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guy is playing two $27 MTT's and a 5/10$ stud game. Hasn't played too many pots.

PokerStars Game #52540194355: Tournament #329047358, $25.00+$2.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (15/30) - 2010/11/11 20:42:26 WET [2010/11/11 15:42:26 ET]
Table '329047358 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: freshinho (1698 in chips)
Seat 2: dakstar948 (6820 in chips)
Seat 3: tibicsokker (2724 in chips)
Seat 4: bagz153 (4425 in chips)
Seat 5: bgddy (5782 in chips)
Seat 7: cs250286 (3910 in chips)
Seat 8: repoman55 (4766 in chips)
Seat 9: shirleym25 (4549 in chips)
freshinho: posts the ante 6
dakstar948: posts the ante 6
tibicsokker: posts the ante 6
bagz153: posts the ante 6
bgddy: posts the ante 6
cs250286: posts the ante 6
repoman55: posts the ante 6
shirleym25: posts the ante 6
repoman55: posts small blind 15
shirleym25: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bagz153 [Qc Kd]
freshinho: folds
dakstar948: calls 30
tibicsokker: folds
bagz153: raises 90 to 120
bgddy: folds
cs250286: folds
repoman55: folds
shirleym25: calls 90
dakstar948: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [6c Js Ts]
shirleym25: bets 300
dakstar948: folds
bagz153: calls 300
*** TURN *** [6c Js Ts] [2s]
shirleym25: checks
bagz153: checks
*** RIVER *** [6c Js Ts 2s] [9c]
shirleym25: bets 1080
bagz153: ?

have you called yet?

King Queen Jack Ten Nine.


Cawl.

Lol, I think I've laughed at everyone of your posts Titanium (in a good way) I called, but didnt feel happy about it, not in a results orientated way.

Think I'm closer to jamming then folding

Seriously does ANYONE fold this hand here?

what do you peeps think his value range is here when he pots it on the river when ive flat the flop and kq/spades both got there?

Without a solid read?? hell no.  I'm folding flop if I have to fold when I hit.

I realise that in alot of situations when we hit we're going to get checked to but we cant just fold now we make a straight and get lead into. I think call > shove for shure, he can totally have played Ax ss like a bit of a numpty but w/e pai the man.

fyp

Fwiw I like your pha posts where most of the post is questions to discuss different decision points.


With more of a read I could deffo find a fold here because his bet /check when it gets there/bet line does look strong but I haz straight, 5 cards in a row, I don't make that often damned if i'm folding.

as a bluff?

nah im too fat to bluff

a shove would seem more of a bluff than a vraise without reads and with this betting pattern no?

Erm maybe, but i said that point to illustrate how confident i am folding is the worst option.

I suppose you could turn your last comment around and say "without a rediculous read on player from history could you find a fold?"

FWIW i dont think shove on river very often, unless its maybe a rebuy and/or the player is a retard. I would expect a poor player to call with a set, a smaller straight and maybe even 2 J 10

If you don't call here then why are you calling on the flop?

I wasn't expecting the action to go as it did, he bets flop, I think he does this with straight draws/flush draws/2pairs and sets.

He checks the turn, I dont expect him to ever do this with two pair/sets.

He pots the river, if he has 2 pair/set I am pretty confident he never does this. Straight draw got there, but KQ as well as us? really? He is playing 5/10 stud and a couple of other tournies, he has done nothing erratic so far and although he has gained chips this is when I've been at another table. I really think this is just a flush always. I called ofc and I think it is actually a bad call, at the time I was really close to folding, but obv my mate said lolwut and I called. Put in the same situation I think I'd fold, am i missing something reallllllllly obvious here, apart from the fact I have 5 cards in a row ( a run :D ) that make this a no brainer call.

have you called yet?

about 4 lines into my last post. cant disagree with me if you dont read why :P (im putting smilys itt so people dont think im saying im right youre wrong wtf you posting for then)

SMILEYS ITT rotflmfao

If i shove, its with the intention of folding out the same hand i think.

Id have to have a VERY good reason to fold, and no-one has even come close to providing me with one, so....

I call.

villains value range in this spot pls lildave?

People are morons and make moronic bluffs, dont hero fold when your literally at the tip top of range, with an underepped hand in a $25 MTT vs a random with no reads.

I'm not sure what your experience of these $27s are but they are full of regs and fish, the guy hasn't played a hand yet and is playing relatively high cash game.

Nevermind, obv noone agrees with me.  :)

I called and he had A4ss, honesssstly wasnt being result oritented. Honestly!

he can bet worse for value, and we dont know if hes good enough to never be bluffing here. sighcall.

if he is betting worse for value does he really insta pot?

I think you may be being results orientated without meaning to be, I personally think its incorrect to say that he only bets flush here for value.. but if that was your read at the time  then obv you should of folded

Weaker hands than flushes who are betting for value at least think before just potting it though, I think his range is for sure polarised between flushes and air.

wtf fistpump call i bet he bets turn with a flush

villain doesnt think in ranges, hes clicking buttons

why do we automatically think he's a fish?

doesn't have to be a fish to click buttons but

Because unless he gives you a good reason not to, thats usually a pretty safe assumption in a $27 MTT on stars