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Q's?

1. is he repping a hand? if so what?
2. Do you call?
3. Hows my line (pls bear in mind its nit rush poker)

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Full Tilt Poker Game #25441036542: Table Hermes - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:23:26 ET - 2010/11/10
Seat 1: gambino1976 ($110.55)
Seat 2: outragous76 ($316.45)
Seat 3: Markwinz ($142.95)
Seat 4: Xx_STENE_xX ($130.80)
Seat 5: JPips ($247.45)
Seat 6: MushoDori ($186.45)
Seat 7: kb448 ($143)
Seat 8: wowhwan ($218.25)
Seat 9: C-Bird9 ($293.30)
C-Bird9 posts the small blind of $1
gambino1976 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to outragous76 [Ac Qd]
outragous76 raises to $6
Markwinz folds
Xx_STENE_xX calls $6
JPips folds
MushoDori folds
kb448 folds
wowhwan calls $6
C-Bird9 folds
gambino1976 calls $4
*** FLOP *** [7h Qc 6c]
gambino1976 checks
outragous76 checks
Xx_STENE_xX checks
wowhwan checks
*** TURN *** [7h Qc 6c] [As]
gambino1976 bets $8
outragous76 calls $8
Xx_STENE_xX calls $8
wowhwan folds
*** RIVER *** [7h Qc 6c As] [2d]
gambino1976 checks
outragous76 checks
Xx_STENE_xX bets $10
gambino1976 has 15 seconds left to act
gambino1976 raises to $42
outragous76 has 15 seconds left to act
outragous76 has requested TIME ? ? ?

HIstory with villain?

none - rush poker

erm i think you have to call, your hand is so under repped. and it seems as fish betting 10 on the river is usually a weak hand, like 1 pair, such as jq kq a3 a9 etc villian is likely to check raise with a6 a7 67 etc for value, so with top 2, you crush a lot of his value range i think

you need to bet flop

as played you have to call

but he is likely to wake up with a set

I know- someone usually asks tho

lol - nh

3) absolutely no merit in checking flop as far as i can see

Why did you take the min value line?

I'm snapping river.

any live tells?

A few thougts:

This is rush, playing a hand against 3 villains ( oop to 2 of them) with 1 pair is getting stacked territory, so i check the flop to play a very small pot. Im happy to under rep and pick off bluffs

I take the min value line for the same reasons, id happily let this go if the wrong card comes


I guess my point is that i cant see a single hand that the viallin c/r on the end.

Given the board surely he bets any sets for value. The river hasnt filled anything. I mean bad beats are common place in rush, but i was like "wtf have you got". I just couldnt put him on a hand he EVER plays this way, and i wondered if people would ever take his line with a made hand (of any kind)

its not a tournament, u dont have to worry about busting, so just take the most +EV line which is betting this flop.  as u say its a nits game rush poker so if they raise u just fold

this, theres still plenty hands tht u can get atleast 2 and even maybe 3 streets of value from

i know its been said, but i cnt get past the flop check

played pretty bad, jam river to fold bottom set obv.

Yeah, you have to bet flop, call river. How can you ever fold the river? It's more of a jam than it is a fold.

fuck all, yes

If u wanna play/win small pots with tptk I don't think u should be playing rush. Maybe play some limit poker

Call river but 100% bet flop

So you check and the flop checks round, Kingball/5c/8c/*insert scare card* rolls off, what do you do?

Because we now allow worse hands to bet and maybe make us fold and level ourselves into making he wrong decision vs better hands too.

Or I bet and get 1 caller in position, and pretty much never win the pot in rush poker

I know it goes against the norm but I've played enough rush poker to know how these hands pan out. Hu I bet every time, but nt against 3 villains, especially at 1/2 where the play is far more aggressive

Delete thread?

Fold river.

Bet flop, raise turn.

Cos, With the greatest respect big man the questions were quite specific, I am more keen to see if people had thoughts on his holding.

As for playing it badly, I partly  agree i should probs bet the flop, but I certainly don't think it's the only way to play the hand. Furthermore if people don't think rush plays differently, they simply haven't played it enough. There is also nothing wrong with keeping pots small occasionally, and that is why I check to flop here. There are a million scare cards, and I find it mfi easier to fold in a smaller pot, and I am great at value towning myself in bigger pots.

This obv isn't a standard hand otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. I am really surprised that everyone thinks betting the flop is a must given they we  have Ac.

I always appreciate feedback on pha, and my questions or comments are to stimulate further enlightenment!

if getting value etc is that hard in this game from out of position (ie not betting flop or turn as played) then just fold pre (and go play 6max)

the idea of betting flop is to narrow field get some info on oppos range and some value

by not betting flop you get no value no info and 3oppos

At this stage I'd agree, but to suggest that one cannot interpret this information on later streets would be wrong, so in a way I do!

Also I'm never getting 3 streets of value with top pair.

The one thing I do agree with is narrowing the field, but I am no more certain as to whether he has 2pr, str8 draw, flush draw or top pair, if he just calls.

Consider the above a question as much as a statement

name sounds italian. gg analysis.

Gunna be brutally honest Guy, imo this was butchered

Not betting the flop is absolutely criminal. Think about it like this - how many combos beat you? If we assume that 67o, Q7 and Q6 fold pre we have 9 combos of hands that beat you. 9 combos out of the whole preflop flatting range of 3 different opponents! You're missing ridic value from Qx and the huge number of combos of draws out there, we have the  Ac redraw too.


Just because you're not willing to stack off with 1 pair doesn't mean that we shouldn't bet here. If we get raised, thats a different story but the vast majority of hands that we get value from are going to get flatted - especially in a multi way pot where people tend to play more straightforwardly.

Ty dan, ur post makes alot of sense

I will try and remember to post this spot next time it happens, maybe I either have a reluctance to fold or to stack off, and maybe that's the problem

Cheers

:D

i think you not call all you have is a pair of  Q and thats a high raise of 42$, i think fold would be a better option.....