what hand is the villain repping when he c/r the river? do you call?

[MC]

Yeah, you have to bet flop, call river. How can you ever fold the river? It's more of a jam than it is a fold.

[stato_1]

fuck all, yes

[paulhouk03]

If u wanna play/win small pots with tptk I don't think u should be playing rush. Maybe play some limit poker

Call river but 100% bet flop

[GreekStein]

I take the min value line for the same reasons, id happily let this go if the wrong card comes

So you check and the flop checks round, Kingball/5c/8c/*insert scare card* rolls off, what do you do?

Because we now allow worse hands to bet and maybe make us fold and level ourselves into making he wrong decision vs better hands too.

[outragous76]

I take the min value line for the same reasons, id happily let this go if the wrong card comes

So you check and the flop checks round, Kingball/5c/8c/*insert scare card* rolls off, what do you do?

Because we now allow worse hands to bet and maybe make us fold and level ourselves into making he wrong decision vs better hands too.

Or I bet and get 1 caller in position, and pretty much never win the pot in rush poker

I know it goes against the norm but I've played enough rush poker to know how these hands pan out. Hu I bet every time, but nt against 3 villains, especially at 1/2 where the play is far more aggressive

[GreekStein]

I take the min value line for the same reasons, id happily let this go if the wrong card comes

So you check and the flop checks round, Kingball/5c/8c/*insert scare card* rolls off, what do you do?

Because we now allow worse hands to bet and maybe make us fold and level ourselves into making he wrong decision vs better hands too.

I've played enough rush poker to know how these hands pan out.

Delete thread?

[pleno1]

Fold river.

Bet flop, raise turn.

[outragous76]

Cos, With the greatest respect big man the questions were quite specific, I am more keen to see if people had thoughts on his holding.

As for playing it badly, I partly  agree i should probs bet the flop, but I certainly don't think it's the only way to play the hand. Furthermore if people don't think rush plays differently, they simply haven't played it enough. There is also nothing wrong with keeping pots small occasionally, and that is why I check to flop here. There are a million scare cards, and I find it mfi easier to fold in a smaller pot, and I am great at value towning myself in bigger pots.

This obv isn't a standard hand otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. I am really surprised that everyone thinks betting the flop is a must given they we  have .

I always appreciate feedback on pha, and my questions or comments are to stimulate further enlightenment!

[BulldozerD]

if getting value etc is that hard in this game from out of position (ie not betting flop or turn as played) then just fold pre (and go play 6max)

[Ironside]

the idea of betting flop is to narrow field get some info on oppos range and some value

by not betting flop you get no value no info and 3oppos

[outragous76]

the idea of betting flop is to narrow field get some info on oppos range and some value

by not betting flop you get no value no info and 3oppos

At this stage I'd agree, but to suggest that one cannot interpret this information on later streets would be wrong, so in a way I do!

Also I'm never getting 3 streets of value with top pair.

The one thing I do agree with is narrowing the field, but I am no more certain as to whether he has 2pr, str8 draw, flush draw or top pair, if he just calls.

[outragous76]

Consider the above a question as much as a statement

[AlexMartin]

name sounds italian. gg analysis.

[DMorgan]

Gunna be brutally honest Guy, imo this was butchered

Not betting the flop is absolutely criminal. Think about it like this - how many combos beat you? If we assume that 67o, Q7 and Q6 fold pre we have 9 combos of hands that beat you. 9 combos out of the whole preflop flatting range of 3 different opponents! You're missing ridic value from Qx and the huge number of combos of draws out there, we have the   redraw too.


Just because you're not willing to stack off with 1 pair doesn't mean that we shouldn't bet here. If we get raised, thats a different story but the vast majority of hands that we get value from are going to get flatted - especially in a multi way pot where people tend to play more straightforwardly.

[outragous76]

Gunna be brutally honest Guy, imo this was butchered

Not betting the flop is absolutely criminal. Think about it like this - how many combos beat you? If we assume that 67o, Q7 and Q6 fold pre we have 9 combos of hands that beat you. 9 combos out of the whole preflop flatting range of 3 different opponents! You're missing ridic value from Qx and the huge number of combos of draws out there, we have the   redraw too.


Just because you're not willing to stack off with 1 pair doesn't mean that we shouldn't bet here. If we get raised, thats a different story but the vast majority of hands that we get value from are going to get flatted - especially in a multi way pot where people tend to play more straightforwardly.

Ty dan, ur post makes alot of sense

I will try and remember to post this spot next time it happens, maybe I either have a reluctance to fold or to stack off, and maybe that's the problem

Cheers