone hopkin's gonna have to pick up a lot of slack to keep things interesting and I'm just not sure if he's up to it tbh.

Then again one might use the same argument for not banning that clearly unhinged mentalist bigusdikus that they keep around on awop. Has anyone read his blog ever? It's the sort of stuff that gets mentioned in news stories that end with "and then he turned the gun on himself".

forum is undermderated compared to what it was

we have given alot of slack in the past and alot of warnings

these are not the first bans some of these guys have recieved

others have had life bans for alot less

infact most people that post porn on the forum get banned within seconds

the forum has gone so soft recently i am in 2 minds if i want to spend my time moderating it

espically as i have no idea on the thoughts of the MAJOR shareholder

if he wants the site to move in a different direction after all the posters banned are all close friends of his

and some in his stable then all he needs to is send me a PM asking me to step down

i wont miss the hassle and the rate of pay will remain the same

ps i am not ammused at people who know better playing lets wind up the mods and make there lifes a misery

on the night in question i WAS in the pub having some fun get a call to sort out the crap

but even when i come back in from the pub you dont catch me posting porn on the forum for fun or flips

Thats cause your too tired from writhing with all those lap-dancers...


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: brummieboy on April 12, 2010, 09:17:55 AM
bring back bolt forget about rookie

Is Bolt banned?


What was Bolt banned for?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ginger on April 12, 2010, 09:20:05 AM
bring back bolt forget about rookie

Is Bolt banned?


What was Bolt banned for?

Repeated threats and abuse to a moderator.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: railtard1 on April 12, 2010, 12:00:42 PM
ban greekstein IMO


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: byronkincaid on April 12, 2010, 12:09:30 PM
what upset nun so much that she has left blonde?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 12, 2010, 12:18:58 PM
what upset nun so much that she has left blonde?

and where's her thread gone? this whole thing keeps getting stranger


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2010, 12:22:33 PM
what upset nun so much that she has left blonde?

and where's her thread gone? this whole thing keeps getting stranger

The mods removed that thread, not because of what Maureen posted but what was subsequently being posted

It's complicated and tricky, not really sure what to say to be honest, and I don't like being cryptic but I don't have any choice.

hopefully one of us will speak to Maureen tonight, as obviously she's a long standing member and friend to many of us.

 It's not a problem with blonde (the site) per se.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: taximan007 on April 12, 2010, 12:39:21 PM
Maureen's left? obviously missed something again  :(


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 12, 2010, 12:42:36 PM
what upset nun so much that she has left blonde?

and where's her thread gone? this whole thing keeps getting stranger

The mods removed that thread, not because of what Maureen posted but what was subsequently being posted

It's complicated and tricky, not really sure what to say to be honest, and I don't like being cryptic but I don't have any choice.

hopefully one of us will speak to Maureen tonight, as obviously she's a long standing member and friend to many of us.

 It's not a problem with blonde (the site) per se.


meh, cryptic sucks. come back mo


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: ACE2M on April 12, 2010, 03:30:15 PM
(handshake)

what does that mean?

I hope maureens not gone, shes og.

All sounds a bit twatty to me lads, you know a lot of the people on this forum and should be able to figure out that they would be offended by grim material.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 12, 2010, 04:28:32 PM
hopkin's gonna have to pick up a lot of slack to keep things interesting

Banned within a month imo


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ironside on April 12, 2010, 04:38:23 PM
hopkin's gonna have to pick up a lot of slack to keep things interesting

Banned within a week imo
fyp


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 12, 2010, 04:41:14 PM
(handshake)

Type it into skype chat and it comes up with a little handshake smiley, we do it as a rub when someone busts deep in a tournament, so obv here i am giving the oracle the rub for being barred.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Royal Flush on April 12, 2010, 04:43:23 PM
Iron if you would like the opinion of the largest shareholder i suggest you PM him, as it is i try to leave you mods and tikay to deal with the forum.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Sighmuns on April 12, 2010, 05:12:12 PM
As most of the posters on this thread are more invested friendship-wise than I am one way or the other, I thought i'd throw in my hopefully neutral opinion.

Some of the people mentioned that have been banned are interesting posters and generally liked in the community if i'm not mistaken. They are big parts of the community, and thus represent the community to an extent.

There's nothing funny at all about posting porn on Blonde, no matter how drunk you are as far as I'm concerned. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, if these were not regular posters on blonde, a ban would be a non-question.

Obviously there's controversy over who made the posts, but debate on that point can surely only go so far. That's for the moderators/banned members to sort out.

It seems to me that the angry posters near the front were caught on the term "Life Ban", a term which suggests blanket-damning of those concerned with no debate, something that would indeed seem unfair considering that those accused deny the 'charges'.  The angry early-posters have been part of this forum far longer than I have, and I've already heard of 'Life Bans' being overturned, of course they'll be dialogue over it.

How the mods could have acted very differently I find it hard to see. This is the first forum i've really followed, but these people seem to put up with a lot considering they're not paid.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dubai on April 12, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
Surely u just use an ip changer or dongle and open new account and no-one ever knows if are u banned for life?

I mean its hardly a big thing gettign banned from a poker forum!!!!!!!! Not exactly a life changing moment


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 12, 2010, 05:23:43 PM
Surely u just use an ip changer or dongle and open new account and no-one ever knows if are u banned for life?

I mean its hardly a big thing gettign banned from a poker forum!!!!!!!! Not exactly a life changing moment

For some it appears it is.  ::)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dubai on April 12, 2010, 05:25:42 PM
Sorry to derail- finally got around to buying the book in ur name? Any good if u read it?


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 12, 2010, 05:29:33 PM
Sorry to derail- finally got around to buying the book in ur name? Any good if u read it?

The first 100 or so pages are a tad slow and it can be difficult to get you head round why he decides on using the concept of "dicelife" especially the way it is introduced. Luke Rhinehart's next book "the search for the diceman" was a better read.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: ACE2M on April 12, 2010, 05:34:22 PM
Sorry to derail- finally got around to buying the book in ur name? Any good if u read it?

The first 100 or so pages are a tad slow and it can be difficult to get you head round why he decides on using the concept of "dicelife" especially the way it is introduced. Luke Rhinehart's next book "the search for the diceman" was a better read.

the concept was a bit better than the result. still an interesting read though.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Dubai on April 12, 2010, 05:37:34 PM
Cheers will give it a go anyway


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: gatso on April 12, 2010, 05:39:11 PM
the concept was a bit better than the result

yeah, to some extent I wished I hadn't read it as the concept was def better than the delivery


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 12, 2010, 05:41:42 PM
I first heard of "difelife" from a documentary presented by Luke Rhinehart. The documentary >>>>> than the book.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 12, 2010, 05:45:38 PM
As most of the posters on this thread are more invested friendship-wise than I am one way or the other, I thought i'd throw in my hopefully neutral opinion.

Some of the people mentioned that have been banned are interesting posters and generally liked in the community if i'm not mistaken. They are big parts of the community, and thus represent the community to an extent.

There's nothing funny at all about posting porn on Blonde, no matter how drunk you are as far as I'm concerned. As was mentioned earlier in the thread, if these were not regular posters on blonde, a ban would be a non-question.

Obviously there's controversy over who made the posts, but debate on that point can surely only go so far. That's for the moderators/banned members to sort out.

It seems to me that the angry posters near the front were caught on the term "Life Ban", a term which suggests blanket-damning of those concerned with no debate, something that would indeed seem unfair considering that those accused deny the 'charges'.  The angry early-posters have been part of this forum far longer than I have, and I've already heard of 'Life Bans' being overturned, of course they'll be dialogue over it.

How the mods could have acted very differently I find it hard to see. This is the first forum i've really followed, but these people seem to put up with a lot considering they're not paid.

To get the thread back on subject  :goodpost: ;iagree;

However recent developments have added a whole new dimension to this and hope blonde can recover. Personally a few more life bans need to be given out or blonde may be creating an unhealthy precendent.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Longy on April 12, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
This is all probably a bit too late as the horse has already bolted. Over the last year or so, there has been an ever increasing us and them situation on here. I think part of the problem is the mods don't properly represent the full scope of regular members on here anymore. A lot of the regular posters on here are 20-something male internet poker players, certainly a bigger proportion than in the past. Yet the youngest member of the mod team is well into their thirties if not older (correct me if I am wrong), there is very little representation for a significant % of the posters. I think this is a particular problem as the younger members certainly have a different way of looking at the boundaries of what of good taste/ a joke is and what isn't.

The mods have particularly thankless job imo especially as blonde have quite an open policy compared to just about every other forums I have been part of. Tikay always wanted to be quite open about certain stuff on forum in the early days, this has led to a situation where a lot of decisions are questioned and debated on forum. When maybe in some cases attempting to have an open discussion but then saying it is the mods decision is just counter productive.





Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: nirvana on April 12, 2010, 06:13:38 PM
They are big prats of the community, and thus represent the community to an extent.

Thought this was a bit harsh Greg since you don't know them too well and also tarring us all with the same brush (to some extent) tsk tsk !


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: thediceman on April 12, 2010, 06:17:48 PM
They are big prats of the community, and thus represent the community to an extent.

Thought this was a bit harsh Greg since you don't know them too well and also tarring us all with the same brush (to some extent) tsk tsk !

I think he is being VERY generous considering recent developments.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Ismene on April 12, 2010, 06:20:34 PM
I've been asked to make this post and to point out a couple of facts:

Rooks did not start this thread nor did he ask Cos to; In fact Rooks was happy to take the punishment for what he had done.

There was no contention on the punishment for the Olsen twin pics etc only on the fact that he was blamed for posting inappropriate remarks using the "Shieldsy" account.

Much has been made by some of the facts - and by that i do not mean the mods - I refer directly to diceman who clearly believes from his recent posts that he knows more than those involved. I also call into question the logic that links recent events and Rook's ban - to be quite frank you seem to talk a lot of tosh on matters you are not privy to. I did try to advise you of this personally - and yet you continue in your public efforts.

The fact is - that plenty of posts on this thread state certain things as "facts" which are actually incorrect -For example - the "faeces" photo. If in doubt ask the mods to confirm that Rooks was not responsible for it: I'm sure if asked they will and yet he is the one being blamed publicly for said material.

Furthermore, Rooks was happy to serve his time for admittedly a stupid high jinx moment, however - how many of you would serve a punishment for something you didn't do without appealing the decision?

Rooks appreciates the efforts of the moderating team - especially those who are reviewing the evidence. In all honesty he'd prefer this thread died a death as whilst the rumblings and conspiracies continue, it detracts from the truth.


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: Sighmuns on April 12, 2010, 06:24:59 PM
They are big prats of the community, and thus represent the community to an extent.

Thought this was a bit harsh Greg since you don't know them too well and also tarring us all with the same brush (to some extent) tsk tsk !

I think he is being VERY generous considering recent developments.

LOL. gw sir. ;)


Title: Re: What is happening here?!
Post by: TightEnd on April 12, 2010, 08:38:12 PM
I am locking the thread having deleted the last two pages of it

Leaving aside the issue of the recent bans, which has been discussed a lot on the thread matters moved on to slanging matches about a difficult issue that emerged briefly on the forum today.

The mods are in a no win position on this one, well at least until their collective brainpower whirrs into action, and for the time being would rather things got sorted out off-forum between those invloved, it not actually being a blonde Poker matter per se. This view might change, don't know yet


Happy to answer any questions privately, but for the time being things need to cool off please