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OK may as well post it up here too.

My daughter has just turned 13 and really would like her belly button pierced.

I'm not so sure whether she is old enough. To be fair to her it's not a sheep thing. She's quite mature and single minded.

Something just doesn't sit right with me and I feel like she's too young.

Thoughts?

Narp!

You could use the "you are still growing" type agruements

Def not for me - and i would like to think that  i would be fairly open minded too. Just too young imo

Put your Bedi foot down.

Too young....................

Will post my reply here too - It depends on the teen imo. Sinéad asked to have it done when she was 13. I let her only because she's the kind who is very exact in everything she does. If she were the flighty type who's forgetful, no way would I allow it as there's a good deal of after-care involved.

Edit to add wee PS - For the record, I wasn't thrilled about the idea at the time either.  But I couldn't come up with a genuine reason why she shouldn't be allowed.  She'd already sprouted mad and was as tall as me.  She's always been a very responsible person so I couldn't blame the after care as being trouble.  It's not illegal.  Basically, she had me on every front apart from my own opinion that it didn't seem 'right'.  Well, I decided it wasn't right for me to force my opinion on her either over something which is really pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things.

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Just say no! Then do the bedi chuckle!


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play her hu, if she wins she gets it. simples :)

Will def be getting it then.

gg george.

FWIW If you think she is mature enough to have it and look after it properly etc then let her have it.

get a clip on one

Tell her you'll think about it

When she's sixteen tell her that after considering all the options, to ask her mum.

Tell her she has to prove shes's serious about having it done. Tell her if she still wants it in a year she can have it.

This is tough one George.

My 14 year old Daugthers advice is:

"As long as she doesn't mind the pain and knows she has to keep it clean then you should let her go for it."

she then went on to say

"and as long as she isn't planning on getting a tattoo next, 'cos I'm telling you, that's what happens" - lol

Now THAT I would say no to, but it's illegal for them to tattoo anyone under 18 anyway. 

the answer is in your post!!!!

yep

The Tattooing of Minors Act 1969

absolutely fucking no chance.

Why not?

She's 13, she'll want to wear high cut tops to show it off, she'll realise that boys are attracted to her new look and maybe go further,  premature sexualisation of children is a personal hate of mine.

fair enough.

My daughter never wears cropped tops...EVER.  She doesn't like them.  Only time anyone even sees her piercing is at the pool.  She did it for her...not for anyone else. 

make her choose, belly button or tongue

This could be a point of negotiation?

For someone over 60 maybe, but good luck getting that idea past a teenager. 

Don't let her do it George.

glad this thread didn't go the same way as the fb discussion. the thing about digging up corpses was pretty sick

So tough these things but I'm with ACE2M in general.

You could probably put her off if you said you liked the idea so much you were going to get one too.

I'd even consider paying for yours to get done George :-)

no because i cant stand piercings in any way shape or form and actualy go quezy at the sight of a lot of them.

Don't think so,too much too young,think body piercing should be 16 min by law..my 11 year old hasn't even got her ears pierced...mind you that would involve unshackling the yoke and letting her out of the cupboard...

From the OP it sounds like your parental instincts say that its fine and that she'll deal with it responsibly but the social stigma about her age is the only thing thats stopping you. You commend your daughter for being single minded and not following the crowd so imo you shouldn't either

Young pup says exactly what I was thinking...only he says it miles better.

This is far to common nowadays. I blame the parents who are not strong enough to stand up to their children.
Don't let her do it George.

Let her do it! It's nothing, it's not like when she has it done he will change and end up drinking and having underage sex us it?

My personal view, which I'm repeating from facebook, is that 13 is just far too young for body piercings, and if hannah asked at that age she'd just get a firm 'not until you're 16'. We're going through the ear piercing debate at the moment - I think she's too young at 7 but just shy of half the girls in her class have theirs done so I guess it's personal preference. I've explained my reasons though and she accepts the decision. Dan makes a good point though - if you were dead set against it I don't think you'd have opened the debate so just make sure whatwver decision you reach is one you are comfortable with. What does Mrs Bedi think?

father of an 11 year old girl


Simple answer. Way too early at 13. 15 maybe, depending on maturity, 16 up to her

You'd let her get her ears pierced at 13 though? 

By the way, I have no opinion on this as I'm not a parent and therefore unable to have a valid opinion on anything to do with children or parenting.  Shame the same doesn't apply to the catholic church...

As a dad (and granddad) I'd suggest that you do your best to discourage this for the good reasons already mentioned elsewhere. They already grow up too fast.

This may help -- all the reputable piercing sites and piercers accept that piercings done under 16 have an increased risk of rejection or growing out..


What is rejection or 'growing out'?
Rejection
Rejection is a cause.

Rejection happens when you place a foreign object in your body (i.e. body jewellery) and your body, for one reason or another, considers that foreign object a threat to your health and safety. In order to protect itself, your body slowly fights the object by pushing it and healing the skin behind it to eventually force the object completely out through the skin.

Migration
Migration is the symptom.

The process of the movement that slowly brings your body jewellery closer and closer to the skin's surface is migration. If the jewellery is not removed, or the rate of migration slowed, the process of rejection will cause it to migrate far enough to actually create a hole large enough for the jewellery to fall out on its own. Once this happens, the possibility of healing without scarring is very unlikely.

There are many reasons for piercings rejecting: •Failure to carry out proper aftercare
•Having an allergic reaction to the jewellery being worn
•Improper placement of the piercing (e.g. pierced too shallow)
•Playing with the piercing before it has fully healed
•Catching or knocking the piercing with enough force
•Stretching the piercing too quickly or before it has fully healed
•Wearing jewellery that is too thin
•Pregnancy
•Illness or stress
There is also a specific kind of rejection, popularly called 'growing out', to which a number of piercings are prone. This is a natural process, quite often associated with a person's body growing, and is not usually accompanied by any redness, discomfort or discharge until the very late stages. This is more common in younger teenagers (who's bodies are still growing). The end result of this process, which can often take a year or more, is the loss of the piercing. We commonly see eyebrows, surface piercings and navels 'growing out' over time. There is no way of being able to tell for definite how long a piercee will keep their piercing for, as it varies so much from person to person. If you are considering a surface piercing please bear in mind the placement, as another thing that can affect the longevity of the piercing is the amount of movement that area of the body gets. The constant stretching and relaxing, of, for example, an ankle piercing, can also help a piercing to work it's way forward.
 

Her ears are pierced. I don't think that's a contradiction, he says pondering, I think body piercings are a different kettle of fish to ear piercing (which her mum agreed to and I chuntered about for a bit and gave in over, and she actually doesn't use!)

As an aside...

I really have a pet hate of babies with pierced ears and wearing jewelry ...

opinions ?

Totally!  Just ridic.

13. Too young.

Dear George

I think 13 is too young for body piercings. The rampant sexualisation of underage girls makes it far too easy for someone to get into trouble with the law.

Yours     Gary Glitter

Chav babies innit?

Based on your position as her parent, you alone can make the judgement call on whether you can trust her to have this done and remain a responsible teenager. She's in high school now, and the burden of responsibility is starting to sink in. All children are different, maturity levels fluctuate quite extremely between individual to individual at that age -- it's really down to you to answer that.

For what it's worth, I think piercing is more of a social taboo as opposed to any kind of corrupting influence. If you think a belly button piercing is anywhere close to being the reasons why this generation are "over sexualised" then I think you're barking up the wrong tree.

That said, as someone posted prior -- you might want to ensure she's aware of the medical aspects.

A belly button piercing is just wrong....I have yet to see one that doesn't make me wonder "WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????"

Obv 13 is too young, so is 28, and anything over 29 is too old.

deffo a different kettle of fish.  Ear piercing (procedure, healing and aftercare) is a lot more straightforward, and doesn't carry the same risks as body piercings for someone that's still growing.

Yes i fully believe the onset of the premature sexulisation of children was brought about entirely because of belly button piercings. The earth is flat right?

Yes. sorry about that.

I had no idea you had never heard the phrase "munting" before. But now you know, I guess you'll be able to refuse should anyone ever invite you to partake - imagine how embarressing that would have been if you didn't know and had turned up wearing the wrong attire or similar! So really, I did you a favour by introducing you to one of the sickest words of the urban dictionary.

yeah thanks, I now realise I should be glad that you introduced me to that particular practice

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Regards

M