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30 minutes into £50 live tournament
Blinds 25 - 50
No antes
10K starting stack

Villain 18k in small blind
Hero 10k

Villain has been active in at least 70% of all hands played so far raising 3 times with top pair poor kicker.
Hero not played a hand yet due to cold deck.
Hero in the hijack with AKcc, 3 limpers, Hero makes it 350 to play.
Villain calls as does UTG. Everyone else gets out of the way.

Flop 2D 8H KH
Checked to Hero, Hero makes it 750 to play
Villain raises to 1750, UTG folds
Hero??

i would flat or raise

foldings tez

All IN

I make it like 3500 and spew all over the table if he ships

lol my reply is so bad
Its opponent dependant

normally I would probs flat and bet/jam the turn if he check or bets  into u

if the guy just doesnt fold to anything i would raise to around 4250 and snap him

lol

easy call

erm cawl? and probably keep doing so. obv if big live read then fold.

Good question. I would definitely just call here. Would not be liking another heart on the turn, but at least you have position. I guess he's already paid over the odds to hit his flush draw, if that is what he has. I guess it gets more tricky if he comes out betting big on a seemingly safe turn, in which case, i would be seriously concerned that he'd flopped a set. Cheers for posting. Will be interesting to see how it plays out

Hero flats the raise.
Turn card 2C
Villain checks
Hero bets 2.8k
Villain raises to 6k
Hero???

definitely not an easy game. Maybe you could have checked back the turn? I really don't know the answer though. I'm just worried that he's using his loose image to get paid off by you now. Your bet on the turn looks like you're going all the way with the hand, but, he still re-raises you. I think i would have to fold now, and hope that he shows the full house or quads.

Have a plan before you bet in future. Check behind and get value on river, or bet/get it in.

Agree with this

My plan for the hand was going as I wanted it to up and til now. I expected him to push here but when he made it 6k it got me thinking that he had me beat. If anyone else on the table made the same bet it would have been an instafold but with this player I couldn't find the fold, his 3bet frequency was so high with average holdings I ended up pushing for the rest.

He flipped 88 leaving me drawing to a K, which obv never came.

I knew I played wrong, must rememeber that even aggro players can have it sometimes.

Thanks for the responses.

Just cos you lost the hand doesn't mean you necessarily played it wrong...

What I mean is that I was expecting him to shove to my bet on the turn but when he just made it 6k to play I should have recognised that his expected play had changed and I should have taken more notice.

+1

no matter how many pots he is playing, or how spazzy he is... he would need to be a complete idiot to not have you crushed here. His turn line / sizing is SO strong. I think you need to be checking behind on this turn allways aswell, unless ur bettting small to induce a spazz (in which case snap get it in obv).
Im surprised at everyones comments on this hand tbh.

I think quite alot of people have said same as you, myself, rupert, mc for def.

ok maybe i misunderstood. Villain seems SO STRONG here.

I know im not much of a folder......but can we not just fold to the flop c/r

I know we have a fkin bootyful hand, but are people ever really light here at this stage ina live tounrey? espicially this tourney.

Id fold and NEVER.EVER tell anyone lol

Prefer a check on the turn control this pot... By betting we gives villain the chance to push us off the hand or make us commit. I'm in check call mode let him bluff his chips with kq or draw but if he has us crushed his not getting our stack.if he ships on the river good luck to him I'll get him next time round...
 If we did bet the turn and get this heat im folding...until i see this guy turn over a hand and show me his a lunatic ill give him the benefit.The bloke who put ship on the flop wp sir way to over play

our hand is too strong to fold...plenty out there will cr with draw or kq etc.... the key is to control...we have position we will dictate the pace...spewing 200bb here is literally criminal

The point is is that the villain made 3 plays the same in the first half an hour of this tournie with
top pair poor kicker which went to a showdown and won against second pair callers. If anyone else one the table made the same play it would have been an insta fold.

If the guy has continually made the same plays with top pair poor kicker then your TPTK looks in pretty good shape at all stages of the hand imo.

If this was the case why has the hand made it to PHA? You have a read and went with it. With this information I spose you have to stack off

I completely disagree with the idea that, because villiain has gone to showdown (correctly) three times with top pair- weak kicker, he will most likely be doing the same or similar in this situation.
 To my mind, he's much more likely to be thinking, 'wow, they were easy chips, i almost doubled my stack up early doors, better not waste them chips now, i'd better show up with the goods next time 'cause i'll most likely be getting looked up and paid off'.
 I may be wrong, by the way, but it's just the way i see it.

its all fairly standard until you get to the turn. I would check the turn, once you bet it you should know if you are bet/calling off vs this villain or bet/folding. Much prefer checking in position though and calling most rivers

turn pairs the deuce.....erm check back..........

oh wait hangon this is live where you can get 3 streets and ppl still shove flushdraws on the turn, b/c turn about 1million%

Don't think we should be folding the flop here, especially with information about villain.

Turn I like a check back. Hero says villain check raises a lot, so betting turn can put us in a very difficult situation, just like it did. If you think villain is doing this enough with a flush draw, KQ/KJ/K10, get it in on the turn. However, for obvious pot control/unecessary high variance spot control (lol you know what I mean), check's good. Check on turn also induces bluffs on the river, and also spots where villain thinks he is value betting a King.

I like this post, the check on the turn which may induce a bluff or a value bet on the river would have enabled me to just call and not stack off.

Cheers Sunny

You say you had all  info on him and you had not played a hand (cold deck) but you are still in the 1st  level so  how can you get 200bb in with top pair top kicker?  check the turn back why bet why you don't have a clue where you are in the hand

well thats my thoughts

The board comes 2-8-k-2

We know from the action pre villain doesn't have A-A/K-K (+our blockers). We know villain doesn't have a better two pair hand. Turn confirms villain doesn't have a deuce (although we knew that anyhows). There is literally one single hand that beats us right now. We know villain is spewy and happy to get it in with tp weak kicker let alone 2 pair good kicker. Any talk of pot control in this situation is nancy boy poker. More than happy to get it in on turn and max value which you don't do if you check cos you fear a stone cold deck.