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Title: River decision Post by: pleno1 on April 18, 2010, 07:01:44 AM Guy is really tricky, I basically raised every hand for last few orbits. He's 3bet me once and been commited to call a shortie shove and he had A10o.He's playing 35/12/7. He has c/r the river and not shown down before and has c/r me on a q72 flop. If bet how much?
PokerStars Game #42826994404: Tournament #261214266, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (500/1000) - 2010/04/18 6:45:44 WET [2010/04/18 1:45:44 ET] Table '261214266 17' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: oreo4461 (14792 in chips) Seat 2: tiltforhire (38052 in chips) Seat 3: Peroni789 (48186 in chips) Seat 4: flopped6810 (20714 in chips) Seat 5: packersfa796 (16296 in chips) Seat 6: taximen120 (67205 in chips) Seat 8: Jake Edward (15682 in chips) Seat 9: pleno1 (129500 in chips) oreo4461: posts the ante 200 tiltforhire: posts the ante 200 Peroni789: posts the ante 200 flopped6810: posts the ante 200 packersfa796: posts the ante 200 taximen120: posts the ante 200 Jake Edward: posts the ante 200 pleno1: posts the ante 200 tiltforhire: posts small blind 500 Peroni789: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to pleno1 [Kh Kd] flopped6810: folds packersfa796: folds taximen120: folds Jake Edward: folds pleno1: raises 1999 to 2999 oreo4461: folds tiltforhire: folds Peroni789: calls 1999 *** FLOP *** [3s Qc 9s] Peroni789: checks pleno1: bets 4425 Peroni789: calls 4425 *** TURN *** [3s Qc 9s] [9c] Peroni789: bets 6000 pleno1: calls 6000 *** RIVER *** [3s Qc 9s 9c] [5h] Peroni789: checks pleno1: ? Title: Re: River decision Post by: MANTIS01 on April 18, 2010, 11:17:46 AM I would bet 12k
Title: Re: River decision Post by: outragous76 on April 18, 2010, 12:05:45 PM I would bet 12k mantis posting first, and not waiting to consider all other posts............................. whats going on ;) Title: Re: River decision Post by: railtard1 on April 18, 2010, 12:06:16 PM tbh, with the pot at like 28k ish, and him having like ~35k back... i think this is a good (probably perfect) spot to shove.
His missed draws are folding even if you bet 1k yet all his Qx are probably hero'ing. Title: Re: River decision Post by: paulhouk03 on April 18, 2010, 12:44:44 PM raise turn?
i think he is italian from my experience they are tez Title: Re: River decision Post by: Cf on April 18, 2010, 12:52:22 PM raise turn? i think he is italian from my experience they are tez he bet the turn when checked to I'd bet about 15k on the end. If he shoves I'm not folding. Title: Re: River decision Post by: paulhouk03 on April 18, 2010, 04:57:42 PM raise turn? i think he is italian from my experience they are tez he bet the turn when checked to I'd bet about 15k on the end. If he shoves I'm not folding. he called the turn Title: Re: River decision Post by: Girgy85 on April 18, 2010, 06:39:12 PM raise turn? i think he is italian from my experience they are tez he bet the turn when checked to I'd bet about 15k on the end. If he shoves I'm not folding. he called the turn Nana is wrong! Title: Re: River decision Post by: paulhouk03 on April 18, 2010, 06:51:22 PM raise turn? i think he is italian from my experience they are tez he bet the turn when checked to I'd bet about 15k on the end. If he shoves I'm not folding. he called the turn Nana is wrong! i know i was shocked too Title: Re: River decision Post by: George2Loose on April 18, 2010, 10:08:07 PM deffo shove. Count to 16 first tho
Title: Re: River decision Post by: AlexMartin on April 19, 2010, 12:13:06 AM if hes tricky i think its close between induce and jam, prolly erring on side of jam.
Title: Re: River decision Post by: pleno1 on April 19, 2010, 12:26:36 AM missed out something thats probs really important. He timebanked for about 25 seconds before making his decision. He was 1 tabling fwiw. Does this skew his range to complte air/nuts?
Title: Re: River decision Post by: MANTIS01 on April 19, 2010, 12:34:00 AM Jam is respectable option. Reason I favour induce is cos hero has raised every hand last few orbits so appears super loose and villain has already forced an oppo to fold by c-r river in an earlier hand. We possibly get calls from more than just Q-x as well if we v-bet. The bit of value we lose from specifically Q-x (if indeed Q-x does call a jam) can be recouped by making our v-bet bluffs cheaper and more credible having shown down this hand.
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