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2 player retirements which look like a snub to Fabio for not picking them for the World Cup. Then apparently ignored by Cole and doesn't know if his players are fit or not.
Good to see Jags and Cahill in the squad but left Rodwell out which was a bit annoying. He's impressed me more than Wilshere and is the type of player we need.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1301389/Ashley-Cole-blanks-England-boss-Fabio-Capello-Wes-Brown-quits.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1301389/Ashley-Cole-blanks-England-boss-Fabio-Capello-Wes-Brown-quits.html)

disagree. Yeh ok bit of egg on face but no big loss those two resigining

Better off that the petty kids bugger off anyway if that's what they are doing, we only want guys that are committed imo.............

yeah, dnt think any of the retirements are much loss since the WC.

Glad to see Gibbs, Wilshere etc in the squad and hopefully Hart can cement a place as #1 now.

Is it any suprise Fabio is getting a rough time, given the obscene wage he is on, including the players.

I think fans are finding it more and more difficult to stomach abject performances because of this factor.  I love football, but have absolutely no interest in this game this week, and by the sounds of it, Premier League managers are non plussed too!

Anyway FK the Premier League, the real football season has already started!

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So disillusioned with top flight footy after the WC, only thing I am looking forward to in the Prem is Ian Holloway

Actually watched UFC when I woke up on Sunday instead of Chelsea vs United.

Says a lot about how I feel about football atm.

yep, went round my mates to watch the charity shield yesterday, spent two hours talking about different types of tables from Ikea, missed two goals even though we were sat facing the TV

bring on Holloway

Not just me who's sick of the prima donna cheating bs then!!!

I've got a season ticket as I'd paid for our 3 year scheme but other than the Sunderland game I doubt I'll bother going to many if any of the other games.

Barry is now a 30-something.

Harry Redknapp was putting in the digs again at the England squad Fab chose once again, he's so lol petty because he wants the England job.

Yep, most of my conversations with the lads these days are on the best directions to use to get to a different part of the UK.

We discussed the merits of A1 vs M1 for getting to London the other weekend, on a Stag Do

 ;dingdell;

they both start in london, using either would see you leave the city, not get there

Might be interested in taking the ticket off you for an occasional match if possible?

Let me know if/when and see if we can sort it out.It's up in the gods if that puts you off though.

Awesome, will PM you about it. My little brother or even my dad might be interested too so I'll speak to them.

So that's what happens when you play Gerrard in his best position.

Who'dathunkit?

Loved Fabio's grumpy face after that wonderful second goal - he knows tomorrow's back page headline will be 'WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT IN SOUTH AFRICA YOU ITALIAN TWAT?'

please let that be it

Whats tosspot Ronneys excuse then? what an arrogant spoilt brat he comes across as these days...

So Becks has been ousted by Fabio, makes me pretty sad. I don't think Beckham had much else to offer on the pitch, but as a presence in the dressing room I think he will be missed, he is the only player who seems to give a toss and I think it would have had a big impact on some of the younger players who are gonna get brought into the squad to play alongside him for 20 minutes or whatever.

But who cares, top flight and international footy is pants

I effing love David Beckham. I love the "i'll always be available if ever needed" attitude he has.
I was gutted when Maclaren said he wouldn't play under him and delighted when he recalled him.
Gutted that he didn't make the World Cup.
He's always said that he will never retire from international football so you just don't pick him if you don't want him. I hate the Maclaren and now Fabio think they need retire him. Just don't pick him unless you need him.
The suggestion of the farewell friendly didn't sit well with me. I love the bloke and there is nobody i would like to see get a standing ovation at Wembley more than David Beckham but you earn caps. I don't think we should start International testimonials. I sort of warmed to the idea of a charity match MUFC XI V England XI at Wembley where it was an FA England XI but no caps awarded but still wasn't sure.
Then i get home and see "David Beckham says he will reject Fabio Capello's offer to play in a farewell match at Wembley".
Top man.

Anyone who's English and doesn't respect the efforts he's put in for his country is clueless,to quote Steven Gerrard "He's a Legend"

Should never have played again after the sending off versus Argentina.

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Dont get the big deal tbh - Fabio is asked if Beckham is too old to play, Fabio says yes. I dont see where there is a story.

fabio's face said it all after both goals.   he is praying to be sacked for a huge pay off.

I don't want to sound rude as i respect your posts but i don't get this.
Just because the story can be simplified it doesn't mean it's not a story.
It's like saying "Roy asked Mascherano if he wanted to play for Liverpool. Mascherano said no. I don't see where there is a story"
One of England's most capped players who was in most qualifying squads and until his injury was set to go to the World Cup has now (for the 2nd time) been retired by an England manager. You don't do this. If he's too old you don't pick him.
He didn't just say Beckham was too old to play. He said he wouldn't pick him for a competitive game but wanted him to play one friendly to say goodbye. A player that has always said he will never retire from international football doesn't need or want a game to say goodbye as he's said he will always be available a game to say goodbye retires him and he said he wouldn't do it.
He could have been treated with a bit more respect imo. Call him and say you're looking at new players but if we need you we'll call you, been a great servant etc, maybe you could join us at the Euro's again to help the players as you have experienced big tournaments etc.
Don't tell him on ITV in the tunnel before the game. He didn't need to answer the question. Beckham wasn't fit so he could just have said "we will see".
Beckham's international career isn't a big story anymore but it's still a story, especially when it's linked to the actions of the under pressure England manager.

He definitely deserved a lot more respect,the fact Capello got Baldini to ring him and tell him is a joke imo.

Reason why its important to me is Beckham represents the last player in the current line up with the attitude I think is needed to play for England, the last player who gives a shit and actually raises their game for their country rather than viewing it as a marketing gig.

I hope Becks plays again and Fabio gets sacked now, but in fairness I have pretty much stopped caring about International football after this summer.

Do you not think he has earned the right to be shown a bit more respect than hearing he is being retired via a television interview in broken English?

IMO Capello wanted to be sacked after the WC,and his actions since(ignoring the u-19's and now this) are the actions of a man who not only couldn't care less if he is sacked but would quite like it.

Jose I think your last line sums it up. It's a bigger story as it's another reason to sack Capello.

To be honest he could have done it better. But is his offensive 'broken English' (relevant how?) interview going to win or lose us any more matches?

We wanted someone bullish to come in so we got him in. We knew he'd previously said at Madrid Beckham would never play for the club again. It's his style!

And the press picking up on Fabios lack of respect considering how some of our players acted this summer is a complete joke.

In an interview broadcast prior to the match Fabio Capello seemed to dismiss David Beckham's chances of rejoining the England squad