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Title: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on February 17, 2011, 09:45:57 PM
I've backed Australia outright, they still have a decent one day team and they whipped us and we were supposed to be a serious contender this year.

I've back SA for most 6's, fancy they have a deep run and they have so many six hitters they have to be the pick of the group behind India.

Anything else for anybody?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 17, 2011, 09:52:23 PM
cant see past india or south africa myself


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 17, 2011, 09:55:40 PM
Not betting, but based on the available odds I'd go for SA at 11/2


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 17, 2011, 10:01:14 PM
Not betting, but based on the available odds I'd go for SA at 11/2

south africa's bowling attack is usually shit hot, may struggle on the sub continant, and they dont really have a class spinner which will be vital


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 17, 2011, 10:12:40 PM
Not betting, but based on the available odds I'd go for SA at 11/2

south africa's bowling attack is usually shit hot, may struggle on the sub continant, and they dont really have a class spinner which will be vital

May as well bet on England then  ;whistle;


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 17, 2011, 10:37:31 PM
Really looking forward to this. The old World Cup programmes on Sky Sports have been great stuff.

Not had a bet yet, but i think it's between Sri Lanka and India.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Baron on February 17, 2011, 11:36:47 PM
Really looking forward to this. The old World Cup programmes on Sky Sports have been great stuff.

Not had a bet yet, but i think it's between Sri Lanka and India.

This


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on February 18, 2011, 12:10:53 AM
cant see past india or south africa myself

my real cricket loving friends reckon its really open this year, genuinely 6 teams could win, so india offer no value.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 18, 2011, 12:24:50 AM
CRICKET FRIEND *DOES THUMBS UP AND SMILE*


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on February 18, 2011, 12:27:30 AM
I thought Sri Lanka would be the value, but the bookies seem wise to it. They have priced as I would India>Sri Lanka> SA> Aus> Rest.

Not a fan of the format, too many meaningless matches that go on for forever then a straight KO which will be the nut games, sigh.

Prefer 4 groups of 3 then another group stage of 2 of 4, then semis then final. Something like that obv means reducing the comp to 12 teams, but there are only 9 competitive teams rly.





Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2011, 12:28:59 AM
Ten years ago the cricket World Cup was great, really something to look forward to.

But 20:20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 over game and this tournament really doesn't have the lustre it used it imo.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Bongo on February 18, 2011, 12:31:15 AM
I thought it would be sweet until I realised how long it went on for.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Matt50 on February 18, 2011, 10:10:17 AM
Goes on for far too long, but lots of trading opportunities.

Have backed NZ at 24 with a view to trading later on.
Also going to look at backing Bangladesh if they get beat by India tomorrow, again with a view to trading.  I think they will surprise a few teams.

Very open tournament though and difficult to pick a winner at this stage.

Dont fancy England at all though.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 18, 2011, 10:13:43 AM
Sri Lanka for me would appeal, local conditions lots of batting, good slow bowlers but 4/1 too short

Can't fancy England out there, India too short

Pakistan on their day, at 15/2 outright, but unbackable given their day depends on many non cricketing factors!

WI at 20/1 for a sporting run please


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 18, 2011, 10:59:27 AM
I like the look of the 9/1 on Michael Yardy to be top England bowler.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on February 18, 2011, 01:56:14 PM
Basically only 6 teams can win the world cup imo, so i've bet the outsider of the 6 Pakistan E/W at 9/1, to big of a price not to back with the talent they have in there team and in conditions they are used to.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2011, 05:22:46 PM
My greatest ever fail - telling anyone who would listen that Sri Lanka were massively overpriced at 66/1 to win the 1996 CWC, then not backing them myself.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 19, 2011, 09:54:31 AM
If England can avoid Sri Lanka in the quarter final, i think we have a decent chance of reaching the semi's. Having said that, our WC campaigns are usually pretty disastrous, and we are definitely in the toughest group.

Two area's are going to be crucial in this tournament. Firstly it's crucial to get off to a flyer, run scoring is going to be easiest early on against the seamers, it's worth sacrificing 2 or 3 wickets to get up to 100 after 15 overs. I like the move to open with Pieterson, and Strauss has been positive in the last 12 months in one day cricket. The problem i can see though is Trott. His form in the one dayers in Australia has changed England's plans imo, i'm fairly sure he wouldn't have been in the first choice team pre Aus, but now he has to play and he has to bat at 3. I think he will score runs but i don't think he will get them quickly enough. Also i'm not sure he's all that good against spin. Secondly, it's going to be important that we play the spinners well in the middle overs, something we have constantly been poor at. Morgan is a massive loss here.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 19, 2011, 11:25:52 AM
Slow start for Sehwag.

Immense batting line up, as we know


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 19, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Bangladesh having a decent crack at chasing this massive score down.........


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 19, 2011, 03:04:35 PM
Bangladesh having a decent crack at chasing this massive score down.........

Hahaha, bok.......


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 22, 2011, 09:26:05 AM
bit wierd england leaving yardy out i think....


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 10:36:12 AM
109  for 2...please let it happen again :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 22, 2011, 10:39:08 AM
surely the person who stole paul collingwood's razor wins the competition for practical joke of the year?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 22, 2011, 10:40:57 AM
Dropping Yardy is odd

Play him all winter in the one dayers, then get to the WC where conditions need pace off the ball and craftiness and thanks but no thanks




Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 22, 2011, 10:44:51 AM
looks as though theres 2 places in the team between bopara, bresnan and yardy. i think if bopara is happy to bowl a few overs (little medium pacers could be effective in subcontinant) then i would choose bopara and yardy and leave bresnan out. Cant really see what he has to offer on these pitches, if anderson cant make it swing then Bres has no chance.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 10:45:50 AM
131-2 Come on Doeschie!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Acidmouse on February 22, 2011, 10:57:24 AM
looks as though theres 2 places in the team between bopara, bresnan and yardy. i think if bopara is happy to bowl a few overs (little medium pacers could be effective in subcontinant) then i would choose bopara and yardy and leave bresnan out. Cant really see what he has to offer on these pitches, if anderson cant make it swing then Bres has no chance.

Bresnan is an ideal one day player. his game is great for the format and his stats prove he has done very well. I would defo play him. His batting average is 3 below Bopara's case closed.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on February 22, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
looks as though theres 2 places in the team between bopara, bresnan and yardy. i think if bopara is happy to bowl a few overs (little medium pacers could be effective in subcontinant) then i would choose bopara and yardy and leave bresnan out. Cant really see what he has to offer on these pitches, if anderson cant make it swing then Bres has no chance.

Bresnan is an ideal one day player. his game is great for the format and his stats prove he has done very well. I would defo play him. His batting average is 3 below Bopara's case closed.

hes handy with the bat too, bowling nicely today. just think he may be  the pace to get smacked around a bit of these surfaces by a good batting line up.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 22, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
Shambles.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on February 22, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
Surely England are a lay at 1/4 ??


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 22, 2011, 12:51:51 PM
Surely England are a lay at 1/4 ??

Should still win, but certainly no 4's on shots batting under lights.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 22, 2011, 12:52:20 PM
Yep, maximum lay for me.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 12:53:25 PM
292 for 6....we're doing pretty well. Shame Doeschie is gone, he's superb.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on February 22, 2011, 12:53:35 PM
Surely England are a lay at 1/4 ??

Should still win, but certainly no 4's on shots batting under lights.

When did England last get 300 in a ODI ? I know it's against a weak non test playing cricket side but after what sounded like an absolutely shambolic performance by us, 1/4 seems a ridic price.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longines on February 22, 2011, 12:58:27 PM

When did England last get 300 in a ODI ?

They did it twice against the Aussies in Jan/Feb. Depends if the batting can be quite as crap as the bowling was.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longines on February 22, 2011, 01:03:18 PM
From BBC coverage:

From Anon: "That level of performance, against a team of journeymen with a few talented individuals, is shameful. There will be harsh words exchanged in the Netherlands changing room."


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on February 22, 2011, 01:05:16 PM
Yep, maximum lay for me.

Decided to fade it, congrats :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 01:27:41 PM
From BBC coverage:

From Anon: "That level of performance, against a team of journeymen with a few talented individuals, is shameful. There will be harsh words exchanged in the Netherlands changing room."

lolz


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on February 22, 2011, 02:34:02 PM
Just got up and was like wtf, 292!

It is like the bad old days, embarassing ourselves on the world stage again.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 03:28:58 PM
Getting updates form yahoo you need 112 from 100....please hold :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on February 22, 2011, 03:40:07 PM
Getting updates form yahoo you need 112 from 100....please hold :)

You rooting for England then, as we have been faves to win this at every point of today.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 03:42:56 PM
Getting updates form yahoo you need 112 from 100....please hold :)

You rooting for England then, as we have been faves to win this at every point of today.


Well you've been favs up until the point where you conceded a massive 292 with me TBH. After that I had it as pretty tight TBH, especially with England's ability to massively collapse.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on February 22, 2011, 03:49:43 PM
Getting updates form yahoo you need 112 from 100....please hold :)

You rooting for England then, as we have been faves to win this at every point of today.


Well you've been favs up until the point where you conceded a massive 292 with me TBH. After that I had it as pretty tight TBH, especially with England's ability to massively collapse.

You are only 14 to 1 on betfair, pretty close imo.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on February 22, 2011, 04:11:34 PM
I cant believe that England haven't started to play some big shots and make this easy

Also, why Collingwood at 5 ??? Makes no sense on current form


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on February 22, 2011, 04:21:26 PM
Dont care if we win, this batting is pathetic, 3 -4 blows over the top during the powerplay and the game wouldve been over. Bowling is v v ordinry


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on February 22, 2011, 04:26:45 PM
Disagree. You play the game infront of you. Whether it takes us longer or not there is no need to risk the big shots. Well ahead of where Netherlands were and have bigger hitters to come if needed. Shouldn't have let them get as many as they did but to say we've only chased 293 or higher 3 times before if we do it then it doesn't really matter how.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on February 22, 2011, 04:29:59 PM
Lack of ability to clear the ropes is worrying- other teams are capable of 20+run overs, we just dont seem to have anyone to do it.  We should be able to chase 350 id say against this bowling on a decent track like it is with a fast outfield


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on February 22, 2011, 04:33:26 PM
Hard to describe how poor this attack is in international terms, fair play if we get there and you have a point, but we just need a bad few balls, a fluke wicket and we can lose which should never happen after the first 20 overs


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on February 22, 2011, 04:35:10 PM
RTD is usually the "6th" bowler for Essex, the fact he was 9-4 to be top bowler sums their attack up. Tom Cooper wouldnt get a bowl in any Essex league game let alone a World Cup game


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
13 AND 12...We can do this


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Graham C on February 22, 2011, 04:40:05 PM
13 AND 12...We can do this

weee, we did it!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 22, 2011, 04:40:34 PM
Easy.

Bring on India, they must be quaking.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: boldie on February 22, 2011, 04:41:11 PM
13 AND 12...We can do this

weee, we did it!

Sigh, ah well..most fun I've had following cricket in ages.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on February 26, 2011, 06:20:20 PM
Good game today, and an excellent win for Pakistan, especially against a home team who are 2nd favourites.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 10:34:11 AM
great toss to win this, India will set us 325+


next!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longines on February 27, 2011, 11:40:17 AM
"England's team have 21 ODI centuries between them, Tendulkar's just completed his 47th"


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 11:41:07 AM
fantastic to watch, what a genius


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 11:50:18 AM
Oppo 524-8 off 88 overs v England in WC so far


correction 528-8 off 88.1 overs


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 11:51:26 AM
correction 528-9 lol


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Baron on February 27, 2011, 11:56:57 AM
fantastic to watch, what a genius


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on February 27, 2011, 12:45:36 PM
most pointless review ever, it's hit him about an inch in front of the stumps. awesome over from bresnan


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Acidmouse on February 27, 2011, 01:38:20 PM
looks as though theres 2 places in the team between bopara, bresnan and yardy. i think if bopara is happy to bowl a few overs (little medium pacers could be effective in subcontinant) then i would choose bopara and yardy and leave bresnan out. Cant really see what he has to offer on these pitches, if anderson cant make it swing then Bres has no chance.

Bresnan is an ideal one day player. his game is great for the format and his stats prove he has done very well. I would defo play him. His batting average is 3 below Bopara's case closed.

Fine effort from fatty :) pity it will all be in vein.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on February 27, 2011, 01:48:42 PM
Bizarre that England can be so dominant in the ashes and win the 20:20 WC, but are just crap at 50 overs cricket.

I guess we'll have to settle for spanking the Australians, it's the only bit of cricket of any interest to anyone!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on February 27, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
any decent streams where the sound doesn't keep dropping?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 02:02:29 PM
Sigh, fking luckbox..............


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ripple11 on February 27, 2011, 02:41:33 PM
 
COME ON ENGLAND!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 02:47:48 PM

COME ON ENGLAND!


even if we don't make it, net run rate is important, got to get as close as possible

could be us versus Bangla for the 4th spot


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 03:08:07 PM
Interesting, didn't even know that 2.5 m rule existed.............


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: KarmaDope on February 27, 2011, 03:31:50 PM
Wish we'd take the batting powerplay now!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on February 27, 2011, 03:32:33 PM
Hmmm we have a chance here!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 27, 2011, 03:37:37 PM
Hmmm we have a chance here!

Currently 1.4 on BF


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
Hmmm we have a chance here!

Shhhhh, no bokking please  :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on February 27, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
Quite enjoying this, CMON ENGLAND!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 03:39:10 PM
Hmmm we have a chance here!

Currently 1.4 on BF

India were 1.08 earlier was gonna lay it massive sigh.............


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 04:24:39 PM
 ;frustrated;


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ItsMrAlex2u on February 27, 2011, 04:31:47 PM
How to grab defeat from the jaws of victory


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 04:40:24 PM
Sigh, its the hope that kills you

that said the yorker to get Strauss and the bowling from Zaheer afterwards was sensational

We desperately need a big hitter at 5-6-7. Colly ain't that


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Delboy on February 27, 2011, 05:05:08 PM
What a Match!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on February 27, 2011, 05:05:55 PM
wow, just wow


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on February 27, 2011, 05:06:56 PM
Wow, can't say I'm disappointed with the result after all that. Brilliant game!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: amcgrath1uk on February 27, 2011, 05:10:26 PM
ZOMG what a finish.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on February 27, 2011, 05:10:39 PM
Amazing game.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on February 27, 2011, 05:10:54 PM
wow, just wow


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 27, 2011, 05:12:42 PM
Great finish.shahzad's six was awesome


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on February 27, 2011, 05:27:27 PM
interesting last ball in both innings. first india run short and have a run taken off their total, then they set the field to give up the single and the tie


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on February 27, 2011, 06:04:36 PM
Probably the right thing to do though - chances of saving a single when the non-striker's just going flat out to the keeper's end whatever are pretty remote.

Didn't really see what happened, but wondered if they made any effort to get back for two - unlikely obviously but there must be a chance. If Shazad knows he's safe for one he should just turn and go back, Swann's potentially in the way of a throw to the keeper and anything can happen.

Good game, but pretty much irrelevant I imagine. Pre-game hype of 'it doesn't get bigger than this' talking it up more than a little... I hate the World Cup, weeks of a pointless group stage and then whoever wins three in a row wins it. Bit embarrassing that they can't come up with something more worthwhile.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 02, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
Looking awful in the field again, sigh. Might well lose this, marv.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2011, 03:48:10 PM
England would be a far better team if they had a hitter like O'Brien in it. He must be eligible for us in something, surely?!

blinding hitting, spuerb stuff. We have nurdlers and nudgers coming in numbers 5-8.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
Taken the 1.16- looks too big



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 03:56:17 PM
ha taken 1.26 too

Dont even mind losing- at least the journeymen might be dropped!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 02, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
Might as well have some 1.5s too.... get the averaging ammo out.

Hussain think Ireland are favs with 7 to go, I would like to get Evs on that..


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 02, 2011, 04:29:23 PM
Yorkers please. ffs.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 04:30:22 PM
I liked when we had Collingwood and Yardy on at both ends, i would have paid to put my pads on and get out there!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 02, 2011, 04:37:15 PM
OK on @ 2.1 - can't turn that down, one wicket puhhhhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 02, 2011, 04:45:31 PM
wow just turned sky on and ireland are on fire!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 02, 2011, 04:46:36 PM
On at 11/4. Commentators are definitely a punters friend here.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Sick game, been good world cup to watch Englands games!

Hows Anderson bowling LENGTH when its last ball of over?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
No total is safe on these wickets unless you can bowl like Malinga, pace and yorkers

We've got nothing out of the ordinary to get them out


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 02, 2011, 04:51:16 PM
epic scences


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 04:51:37 PM
Really silly 2nd run, he was running on empty as well


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 02, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
Really silly 2nd run, he was running on empty as well

that   - great stumping thou - didnt even look


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:00:22 PM
Amazing chase. Dropped catches obv cost the game


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 02, 2011, 05:01:22 PM
Amazing chase. Dropped catches obv cost the game

Plus we should have got 345+


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2011, 05:01:42 PM
Amazing chase. Dropped catches obv cost the game

Yardy and supine bowling cost the game more than the catches

We can't take timely wickets on the pitches over there.





Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:02:30 PM
Well dropping O Brien was without doubt a game ending moment



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
£5m matched on BF at 1.01 and 1.02 when Ire hit 111-5!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:03:25 PM
TBF 1.01 was excellent value

Ireland hit 400s and even that was probably too short


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2011, 05:03:45 PM
Well dropping O Brien was without doubt a game ending moment



yes that's fair

On a wider basis we lack game changers in the batting and bowling, no?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
Yes without a doubt

Love him or hate him, Bopara has more talent and ability to change a match than Yardy. His 1 day bowling stats aint even bad, Strauss just dont bowl him so he dont get picked


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 02, 2011, 05:25:24 PM
Surely the England players are at least a little tired ? How long have they been on their travels for now, yeah I know that they aren't the only team but considering football managers complain about 2 games a week, surely playing this much cricket takes it toll ?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:29:14 PM
Without a doubt


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on March 02, 2011, 05:30:25 PM
Surely the England players are at least a little tired ? How long have they been on their travels for now, yeah I know that they aren't the only team but considering football managers complain about 2 games a week, surely playing this much cricket takes it toll ?

Flying back from Australia to England, then flying to India 3 or 4 days later was clearly insane.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on March 02, 2011, 05:33:53 PM
Not just tiredness though, the bowling tactics are just all wrong, steaming in and banging it on a length with a touch of width most times too is just begging to be hit.

Obvious really. Also, not obvious what Yardy brings as a bowler..or bat for that matter


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 02, 2011, 05:34:20 PM
I guess they know they made a mistake with arrangements and that's why the Ashes are being moved.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 02, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
Not just tiredness though, the bowling tactics are just all wrong, steaming in and banging it on a length with a touch of width most times too is just begging to be hit.

Obvious really. Also, not obvious what Yardy brings as a bowler..or bat for that matter


I don't agree with this mate. He has been an integral part of the one day set up over the past 18 months.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 02, 2011, 05:42:42 PM
tbf england have been shit at 50 over cricket for years now


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on March 02, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
The thing is, England should still find it pretty difficult to get knocked out - beating the Windies and Bangladesh will get us through even if we lose to SA.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:45:31 PM
Yardy avgs 20 with bat and over 50 with the ball. He has a first class bowling average of 77, he is a batsmen that isnt good enough to be in top 6 so they use him as a second spinner.

He shouldnt be anywhere near the squad let alone the first XI


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:50:28 PM
at county level he averages 40 with the ball and 24 with the bat in One days. Disastrous really


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 05:57:19 PM
                                              Bopara       Yardy
Batting
International One day                  29             20
County One day                         38              24

Bowling
International One day           10 @  33         20 @  52
County One day                  124 @ 26      108 @  40

Go figure why Yardy is seen as a bowler




Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 02, 2011, 06:07:37 PM
Bopara has scored 8.7% of his oneday runs in 6s, that compares to 1.8% Yardy, 2.9% Prior, 2.5% Bresnan- pretty obvious was 6,7,8 arent producing power.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 03, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
LOL at Ryanair

'Fly to the home of cricket for £9.98'  :D  Meaning Ireland obv

Doesn't miss a trick that guy.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ripple11 on March 03, 2011, 01:29:56 PM
LOL at Ryanair

'Fly to the home of cricket for £9.98'  :D  Meaning Ireland obv

Doesn't miss a trick that guy.

lol....excellent!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 10:42:13 AM
Fk off review system  >:(


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 10:44:23 AM
Fk off review system  >:(

Justice GTFO!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 11:01:58 AM
This is gonna be a tight finish for anyone not watching!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 06, 2011, 11:43:44 AM
anyone finding the 50 over format boring should just stick to watching england games


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
Another great game

What a horrendous pitch, but makes for a good one


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 06, 2011, 11:50:25 AM
no. 11's shitting his pants


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2011, 11:52:38 AM
lol, what a game!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Robert HM on March 06, 2011, 11:53:08 AM
Incredible!!!!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nosey-p on March 06, 2011, 11:53:33 AM
It's a funny old game


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 11:53:47 AM
GTFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: kinboshi on March 06, 2011, 11:53:50 AM
Wiiii


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Tractor on March 06, 2011, 11:54:51 AM
Wow, what an amazing game.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Robert HM on March 06, 2011, 11:55:01 AM
Not celebrating just relieved.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on March 06, 2011, 12:05:39 PM
Brilliant end


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 06, 2011, 12:36:49 PM
Just woke up and seen the result!

Hahahaha, it is pretty entertaining being an England cricket fan.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on March 06, 2011, 12:45:08 PM
Was great, can't help still feeling very negatively about Yardy - maybe he's OK for 20 20 but he doesn't add anything to this 50 over team.

What do you reckon after that game Martin ? Also, the stats Dubi posted are pretty damning - just don't think he's up to it.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 06, 2011, 03:30:35 PM
Was great, can't help still feeling very negatively about Yardy - maybe he's OK for 20 20 but he doesn't add anything to this 50 over team.

What do you reckon after that game Martin ? Also, the stats Dubi posted are pretty damning - just don't think he's up to it.

He was very poor today. I can't see we have many alternatives though.

As for the stats, it's difficult for a No.7/8 to have much of a batting average in one day cricket. Comparing him to Bopara is wrong, they aren't competing for the same spot in the team. His economy rate in one dayers is only 4.8, which is impressive for a slow bowler.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 04:07:48 PM
This Ireland v India game has got potential to get interesting...........


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 06, 2011, 04:11:49 PM
This Ireland v India game has got potential to get interesting...........

LOL forget that.....


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 07, 2011, 01:24:32 AM
Pieterson out of tournament. Flying home for hernia op.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on March 07, 2011, 01:36:21 AM
Hope Morgan is fit enough to replace him!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 07, 2011, 01:38:14 AM
Pieterson out of tournament. Flying home for hernia op.

Whoa fk we need him  :'(


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 07, 2011, 01:39:13 AM
Hope Morgan is fit enough to replace him!

I heard he has been netting with Middlesex, so hopefully that will be the case.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 08, 2011, 12:40:56 PM
NZ just gone mad, 95 runs off the last 5 overs!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TheChipPrince on March 08, 2011, 12:44:21 PM
85 off the last 3.2 overs, lol


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on March 08, 2011, 12:47:39 PM
Lulz - the Pakistan team all look like their cat's just been run over.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Matt50 on March 08, 2011, 12:48:08 PM
Taylor and Oram's partnership - 85 off 3.2 overs!!!

Last 5 overs of the innings - 100/2 and only 1 of those was a power play over!!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 08, 2011, 05:54:02 PM
Broad out as well. I would be seriously tempted to go for Rashid as his replacement.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 08, 2011, 09:08:08 PM
Just watching the NZ game on highlights... looks like the Pakistani boys have been spread trading again...  ;whistle;


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 08, 2011, 11:53:08 PM
I was just thinking the same watching the BBC highlights now... Inevitable these days when you watch Pakistan, particularly in a dead game with a massive audience like this. It's probably actually pretty easy to do these days without it looking too dodgy, as the margin for error is so small. Run up and a normal respectable length at someone like Taylor and you know it's going out of the park without you really doing anything wrong. Though they seem to have chucked in a load of full-bungers for good measure. (And Akmal's clanger earlier, wtf was that...) They basically didn't bowl a good ball in the last six overs.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 12:08:31 PM
Took 1.8 about England. If Tamin gets off to a flyer then i will go in again, fully expect Bangladesh to bowled out.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on March 11, 2011, 12:17:33 PM
Took 1.8 about England. If Tamin gets off to a flyer then i will go in again, fully expect Bangladesh to bowled out.

i was cursing not taking the 13/8 on bangladesh when we were for 7. The ball is doing a bit but the pitch is fairly flat apparently.

I think it'll be close.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
Looked low and slow to me- unless they get off to a flyer, they could capitulate- might have small bet under 100 and 125


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on March 11, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
England just having a shocker allround, what a mess. Looks like we are going to have beat West Indies in our final group game to progress to the quarter finals.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 01:14:27 PM
Gone in again at 15-8


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on March 11, 2011, 01:25:07 PM
Gone in again at 15-8

wicket, here we go.... glgl


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 03:52:48 PM
Should have emptied the clip on this one, really fancied massive collapse and market was so pro Bangladesh that i should have just kept clicking


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on March 11, 2011, 03:55:33 PM
Should have emptied the clip on this one, really fancied massive collapse and market was so pro Bangladesh that i should have just kept clicking

I'm going to get a laminated picture of Dubai to hang on my office wall.

Different class.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 11, 2011, 03:59:25 PM
What a catch!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: amcgrath1uk on March 11, 2011, 03:59:41 PM
What a catch!

+1

outstanding.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on March 11, 2011, 04:00:17 PM
Top stuff Dubai. Wish I had followed you.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
I did put them up at 1-5 v Ireland in fairness


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 04:02:40 PM
I was on before the start actually, but I only got 1.3 I think so I wished I waited........


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 04:21:42 PM
1.27 looks big now


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 11, 2011, 04:29:14 PM
Anderson been nobbled by pakistan?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: iwillwinlots on March 11, 2011, 04:33:57 PM
oops


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on March 11, 2011, 04:37:08 PM
jimmy anderson is going to owe you a wedge dubai


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 04:38:20 PM
 >:(


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 11, 2011, 04:39:45 PM
Still should have had more on- was right and made mistake not clicking- result irrelevant


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on March 11, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
Swann and Anderson are both complete wankers.

Ego far bigger than their talent levels suggest.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: iwillwinlots on March 11, 2011, 04:47:59 PM
Top stuff Dubai. Wish I had followed you.

:O


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on March 11, 2011, 04:49:34 PM
Anderson one of the worlds premier bowlers???? Can't even bowl at the stumps against tail enders of a bad side when protecting 30 runs. Criminal for you dubai, you should definitely ask him for a refund.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 11, 2011, 04:50:29 PM
Swann and Anderson are both complete wankers.

Ego far bigger than their talent levels suggest.

lol

National Hero's to complete wankers in 2 months?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on March 11, 2011, 04:51:02 PM
Top stuff Dubai. Wish I had followed you.

:O

Result is unimportant.

Won alot of Sklansky bucks.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 04:51:45 PM
Swann and Anderson are both complete wankers.

Ego far bigger than their talent levels suggest.

lol

National Hero's to complete wankers in 2 months?

Was gonna say that too, but I think Keith has probably done a chunk and is a touch mad  :'(


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Camel on March 11, 2011, 04:53:39 PM
Swann and Anderson are both complete wankers.

Ego far bigger than their talent levels suggest.

lol

National Hero's to complete wankers in 2 months?

Swann in particular reminds me of Ian Poulter.

Yes, they are good players, but horrible personality.

Only sportsmen like Warne, Tiger or Johnson can justify egos as big as Swann has got.

Thinks he's bigger than the game.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 11, 2011, 08:12:17 PM
I haven't seen it much from Anderson but Swann does seem really stroppy, a lot.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 11, 2011, 08:20:41 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 11, 2011, 08:39:41 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 11, 2011, 08:40:25 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.

me personaly i couldnt care less about 1 day cricket


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 11, 2011, 09:35:35 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.

Winning the Ashes in Aus and in the manner they did is a greater achievement than winning this would be, imo.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 09:42:33 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.

Winning the Ashes in Aus and in the manner they did is a greater achievement than winning this would be, imo.

Its not even close.

I love cricket but can't say I'm desperate to win this. The Ashes on the other hand..........


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 11, 2011, 09:43:56 PM
i get more pumped about a test series against Sri Lanka than i do about the world cup


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 11, 2011, 09:44:30 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.



Winning the Ashes in Aus and in the manner they did is a greater achievement than winning this would be, imo.
It was a great achievement but the Aussies were on the way down, if the 2005 Ashes heroes had gone there and won that would be the greatest achievement. They got badly beaten. England are a great cricket team now but winning the Cricket World Cup would be better than beating the worst Aussie side for 25 years.

lol, too long in the pub this afternoon hence bad spelling and punctuation, still think I'm right though, Australia were poor.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 09:45:00 PM
i think swann is a great lad

the team is just redic burnt out, i hope we dont qualify for the next round, give us a bit of time to get sorted out before the summer starts.

Big flaw here, winning the World Cup would be this group of players greatest achievement. What exactly are they getting sorted out for? If they win the world cup they can have the summer off.



Winning the Ashes in Aus and in the manner they did is a greater achievement than winning this would be, imo.
It was a great achievement but the Aussies were on the way down, if the 2005 Ashes heroes had gone there and won that would be the greatest achievement. They got badly beaten. Enaglnd are a great cricket team now but winning the Cricket World Cup would be a better than beating the worst Aussie side for 25 years.

Pfffffft, no


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on March 11, 2011, 09:54:02 PM
Test cricket and especially the ashes is more important than some 1 day tournament that's played just so the ICC fill there pockets with cash, majority of the england team have been away from home for nearly 5 months now playing cricket non-stop, no wonder the performances have been so sub standard.  few weeks ago everyone on here was loving england, 2 bad performances when they are obviously knackered from all the cricket they have played, and everyone jumps on there backs, to many results orientated followers.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 11, 2011, 09:56:26 PM
BTW I'd rather see Swann looking stroppy when things aren't going how he wants then have a smile on his face when he's not doing well or the team aren't, what's that about.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 11, 2011, 09:57:02 PM
BTW I'd rather see Swann looking stroppy when things aren't going how he wants then have a smile on his face when he's not doing well or the team aren't, what's that about.

I think he's a pretty good personality tbh, cricket players not often are.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: buzzharvey22 on March 11, 2011, 10:12:54 PM
the varience is bigger in odi's


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on March 12, 2011, 01:49:40 AM
Any test cricket>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One Day World Cup
ODI's throw up a good game every so often but are often dull. T20's for entertainment, tests for proper cricket.

Agree that they must be burnt out. Shame after winning T20 world cup and Ashes that this tournament didn't come when we were fresh but the Summer is more important. Maybe something to think about in future that we should have changed the ODI team more from the Test team.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: mondatoo on March 12, 2011, 06:12:36 PM
This.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9422762.stm


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: craigbetts on March 15, 2011, 10:51:02 AM
Ireland currently having a good crack at those nice South Africans.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Robert HM on March 16, 2011, 12:04:29 AM
Doing my head in.
Watching cricket from India
Listening to a Colombian singer
Singing Football World Cup song
About Africa
But supposed to be just for South Africa

ffs now La Bamba.............. good night


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 17, 2011, 03:14:48 PM
Another close finish in an England game, coming up.

I reckon they should let us through anyway, for the entertainment we provide.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Bongo on March 17, 2011, 04:02:53 PM
How close was that one? sigh


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 17, 2011, 04:04:56 PM
sickening. we could go out of the wc because trott's shirt was a bit too baggy


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: sweet potata! on March 17, 2011, 04:07:07 PM
gutted, but my 1st instinct was he deffo touched the rope.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 17, 2011, 04:11:38 PM
gutted, but my 1st instinct was he deffo touched the rope.



think most people's would've been but there didn't seem to be any clear shot

does anyone know the actual rule? I assume the benefit has to go to the batsman if there's a doubt, would seem harsh to give them out when not 100%


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:15:41 PM
gutted, but my 1st instinct was he deffo touched the rope.



think most people's would've been but there didn't seem to be any clear shot

does anyone know the actual rule? I assume the benefit has to go to the batsman if there's a doubt, would seem harsh to give them out when not 100%

Does seem like they need to consider rules for this sort of thing, as margins are so fine now that they're using cameras on everything. Agree that benefit of doubt on whether it's a wicket or not should generally go to the batsman - but there's also doubt about whether it's a six or not isn't there...? And that can't be proved either. Maybe it should be a dot ball or something.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:20:25 PM
Wtf is that - "That's worked perfectly", "Correct decision" says David Lloyd - as he gets given not out in accordance with the on field decision.

But the replay showed it was out...! So how's it worked perfectly and is the correct decision..?

Also, didn't he give him not out because he thought he'd nicked it - suspect he did. In which case the fact that it's "only clipping" the top of middle shouldn't matter.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Josedinho on March 17, 2011, 04:23:43 PM
So want this competition to end but is v exciting watching England.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 17, 2011, 04:23:57 PM
Wiiiii.

All aboard the England rollercoaster.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 17, 2011, 04:24:02 PM
yeah, huge problem with the review system that one. he's clearly out, everyone can see it but not out is the correct decision

we should at least get given another review

and gtfi swanny. what a delivery. game on


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 17, 2011, 04:25:49 PM
Yesss great catch.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:29:56 PM
Yeah brilliant - you wouldn't choose to have Tremlett there then would you...


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: henrik777 on March 17, 2011, 04:30:26 PM
Wtf is that - "That's worked perfectly", "Correct decision" says David Lloyd - as he gets given not out in accordance with the on field decision.

But the replay showed it was out...! So how's it worked perfectly and is the correct decision..?

Also, didn't he give him not out because he thought he'd nicked it - suspect he did. In which case the fact that it's "only clipping" the top of middle shouldn't matter.

The replay was inconclusive although most people would say he hit the rope. When you touch the rope it's a boundary and always has been. Benefit of doubt always goes to the batsmen.

 There was a great catch a year or 2 back where the fielder caught it realised he would go over the rope so threw it up returned to the field and caught it which is fine.

Sandy


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 17, 2011, 04:31:36 PM
Windies only need 19 from their point of view, a tie and England can still through if Bangladesh lose to South Africa.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: iwillwinlots on March 17, 2011, 04:33:27 PM
wooooooooooooooo


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Longy on March 17, 2011, 04:34:56 PM
Get in!!!!!!!!

We are so good to watch, yet so mediocre.



Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 17, 2011, 04:35:06 PM
watching england is amazing. wiiiiiiii


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Wtf is that - "That's worked perfectly", "Correct decision" says David Lloyd - as he gets given not out in accordance with the on field decision.

But the replay showed it was out...! So how's it worked perfectly and is the correct decision..?

Also, didn't he give him not out because he thought he'd nicked it - suspect he did. In which case the fact that it's "only clipping" the top of middle shouldn't matter.

The replay was inconclusive although most people would say he hit the rope. When you touch the rope it's a boundary and always has been. Benefit of doubt always goes to the batsmen.

 There was a great catch a year or 2 back where the fielder caught it realised he would go over the rope so threw it up returned to the field and caught it which is fine.

Sandy

yeah I know the rules (Laws) but there isn't actually anything in them that says the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt. My point was that the batsman gets the benefit of the doubt on wicket decisions because it's right that you have to prove the wicket. But by the same token and in the same spirit you should have to prove the six, otherwise the fielder in that case should be the one who is innocent till proven guilty, and it should be the fielding side in that case should get the benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Bongo on March 17, 2011, 04:36:57 PM
Wtf is that - "That's worked perfectly", "Correct decision" says David Lloyd - as he gets given not out in accordance with the on field decision.

But the replay showed it was out...! So how's it worked perfectly and is the correct decision..?

Also, didn't he give him not out because he thought he'd nicked it - suspect he did. In which case the fact that it's "only clipping" the top of middle shouldn't matter.

There's a margin of error with the predictive thingy and so you can't be sure it's hitting when it's just clipping, thus no howler.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:40:18 PM
Wtf is that - "That's worked perfectly", "Correct decision" says David Lloyd - as he gets given not out in accordance with the on field decision.

But the replay showed it was out...! So how's it worked perfectly and is the correct decision..?

Also, didn't he give him not out because he thought he'd nicked it - suspect he did. In which case the fact that it's "only clipping" the top of middle shouldn't matter.

There's a margin of error with the predictive thingy and so you can't be sure it's hitting when it's just clipping, thus no howler.

It is a howler though if he only originally gave it not out because he thought he'd nicked it, which is what I was wondering. If he gave it not out on height then the "only clipping" thing is fair enough I guess. But if he didn't even consider the height because he thought he'd hit it, then "only clipping" should be enough to give it out on review once you've proved that he didn't in fact hit it.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 17, 2011, 04:45:31 PM

It is a howler though if he only originally gave it not out because he thought he'd nicked it, which is what I was wondering. If he gave it not out on height then the "only clipping" thing is fair enough I guess. But if he didn't even consider the height because he thought he'd hit it, then "only clipping" should be enough to give it out on review once you've proved that he didn't in fact hit it.

agree with that. plus forget the margin of error on the technology, there were enough tv angles all of which showed it clearly hitting, no need to use technology to make a decision on height when it's that clear


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:48:36 PM

It is a howler though if he only originally gave it not out because he thought he'd nicked it, which is what I was wondering. If he gave it not out on height then the "only clipping" thing is fair enough I guess. But if he didn't even consider the height because he thought he'd hit it, then "only clipping" should be enough to give it out on review once you've proved that he didn't in fact hit it.

agree with that. plus forget the margin of error on the technology, there were enough tv angles all of which showed it clearly hitting, no need to use technology to make a decision on height when it's that clear

Yeah, it's very generous to the umpires with the margin of error as it is here.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Moskvich on March 17, 2011, 04:49:45 PM
Treadwell's an interesting chap isn't he. Must be inspirational in the dressing room.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on March 17, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
Treadwell's an interesting chap isn't he. Must be inspirational in the dressing room.

You don't want to many big ego's in the dressing room i would have thought!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Dubai on March 17, 2011, 05:02:31 PM
Good god i done it in and woke up fancying England- anyone who was betting on betfair would have seen have pro England the market was and i assume would have done it in


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 17, 2011, 05:06:05 PM
Lol WTF again  ;D


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Bongo on March 17, 2011, 07:30:34 PM

It is a howler though if he only originally gave it not out because he thought he'd nicked it, which is what I was wondering. If he gave it not out on height then the "only clipping" thing is fair enough I guess. But if he didn't even consider the height because he thought he'd hit it, then "only clipping" should be enough to give it out on review once you've proved that he didn't in fact hit it.

agree with that. plus forget the margin of error on the technology, there were enough tv angles all of which showed it clearly hitting, no need to use technology to make a decision on height when it's that clear

Yeah, it's very generous to the umpires with the margin of error as it is here.

It's a bit like Ian Bell against India (I think), everyone thought he was out but the rules said no because he'd been hit so far from the stumps. In that case it was hitting the middle of middle...


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 18, 2011, 01:11:05 PM
Jade Dernbach called up to replace Shahzad. Interesting choice.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: KarmaDope on March 18, 2011, 01:38:01 PM
Very interesting. Never actually seen him play but he seems to be doing ok at Surrey.

Although including Dernbach means we may as well call the England 1st XI the South Africa B team.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 18, 2011, 01:45:15 PM
Never even heard of him. :-X


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 19, 2011, 09:37:11 AM
one more wicket this morning and we're officially through. I'm gonna count my chickens and say wiiiiiiiiiiii


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 19, 2011, 10:09:07 AM
It looks like we play Sri Lanka next Saturday.  gg


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 19, 2011, 12:27:20 PM
Seen Dernbach quite a lot, a steady fast medium, took a lot of wickets on flat pitches on the recent A tour to the West Indies. A great trier too

got to feel a bit sorry for Woakes who went to Aus and can bat too

All academical though, Sri Lanka in Colombo is a tough ask against Murali and Mendis with Malinga at the death


To me SL and Pak look the dangerous sides here. SL are well balanced and Pak, if their heads are right, have a lot of wicket taking bowlers


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 19, 2011, 12:34:14 PM
It looks like we play Sri Lanka next Saturday.  gg

no worries. if this world cup's taught us anything it's that we don't want to be drawn against minnows


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 19, 2011, 12:36:09 PM
Looks like Pakistan are setting up the ultimate grim on the bookmakers now as we speak v the Aussies  :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 20, 2011, 04:30:11 PM
Q-Fs: 1: WI v Pak; 2: Ind v Aus; 3: SA v NZ; 4: SL v Eng.


S-Fs: Winner QF3 v Winner QF4. Winner QF1 v Winner QF2.


We are backing who at what price and why?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Pelham Boy on March 20, 2011, 04:54:50 PM
QF1. Pakistan. The most difficult of the QF's to call imo, been v impressed with Pakistan's bowling attack though, that just gives them the edge.

QF2. India. Have been disappointed with India, they have been let down by their middle order batting, and poor fielding, they wont get away with it against Australia. Having said that, i think they will have far too much for what is a pretty poor Australian outfit, one dimensional bowling attack which might have blown away the minnows but Sachin, Sehwag, Ghambir is totally different. Too many of their batsmen out of form too.

QF3. South Africa. Comfortably.

QF4. Sri Lanka. I think we are capable of beating anyone, with Pieterson and Broad we would have had more of a chance, but they are very difficult to beat in their own backyard. We really need to get off to a flyer with bat, it's going to be very difficult in the middle overs against their spinners.

South Africa look the most likely winners to me at this stage. Now they have a balanced bowling attack they could finally lose the chokers tag.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: nirvana on March 21, 2011, 01:38:40 AM
Pretty much agree with all that Martin except we will beat SL obv


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 21, 2011, 01:59:19 AM
Pretty much agree with all that Martin except we will beat SL obv

I want us to to do it the hard way, beat SL at home and then ship v India in the Final. Obv down to the last ball in each game  ;D


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Matt50 on March 24, 2011, 09:27:18 AM
Yardy suffering from depression and returning home

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9434379.stm


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on March 24, 2011, 09:44:58 AM
Yardy suffering from depression and returning home

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9434379.stm

He's depressed?

At least by playing in the team he doesn't have to watch them - that's depressing.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Madone on March 25, 2011, 02:27:41 PM
good to see a full house there watching even though Bangladesh are not playing.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: sweet potata! on March 25, 2011, 02:51:13 PM
NZ putting the squeeze on SA at the mo 121-5 needing another 101, game on!


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: AndrewT on March 25, 2011, 03:08:57 PM
Bet on NZ when they were 4, but laid half of it off because I am a life nit.

Curse my nittiness.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: gatso on March 25, 2011, 04:03:24 PM
quite an impressive job there from SA. pretty tricky to lose that after the way they bowled. the blackcaps could win this tournament by default if they keep playing teams who've bet against themselves


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 26, 2011, 11:36:25 AM
Morgan only dropped the three times then


can we get to 250, give us a chance on a slow low pitch?


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: 77dave on March 26, 2011, 11:46:47 AM
both teams currently 5/6


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 26, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
out now, england have a great chance here


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: smashedagain on March 26, 2011, 12:44:39 PM
england certainly dug themselves out of a hole. good effort but think its 15 runs too short. tbh win this and it means a final gtd


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 26, 2011, 12:47:15 PM
yeah - couple of early wickets to get tehm off to a slow start would be nice here


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on March 26, 2011, 12:51:10 PM
Slight advantage to SL, but anything can happen. Gonna be exciting anyway  :)


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 26, 2011, 01:51:13 PM
heads have gone down - we will get towzed at this rate


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on March 26, 2011, 02:07:11 PM
we dont want this - embarrasing in the field


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: ACE2M on April 01, 2011, 10:15:49 AM
6/4 on Sri Lanka is huge Valooo. Indians seriously don't give a toss about the final, beating Pakistan was enough for them.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Matt50 on April 01, 2011, 10:38:56 AM
6/4 on Sri Lanka is huge Valooo. Indians seriously don't give a toss about the final, beating Pakistan was enough for them.

Definately.  Sri Lankans have looked the better outfit throughout the tournament - Indians still under huge pressure.
Should be about evens i reckon.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TheChipPrince on April 01, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
8/5 too with SB


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: outragous76 on April 01, 2011, 10:55:05 AM
6/4 on Sri Lanka is huge Valooo. Indians seriously don't give a toss about the final, beating Pakistan was enough for them.

the exact words of my shop keeper last night - they def dont expect to win. They need to get thru SL top 4 quickly to stand any chance


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: smashedagain on April 01, 2011, 11:16:51 AM
I got a feeling sachin is gonna pull off one of the best innings in world cup history. But abso agree SL have been best all round team of the tourney. As long as it is close and a good game WTF do English guys have to look forward to in any sport


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2011, 11:26:54 AM
Sri Lanka have a lot of injuries

I want to back them, but can't do it.

India for me are worthy favourites


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Baron on April 02, 2011, 02:09:11 PM
Sri Lanka have a lot of injuries

I want to back them, but can't do it.

India for me are worthy favourites

Tough to see India winning it after that


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on April 02, 2011, 02:10:05 PM
Sri Lanka have a lot of injuries

I want to back them, but can't do it.

India for me are worthy favourites

Tough to see India winning it after that

Coin flip still imo........


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 02, 2011, 02:10:14 PM
Should be a tight game. Much will depend on whether Murali is on one leg or not

Fantastic stuff from Jayawardene


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: The Baron on April 02, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
6/4 on Sri Lanka is huge Valooo. Indians seriously don't give a toss about the final, beating Pakistan was enough for them.

True. My world cup ends everytime we smash Pakistan. Everything else is irrelevant.


Title: Re: cricket world cup thread
Post by: Woodsey on April 02, 2011, 03:03:24 PM
LOL silence.

I was undecided about who I wanted to win, think I do want SL to do it now.