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Ok so only info is this is like my 5th hand at the table. I'm taking a shot in a game I don't usually play so no real info on players. I've played Velador lots before but no dynamic as such.

I've played 3/4 hands so far, bluff bet folding one and I also bought in for a random amount (like $1476) so its possible they view me as a fish/bit tilted. Both are true :)

Anyway....thoughts on everything and more importantly the decision now...


Full Tilt Poker Game #24562109006: Table Keller (6 max, ante, deep) - $5/$10 Ante $1.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:53:27 ET - 2010/10/09
Seat 1: GreekStein ($1,276)
Seat 2: Luis Velador 7 ($4,204)
Seat 3: baronie ($1,758)
Seat 4: BredaBreda ($1,000)
Seat 5: NES_Pro ($2,000.50)
Seat 6: RandomDonk ($668)
NES_Pro antes $1.50
RandomDonk antes $1.50
baronie antes $1.50
Luis Velador 7 antes $1.50
GreekStein antes $1.50
Luis Velador 7 posts the small blind of $5
baronie posts the big blind of $10
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GreekStein [Jc 9c 5s Ad]
NES_Pro folds
RandomDonk folds
GreekStein raises to $42.50
Luis Velador 7 has 15 seconds left to act
Luis Velador 7 folds
baronie calls $32.50
*** FLOP *** [6d 9h 9s]
baronie checks
GreekStein bets $70
baronie calls $70
*** TURN *** [6d 9h 9s] [Ks]
baronie checks
GreekStein has 15 seconds left to act
GreekStein bets $160
baronie has 15 seconds left to act
baronie raises to $400

Well u know my answer but I'm tez at PLO, so I'd better leave it for others!

Is this a standard open pre?

i cant see what he calls with on flop and then choses to raise the turn unles he is making a strange play, flopped a fh or more likely flatted flop with kings or summat and make a fh on turn. I doubt u are ahead on the turn. I dont play this hand pre anyways

Fold pre
But I'm a noob

definitely not without reads/history or stats.

tough, prolly get it in now given if we flat he probably wont try to bluff you on the end (because he views you as tilted/fishy).

obv your tilting like a loon based on pre. get it in.

can make an arugument for it being a bluff or the nuts, impossible for me to convince myself either way on the info

It looks like a severe case of post-Vegas degen. syndrome to me.

2 words: check raise?...1 word: fold

excuse me?

I always open this and am even happier about it with antes. Fold turn I guess and thank him for such a terrible line. You can call turn fold river if he's really random and spazzy, I don't think you ever have to worry about getting exploited here.

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can he ever shove river for value with worse?

Negative.

+1 Pat, folded to you on the btn in an ante'd game you could open virtually any 4 into most blinds and show a profit. (as it happens I know both guys in the blind well and these are even more ideal players to have in the blinds cos they both massive nits)
+1 again fold turn, I know you didn't know this in play but I have tons of history with Baronie and he's a pretty huge nit, and ridiculously standard, he has K9/KK here just literally always. Ace river is really the only one we can continue to wager on and even then we'd have to bet/fld or chk/call vs this villian.

Good line throughout if you fold imo

pretty sigh turn card

terrible betting turn there if you dont know what you doing if hes rasises! Def a check turn

Pre is standard as is a turn fold imo

Not the size of game that I would usually play but I'm folding this pre. in my sleep.

"Post-Vegas degen. syndrome" is a condition that seems to be an affliction common amongst people who after visiting Las Vegas tend to play a bit tilted for whatever reason for a short time on their return home.

It happens frequently. Obviously I invented the term.

Ive been diagnosed. TY

idk, for me personally vs this player I'd bet the turn expecting him to call with worse often and only ever really raise with K9/KK, but yh I get you're point.
I just wouldn't normally expect him to raise here, very odd.

it loooooks like his range consists of k9/kk but if thats the case you should just float raise all the time if people are folding hands which are very close to the top of the range by the turn.

Have been playing abit of plo for the last month on the side and im either playing really well out the box or super spewy, perhaps the line isnt too thick.

back to the hand, im just sigh folding but i think calling the turn and folding the river isnt too bad a line as he is probably bluffing the river less than 5% when u call teh turn.

Yh, good point, but its really not a spot where you get exploited all that often, you're hand is OVER-repped if anything by the turn, so we could assume for almost definate that the villian is polarized to one of the nut houses or a bluff/semi bluff, i.e he's never EVER raising 6's full for value, i spose peole might turn weak 9's into Merge's from time to time but I certainly dont think so with this villian.

I actually think calling turn and folding river leaves you more open to exploitation because he now gets a lot more value from his bluff the small % of the time he is bluffing.

and yeah, the line is pretty thin spewwwwwwwwwwweeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ftw

Thanks Dave for the info on Baronie! Wish I knew at the time....

anyway I think I levelled myself, probably in part due to a similar hand earlier where I flatted and let a guy hit a random gs+fd and shoved. Baronie had a king with another king and won my monies.

Thanks for the comments Suuper and Patonius etc.

Not really helpful to the people who don't play Omaha/have no experience of these games telling me to fold pre. It's an open almost every time.

i'll spite his face off next I get him HU cos :) sweedish mthrfkr

not that he slumps at my levels anymore, he was like a decent 1/2 and 2/4 Hu reg then randomly played a bunch of 25/50 6max and heatered his face off last year. Nice Life him.

You played it absolutely fine pre an flop but checking turn an calling river is the right play long term in this spot in my opinion though!