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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2010, 12:54:45 AM »

Just cos you lost the hand doesn't mean you necessarily played it wrong...

What I mean is that I was expecting him to shove to my bet on the turn but when he just made it 6k to play I should have recognised that his expected play had changed and I should have taken more notice.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2010, 12:36:55 PM »

Just cos you lost the hand doesn't mean you necessarily played it wrong...

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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2010, 01:21:19 PM »

no matter how many pots he is playing, or how spazzy he is... he would need to be a complete idiot to not have you crushed here. His turn line / sizing is SO strong. I think you need to be checking behind on this turn allways aswell, unless ur bettting small to induce a spazz (in which case snap get it in obv).
Im surprised at everyones comments on this hand tbh.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2010, 01:25:37 PM »

no matter how many pots he is playing, or how spazzy he is... he would need to be a complete idiot to not have you crushed here. His turn line / sizing is SO strong. I think you need to be checking behind on this turn allways aswell, unless ur bettting small to induce a spazz (in which case snap get it in obv).
Im surprised at everyones comments on this hand tbh.


I think quite alot of people have said same as you, myself, rupert, mc for def.

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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2010, 01:54:02 PM »

no matter how many pots he is playing, or how spazzy he is... he would need to be a complete idiot to not have you crushed here. His turn line / sizing is SO strong. I think you need to be checking behind on this turn allways aswell, unless ur bettting small to induce a spazz (in which case snap get it in obv).
Im surprised at everyones comments on this hand tbh.


I think quite alot of people have said same as you, myself, rupert, mc for def.



ok maybe i misunderstood. Villain seems SO STRONG here.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2010, 01:29:54 AM »

I know im not much of a folder......but can we not just fold to the flop c/r

I know we have a fkin bootyful hand, but are people ever really light here at this stage ina live tounrey? espicially this tourney.

Id fold and NEVER.EVER tell anyone lol
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2010, 09:44:51 AM »

Prefer a check on the turn control this pot... By betting we gives villain the chance to push us off the hand or make us commit. I'm in check call mode let him bluff his chips with kq or draw but if he has us crushed his not getting our stack.if he ships on the river good luck to him I'll get him next time round...
 If we did bet the turn and get this heat im folding...until i see this guy turn over a hand and show me his a lunatic ill give him the benefit.The bloke who put ship on the flop wp sir way to over play
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2010, 11:09:32 AM »

I know im not much of a folder......but can we not just fold to the flop c/r

I know we have a fkin bootyful hand, but are people ever really light here at this stage ina live tounrey? espicially this tourney.

Id fold and NEVER.EVER tell anyone lol

our hand is too strong to fold...plenty out there will cr with draw or kq etc.... the key is to control...we have position we will dictate the pace...spewing 200bb here is literally criminal
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2010, 12:41:15 PM »

The point is is that the villain made 3 plays the same in the first half an hour of this tournie with
top pair poor kicker which went to a showdown and won against second pair callers. If anyone else one the table made the same play it would have been an insta fold.
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 01:06:37 PM »

The point is is that the villain made 3 plays the same in the first half an hour of this tournie with
top pair poor kicker which went to a showdown and won against second pair callers. If anyone else one the table made the same play it would have been an insta fold.

If the guy has continually made the same plays with top pair poor kicker then your TPTK looks in pretty good shape at all stages of the hand imo.
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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2010, 01:32:44 PM »

The point is is that the villain made 3 plays the same in the first half an hour of this tournie with
top pair poor kicker which went to a showdown and won against second pair callers. If anyone else one the table made the same play it would have been an insta fold.

If this was the case why has the hand made it to PHA? You have a read and went with it. With this information I spose you have to stack off
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« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2010, 02:22:44 PM »

The point is is that the villain made 3 plays the same in the first half an hour of this tournie with
top pair poor kicker which went to a showdown and won against second pair callers. If anyone else one the table made the same play it would have been an insta fold.

You're right George, I just wanted an opinion on whether I could have got away from the hand knowing previous history.

If this was the case why has the hand made it to PHA? You have a read and went with it. With this information I spose you have to stack off
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« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2010, 05:37:03 PM »

I completely disagree with the idea that, because villiain has gone to showdown (correctly) three times with top pair- weak kicker, he will most likely be doing the same or similar in this situation.
 To my mind, he's much more likely to be thinking, 'wow, they were easy chips, i almost doubled my stack up early doors, better not waste them chips now, i'd better show up with the goods next time 'cause i'll most likely be getting looked up and paid off'.
 I may be wrong, by the way, but it's just the way i see it.
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« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »

its all fairly standard until you get to the turn. I would check the turn, once you bet it you should know if you are bet/calling off vs this villain or bet/folding. Much prefer checking in position though and calling most rivers
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2010, 07:52:17 AM »

turn pairs the deuce.....erm check back..........

oh wait hangon this is live where you can get 3 streets and ppl still shove flushdraws on the turn, b/c turn about 1million%

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