Title: king khan Post by: Ironside on December 11, 2010, 06:40:22 PM anyone seen a schedule for approx times of all the fights?
Title: Re: king khan Post by: toddswain on December 11, 2010, 06:51:02 PM http://www.skysports.com/kingkhan/story/0,29150,20063_6567121,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/kingkhan/story/0,29150,20063_6567121,00.html)
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Ironside on December 11, 2010, 07:01:11 PM thanks
this aint good thought there might be a long break between the last brit fight and khan fight Title: Re: king khan Post by: outragous76 on December 11, 2010, 07:15:59 PM Is Khan ppv? If so any links?
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Ironside on December 11, 2010, 07:20:08 PM all the fights are ppv no links till 8 pm but just serch justintv
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Novice on December 11, 2010, 10:12:46 PM http://www.justin.tv/boxingzonextra/#/w/640956768/2
Title: Re: king khan Post by: George2Loose on December 12, 2010, 03:03:09 AM any other links?
Title: Re: king khan Post by: toddswain on December 12, 2010, 03:06:18 AM http://atdhe.net/index.html (http://atdhe.net/index.html)
click live sports at top and scroll down, one works on ie/firefox and one works on google chrome this is what im watching on Title: Re: king khan Post by: Christo! on December 12, 2010, 03:07:37 AM http://www.firstrow.net/watch/41259/1/watch-boxing:-amir-khan-vs-marcos-madaina.html
Title: Re: king khan Post by: gatso on December 12, 2010, 03:15:05 AM is it next up?
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Christo! on December 12, 2010, 03:17:29 AM Title: Re: king khan Post by: gatso on December 12, 2010, 03:18:50 AM cool, I might manage to stay awake then
Title: Re: king khan Post by: toddswain on December 12, 2010, 03:46:44 AM Sick 1st rounddd
Title: Re: king khan Post by: gatso on December 12, 2010, 03:50:47 AM that body shot reminded me of ricky hatton
Title: Re: king khan Post by: toddswain on December 12, 2010, 04:32:01 AM Sickkkk fight, never liked kahn before this, defo earnt alot of respect. fair play
Title: Re: king khan Post by: DaveShoelace on December 12, 2010, 10:50:03 AM It couldnt have gone better for Khan, not only did he clearly establish himself as one of the best fighters in the world in front of a big american audience, he also established himself as one of the most exciting. As dominant as Khan looks going forward he always looks vulnerable in defence, so he will probably get some great fights as a result. I reckon he will probably lose at some point to a smart fighter, but he has a helll of a career ahead of him.
Not sure how the judges had it as close as they did, I had Khan ahead clearly even without the point deduction. Title: Re: king khan Post by: The Baron on December 12, 2010, 11:23:11 AM Great fight. Could the judges have awarded any 10-8s there without a knockdown? He was badly dominated in 2-3 rounds. Can't see why he wasn't further ahead on points if not!
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Longy on December 12, 2010, 11:42:30 AM Agree with Barry, perfect fight for Khan. As this will serve as great promotion for him in the US, as an exciting fighter to watch. Now we know he can take a punch but still has a mediocre defence.
Was a great fight to watch, wouldn't mind seeing a rematch. Title: Re: king khan Post by: Amatay on December 12, 2010, 11:58:30 AM i missed the first few rounds. anywhere we can watch replays online?
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Longy on December 12, 2010, 12:00:42 PM i missed the first few rounds. anywhere we can watch replays online? YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZoaORIH5I8 Edit: Hmm that is only round 1, hbo are copyrighting everything so quickly nothing lasts long. Title: Re: king khan Post by: DaveShoelace on December 12, 2010, 12:01:55 PM I'm not so sure I want to see a rematch, as good as the other guy was. I think one of the key components that made it a great fight was the sense that Khan was about to throw it away, rather than the other kid was matching him. In the same way that I don't think we needed to see him face Breidis Prescott again, because that loss was much more about what Khan did wrong than what Prescott did right. I think I would much rather see him move up to another big fighter, preferably one with a few more tricks in the box than Maidana.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: gatso on December 12, 2010, 12:04:49 PM Great fight. Could the judges have awarded any 10-8s there without a knockdown? it was just one knockdown wasn't it? if so then there's another point missing from all 3 scorecard so yes incred fight, the yanks will pay a lot of money to see him again. looking really good, quick, powerful and with a solid chin Title: Re: king khan Post by: GreekStein on December 12, 2010, 03:20:07 PM try boxing core amatatio
Title: Re: king khan Post by: kinboshi on December 12, 2010, 06:14:02 PM Great fight, Khan showed a lot of heart and a very mature performance.
Ridiculous from the judges. With the 10-8 from the knockdown round and the point deduction, Khan was at least six rounds ahead. Basically, two judges thought that Khan lost more rounds than he won - which is simply bollocks. Title: Re: king khan Post by: DaveShoelace on December 12, 2010, 09:52:34 PM Great fight, Khan showed a lot of heart and a very mature performance. Ridiculous from the judges. With the 10-8 from the knockdown round and the point deduction, Khan was at least six rounds ahead. Basically, two judges thought that Khan lost more rounds than he won - which is simply bollocks. Most of the rounds Khan won, he dominated, I think he was well ahead even if the two 10-8 rounds didnt happen. In fact, do they publish the score cards after the fight anywhere? Because I am pretty sure they will have had to have given Maidana a couple of 10-8 rounds too to get them that close. Its my biggest pet peeve in boxing, the commentators said all that matters is the right result was called, but I disagree, for someone to have got a score card that wrong even though the end result was right stinks of incompetence/corruption, but it always goes overlooked as long as the right man wins, so he will go on to judge again. Title: Re: king khan Post by: The Baron on December 12, 2010, 09:59:13 PM Great fight, Khan showed a lot of heart and a very mature performance. Ridiculous from the judges. With the 10-8 from the knockdown round and the point deduction, Khan was at least six rounds ahead. Basically, two judges thought that Khan lost more rounds than he won - which is simply bollocks. Most of the rounds Khan won, he dominated, I think he was well ahead even if the two 10-8 rounds didnt happen. In fact, do they publish the score cards after the fight anywhere? Because I am pretty sure they will have had to have given Maidana a couple of 10-8 rounds too to get them that close. Its my biggest pet peeve in boxing, the commentators said all that matters is the right result was called, but I disagree, for someone to have got a score card that wrong even though the end result was right stinks of incompetence/corruption, but it always goes overlooked as long as the right man wins, so he will go on to judge again. This Title: Re: king khan Post by: AndrewT on December 12, 2010, 10:20:07 PM IMO, theres smell of minor corruption in there to stimulate interest in a re-match... That's what I thought as well. Title: Re: king khan Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 10:56:59 AM I want to see the scorecards too (going to search now). The thing is that the scorecards are submitted after each round, so they can't 'predict' how close it's going to be. So trying to engineer a close result is difficult as they don't know how the subsequent rounds are going to go.
From here (http://www.boxingplanet.net/boxing-news/item/1342-amir-khan-beats-marcos-maidana-to-retain-wba-light-welterweight-title.html) "The judges gave it to him over 12 rounds by margins of 114-111 twice and 113-112. Had one judge, Jerry Roth, not bizarrely awarded the final round to the champion, Khan would have won by a single point on all three cards. I had him winning 115-112." Still looking for the score cards... Title: Re: king khan Post by: kinboshi on December 13, 2010, 11:06:36 AM http://www.sportinglife.com/boxing/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=boxing/10/12/12/manual_043814.html
The official scorecards are now slightly different to what was announced on the night (or maybe I misheard, I was a bit tired). They're now 114-111, 114-111, 113-112. Even if the 10th was given as a 10-8 round, that still means the judges had Maidana winning more rounds than Khan. Still can't find the score cards showing each judge's score for each round... http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1540572 Title: Re: king khan Post by: ACE2M on December 13, 2010, 06:44:38 PM when do sky start showing it? i'm avoiing watching it in bits if i can help it.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: George2Loose on December 14, 2010, 11:54:49 PM anywhere to watch the degale fight? Apparantly he pwned too
Title: Re: king khan Post by: stonecoldkiller on December 15, 2010, 12:22:26 AM anywhere to watch the degale fight? Apparantly he pwned too He won every round imo, he has a bright future as he has a very awkward style, Groves is his mandatory now so hopefully that gets made in the spring. On the subject of the scoring, i gave Khan the 1st 6 rounds plus the last, Maidana won 7,8,9,10(10-8) and 11 making it 115-112(although i wouldnt see anything wrong with scoring the 3rd round as 10-10) Khan dominated early although he never dominated enough to get a 10-8 round bar the knockdown in the 1st. He will probably fight Zab Judah in the spring as a homecoming defence before fighting the winner of the unification bout between Bradley and Alexander hopefully this comes to fruition and he can unify the division before stepping up to 147. Title: Re: king khan Post by: stonecoldkiller on December 15, 2010, 05:03:39 PM when do sky start showing it? i'm avoiing watching it in bits if i can help it. Will most likely be thursday or friday, watch out for a ringside special, which normally airs tomorrow night. Title: Re: king khan Post by: ACE2M on December 17, 2010, 12:48:59 AM when do sky start showing it? i'm avoiing watching it in bits if i can help it. Will most likely be thursday or friday, watch out for a ringside special, which normally airs tomorrow night. just watching now, just me or do the commentators hopelessly get it wrong. Khan definitely ahead at the 5th but not quite dominating like they think? Title: Re: king khan Post by: ACE2M on December 17, 2010, 01:31:50 AM scorecards seemed pretty fair. wish he would follow his shots throgh so they're knockout blows rather than goodshots.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: Madone on December 17, 2010, 01:45:53 AM I think it was alot closer than the commentators and most of the british public think. It was a good performance by Khan but everyone saying it was a great performance which i dont understand and agree with.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: ACE2M on December 17, 2010, 01:53:31 AM I think it was alot closer than the commentators and most of the british public think. It was a good performance by Khan but everyone saying it was a great performance which i dont understand and agree with. you're right. he got in with a banger that no one else wanted to fight and won which was right from a boxing scoring pov. did he dominate like a mayweather or pacquio, not even close but he won and can improve imo. Title: Re: king khan Post by: ACE2M on December 17, 2010, 02:05:43 AM de gale looks good.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: kinboshi on December 17, 2010, 10:22:01 AM when do sky start showing it? i'm avoiing watching it in bits if i can help it. Will most likely be thursday or friday, watch out for a ringside special, which normally airs tomorrow night. just watching now, just me or do the commentators hopelessly get it wrong. Khan definitely ahead at the 5th but not quite dominating like they think? Dominating on the scorecards. He quite convincingly won the first 6 rounds imo, and that also included the 10-8 round. That's why the scoring is so wrong. It doesn't matter if Khan get 7 bells of shit punched out of him for the remaining 6 rounds, without 10-8 rounds in Maidana's favour, or a knockout, he wouldn't have been able to win. Then there was the point deduction as well, which should have made the scorecards even wider. I just don't see where Maidana won more than 6 of the 12 rounds (and that's giving him a 10-8 for the round he hurt Khan, but didn't get the knockdown). Title: Re: king khan Post by: The Baron on December 18, 2010, 02:55:52 PM when do sky start showing it? i'm avoiing watching it in bits if i can help it. Will most likely be thursday or friday, watch out for a ringside special, which normally airs tomorrow night. just watching now, just me or do the commentators hopelessly get it wrong. Khan definitely ahead at the 5th but not quite dominating like they think? Dominating on the scorecards. He quite convincingly won the first 6 rounds imo, and that also included the 10-8 round. That's why the scoring is so wrong. It doesn't matter if Khan get 7 bells of shit punched out of him for the remaining 6 rounds, without 10-8 rounds in Maidana's favour, or a knockout, he wouldn't have been able to win. Then there was the point deduction as well, which should have made the scorecards even wider. I just don't see where Maidana won more than 6 of the 12 rounds (and that's giving him a 10-8 for the round he hurt Khan, but didn't get the knockdown). In the 12 there were two 10-10s imo. Title: Re: king khan Post by: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2010, 04:34:30 PM There were maybe 3 or 4 rounds where Khan looked in danger, and in those rounds he looked really bad, but apart from that I think he was clearly ahead and controlling the other 8 - I think there was just about a clear winner in almost every round and Khan didn't need the two 10-8 rounds to be a convincing winner. Just because he wasn't taking the guys head off in some of those rounds didn't mean he wasn't controlling the ring, getting better punches off more often and more accurately and generally looking like the significantly better boxer.
Title: Re: king khan Post by: stonecoldkiller on December 18, 2010, 09:33:44 PM Khan will always look good fighting at range, this was the 1st real test under roach and while his offence has improved significantly, his defence was shockingly bad, the boy just does'nt know how to fight on the inside whatsoever.
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