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Title: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: TightEnd on April 19, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
3 handed

Payouts as follows



£3500

£2000

£1250

There is a £1000 GUKPT seat to the winner too

All three chip stacks are 500,000

blinds are 8000/16000/1000 on a 45 minute clock, mid level

Button, the tightest player of the three but unlikely to make many mistakes. Folds

Small blind raises to 42000 with  Kd Td

Big blind, long time chip leader with a very LAGgy game, constantly pressuring and never backing down, shoves for 500,000

As the Small blind you do what?




Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 19, 2010, 01:50:12 PM
I do a flat fold


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: the rage on April 19, 2010, 01:54:08 PM
I would fold. Wait for a better spot against the LAG.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: outragous76 on April 19, 2010, 02:02:27 PM
fold


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: Ironside on April 19, 2010, 02:04:03 PM
raise less, fold, wait for better spot


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: BAM on April 19, 2010, 02:10:06 PM
Call all day long


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: EvilPie on April 19, 2010, 02:13:41 PM
Don't raise against this particular description of player unless you intend to call a shove.

Hence given the action do what BAM says.

If you don't fancy getting it in with KTs don't raise in the first place. You're gifting him chips.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: TightEnd on April 19, 2010, 02:20:56 PM
Call all day long


this is why I put the thread up


The player insta-called which I was amazed about, on commentary. Brian then posted that it wasn't unusual and it was a call...and he does so here to


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: BAM on April 19, 2010, 02:22:12 PM
Don't raise against this particular description of player unless you intend to call a shove.

Hence given the action do what BAM says.

If you don't fancy getting it in with KTs don't raise in the first place. You're gifting him chips.

You're my hero bigman

A terrible shove for all his chips and I would be thinking before I raise to call any reraise but a shove that deep means 'please dont call' because if he had a biggy he would have put in a normal raise with 500k behind, so easy call for me.

....oh and its soooted!


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: BAM on April 19, 2010, 02:57:00 PM
Call all day long


this is why I put the thread up


The player insta-called which I was amazed about, on commentary. Brian then posted that it wasn't unusual and it was a call...and he does so here to

Rich I remember you saying it was an extraordinary call - or something similar but I was thinking what an extraordinary shove with AJo and tbh I was surprised he was that strong but against that player in that position I would have called.  Its 3 handed SB has a big hand and the shove doesn't say 'big hand' to me and a lay down would mean he owns me from now on, its not ideal but I think the call from the SB is a lot better play than the shove from the BB.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: BulldozerD on April 19, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
any love for a limp reraise pre against an aggro BB?


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: EvilPie on April 19, 2010, 04:43:23 PM
any love for a limp reraise shove pre against an aggro BB?

Yup. Plenty.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: MC on April 19, 2010, 04:49:42 PM
lol @ calling here.

Snap- caller obviously doesn't understand ICM.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: EvilPie on April 19, 2010, 04:55:21 PM
lol @ calling here.

Snap- caller obviously doesn't understand ICM.

So what do you do?

Raise/fold or just fold?


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: MC on April 19, 2010, 05:03:23 PM
lol @ calling here.

Snap- caller obviously doesn't understand ICM.

So what do you do?

Raise/fold or just fold?

Raise/folding and limp/re-shoving are both valid options


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: George2Loose on April 19, 2010, 05:25:12 PM
Laggy opponent? Isn't this an APAT tourney?


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: Pawprint on April 19, 2010, 05:29:35 PM
Laggy opponent? Isn't this an APAT tourney?

The three remaining players were

Alan Lake
John Murray
Don Roberts


Take your pick as to the laggy oppponent ?


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: George2Loose on April 19, 2010, 06:02:00 PM
Laggy opponent? Isn't this an APAT tourney?

The three remaining players were

Alan Lake
John Murray
Don Roberts


Take your pick as to the laggy oppponent ?

No idea who Don is. Played with John twice and he seemed pretty solid. I know Alan has got an agressive rep.

This is a fold tho imo.


Title: Re: APAT Short handed blind on blind
Post by: NigDawG on April 20, 2010, 04:09:39 PM
stacks are quite good for a limp re-raise all in here and could be used as a decent weapon vs the opponent described

i'd only be doing this if i saw villain was 3b shoving 30bb tho and live this isn't usually the case so if this was the first time i's just raise/fold