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Watch Cos, Eames, Lewis et al on the first episode here.

[ ] thanks for the mention

Cheers Alex.

Des and Troy looking good in that vid.

just watching it now do you only own one hoodie george .....

In my next TV appearance Im not wearing one mate

is it hanging on the back of your chair....

i take it they aint gonna bother with the grand prix on telly then? just higher buy inns?

New episode. Camel's homage with 10 2 is caught on film

Also did they re-film the flops cos every single one has the same bloke's hands with the same chips in the pot (white hands even when the dealer is Asian!)

Lol they must have done

Yeah, tis quite obvious. The pots don't always have the right amount in them, and sometimes they're in a completely different place!

I've played with that Sinem Melin a couple of times, she told the table "I doesn't need to get lucky to win"

I was wondering if she was a high stakes pro?

Well, prob more likely than an English teacher.

I lol'd at Fraser bellamy's tanking with air.

the second best player in DTD.

he told me that he forgot he had cards. was trying to work out how much he had spent on sherry the massage girl.

MILLION.

I LUV THE PARTS WHERE TRUMPER MENTIONED ABOUT COS HAT.

" THATS CHINESE FRANKIE, HES A LEGEND AT DTD "

HE MAKE MY DAY..

 ;thankyou; ;thankyou; ;thankyou; ;thankyou;

Thank me Franky I champion you everywhere I go !


WITH MY HEAD ISIT CAPITALS!?

No frankie, thank me for being much better than titbeam at poker in order to show the world

I was on the table behind hatless!!!

IS IT

I won the comp in the background beep be be beep beeeep!

pass the ice

Stop it beanie!

that's what he she said..............

Pretty com. In the hand where Will Fry calls from bb with 56, cuts to flop and the hands are already face up as if all in lol

dealer with ridic sideburns at 23:50ish!

with AQ you're not gonna know where you're at. If it comes ace high someone could have AK, if it comes Qhigh some could have an overpair.

lol trumper is funny in the commentary

Argh, hope they sort out the flop cam next time they do this. I'm noticing it every single hand now lol. Even something as all in cards magically change the angle they're at.

I find it amusing an effort has been made to make the pot look different for each flop - but it never matches what it actually looks like during the hand lol

Part True Smashed...Sherry did cost me a fortune in rub downs....but sometimes one has to dwell to give the impression its  not always raising with air  :)

hey fraser nice to hear from you. 2nd post ever. what an honour. guess your first one must have been on shaun kings AK fold aftermath thread. guess it went a bit like this                        WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII.
gl this weekend. win it or bin it (bit like my motorbike style)

No Mate...i only joined yesterday   :)...My first post was to say Id take a % of Raymondoo in The MC...as it happens Im looking to do a bit of staking this weekend and at the MC if you can think of any " value investments "...please let me know mate...if not See you on Saturday...In the meantime ive got to pacify the girlfriend...

Peace....Fraser  x

wtf fraser. at the last deepstack you were only saying that you just went on holiday with a girl friend and came back single. less than a month on you are balls deep in fanny again and more to the point you have got that in love you are having to pacify things with her. lol

  Well   ....when I say "girlfriend"...what I really mean to say is a women...with female organs...that happens to be quite friendly...and yes Im hoping to run pretty deep...prior to the tournament   ;)

Jason Im going to send you an email to your private now

Jason and Fraser ITT

..Hi There Rupinder...I know weve sat at the same table before...but not formally introduced...so ill say hello..
.Are you suggesting my self and Jas look like those two older looking football has beens  ?   :)

Interesting question and not trolling:

Is it ok just to tank to try and save face when essentially it wastes time? I never do this.

Hi mate- been a while. I remember sharing a table with you quite someone the first deepstack you won. Pretty good record you have at DTD

I never do it either but sometimes wish I did. With my image it probs don't matter

thinking more like a couple of old pervs who are heading for a fall from grace pretty  soon lol

..Thanks Rupinder...decent run at the moment but poker can be very humbling...ups and downs..,variance etc..Good Luck To you in forthcoming events ...In answer to the question about tanking ? Who knows whats right or wrong ? Sometimes circumstances dictate your actions...I try to be respectful to everybody...and believe thats good for Karma( in my opinion)...but then again poker is very much like life...Subjective  !  So who really Knows ?

LOL at Simon Trumper. Really struggled with the feature table as I could hardly pick up my cards. I wasn't the only one who struggled with it. There was no felt so you just had to attempt to pick your cards up on the flat glass, most people could manage as they where flicking the corner of the cards up with there nails, I sure ever have any nails. I reckon it would be better for the cardroom manager to try and provide a table that is a bit more player friendly then mock someone who struggles because the feature table is poor, surprisingly nothing was mentioned about how Will Fry struggled loads to look at his hand when he couldn't pick his cards up in the AK V JJ hand vs Fraser Bellamy and had to try multiple times to see his cards. Really feel like I was singled out to be made to look amateurish to make the episode more interesting and pretty steaming about it. Maybe I'm just terribly inexpeirenced and a bit clueless, FML.

LOL havent seen it yet, but already looking forward to this.

Ur an online player obv. It's tough trying to look at one card let alone two!

I can vouch for you Mondatoo, they were hard to pick up. Pretty sure it came across that way anyway. I have a mobile face apparently, it's all good.

yeah they were ridiculously stupidly hard to pick up off that shiny slippery surface.

You had a nice hat on though!

+1

I love the place but that table is a joke. Absolute nightmare to pick up and as Cos pointed out if people are daft enough to hold their cards high enough you can see them in the reflection. On an FT it is something you can learn to live with pretty quick, But as a permanent feature table in a comp it is a ball ache imo.

Is the latest episode available on the net anywhere? not on dtd site yet.

sigh ignore.

This post has got much more bitter since you edited it!

Don't worry monda, just remember- good players get to play in card rooms, bad ones have to work there.

I think this is interesting too.

Snapfolding basically tells the whole table you were bluffing or raising light. It's almost like just turning your cards over and saying "you caught me I was bluffing". Obviously this is not information you want to give away. At the same time taking time for image and tanking when you know you're passing is essentially just wasting time. I try and find a grey area, not taking much time but giving a speech or something or taking a few seconds.

Yeah but when I bet I usually have a decision anyway and know what I'm going to do.

If you are competent you should already know which you are going to do, saving face merely wastes time.

Someone who raise tank folds is more likely to have me jam on them than someone who opens and snap mucks ready for the next hand.

Only poor players are going to give more credit to a raise tank fold than just a raise fold imo.

exactly and what a most live players beanie?!

When is show 4 gonna be up?

It's not like they adjust to you raising light anyway.


I'd rather get 2/3/4 more hands in than waste time pretending im making a big fold with my Acey Queeney. They have no idea of the ranges i'll be folding/calling with anyway so who cares.

I'd much rather raise fold and show what for me is a relatively strong hand like Acey Tenney Sooooted in late position or something. Even when you know the guy is a dirty nit and you can never call AJ or w/e but it kinda reminds the table you are allowed to be dealt a hand.


Personally I find live so dumb and slow that i'll do anything to not slow the game down. It seems like certain live players just take pride in playing as few hands as possible so they have the least chance to lose their chips. Idiots everywhere!

you sure win live ;)

I make winning plays live, tis impossible to win though ldo.

CEPT FOR ROUND OF EACH TOURNIES.



Regards,
TITTYBEAM
DTD Round of Each Champion. xx

Bitter ? What have I got to be bitter about ? At first I just posted LOL sick rubs but that made it seem that I thought it was a joke or funny but I didn't, Simon's entitled to his opinion and I've said what I had to say on the matter.

how do you two get away with slagging live players off with an amount of live cashes   between you that lildave can still manage to count on one hand. yet i keep proving it time and time again yet get hung drawn and quartered just for calling the dtd regs 90% idiots....noticed the winner of this months dtd deepstack seemed to be in the 90% grouip again

That is such a random stat it barely warrants a response. What do you constitute as a reg? where does 90% come from? the guy who won it was an idiot i agree, but I don't think he is even close to being a DTD reg. I play at DTD a fair bit having moved up from London where I played at The Gutshot and I can honestly say that the regs at DTD are a much nicer breed of poker player and all this swearing etc is not a common occurrence. I also think that the TDs could of done more but that has already been discussed.

(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j145/Jvchequer/944164-troll_obvious_super.jpg)

Sigh this might take a few goes, i've already typed one line out and it sounded rude. Rude is not what i'm aiming for, you know my valet skills are top notch Jason (at least I have something to fall back on :p )


live tournaments are full of people who put maybe half a second of their lifetime into thinking what they do at the poker table and why (this is generous). People 'get a feeling' or 'don't like that hand' etc etc Logic and reasoning are thrown out the window. Yet if they time it well and win some flips they are definitely a good winning poker player and must be respected right?! (No, one tournament = nothing, I won a round of each at DTD ffs that's a joke I don't play 4 cards...)


Young online professionals sit there breaking hands down to the n'th degree, rinse repeat.  Playing hundreds of thousands of hands, seeing flops that happen live and everyone goes 'wow how did 3 of the same card come out' or 'wow AKQhhh what an action board' (sure is an action board ....)  If I am playing an online tournament session I will regularly register for ~30 MTT's in a night. That's over 2 years worth of DTD 300s in one night (and the field sizes are much bigger and must stronger).

There can be ZERO argument that the young online players are more skill full and more technically competent.

There can also be ZERO argument, that the relative standards of live to online at the same buy-in level cannot be compared. I see better play regularly in 5-10$ freezeouts online than I do in 300-1k tournaments live.

Using the hendon mob as a way to base your opinion of someone is just naive, it shows a complete lack of understanding of the variance in tournament poker in general let alone the lack of long run that live poker achieves compared to online. Also considering that donkaments are top heavy structures and if you are looking for your best ROI in the long run that's what you should be aiming for gives an explanation as to why young players don't have a brilliant list of min cashes on the all important hendon mob.


If we go by this 'only live tournaments are important and live mincashes are greater than making your living online' thought process we'd still be thinking that Hellmuth was the best player in the world (instead of just him thinking that).



Out of interest Jason what record is more impressive to you?

Hellmuth having 11 bracelets from before poker was a competitive game or Jake Cody winning both an EPT and WPT in todays games?


I'd also love to know how many of the big names could have made money in the last few years without being backed, and how many will continue to think that they can create an edge in fields that are increasingly getting tougher and tougher.

What would the older generation have thought to the Cheong bust out hand 6 bet jamming Ax 3 handed with ICM implications? nowadays the 4th and 5th bets preflop are standard, we really aren't even playing the same game as when Hellmuth etc was winning all the money.


Do you know see why I feel within my right to talk about live players as if they are terrible?

They are terrible, therefore I do......

Pmsl Andrew. That's what I wanted. I was bored and getting frustrated coz the kids have more bath water on the floor than in the bath. I'm on life guard duty and mum just bollocked me for being on here. Only laughing at myself. Appologise most profusely for the troll

No probs, I get easily tilted. lol  :)up

Lol Jason you sparked all that!

Loved the comment about even lildave being able to count our cashes on his fingers!

And as it turns out Andrew I was at the first ukipt in galway in 2010 when a young Internet type came to me about advice. He had played 16 live tourneys that year with just 1 cash which he was frustrated about. He noticed that I cashed a high % and sort my advice. I told him that online and live should have totally different names and not be both called poker. They are like chalk and cheese. I told him to stay at home killing Internet poker because that's the best way to maximise roi.  It's a good job he never listened to me because 4 weeks later that young man was at the ept in France and Jake Cody burst onto the live scene

sick help me next please sir.

I have played at least 18 (could be more now don't really wanna keep counting) DTD 300's and not made day two yet.


TEACH ME PLS


I've tried limp back raising aces, i've tried 3bet tank folding AQs with 15 bigs effective 'cos I didn't wanna race'. I've tried just folding to 4 bigs, how do you wins pls halp me

Yes alex. Dave will know I'm on one and won't be upset. I while back I was looking out for this bird at Dtd who kept getting results. Tina ainsworth was not who I expected her to be. Not for one minute do I think she is an excellent player but results speak. John Exley bubbled this weekend and seems to cash/go close everywhere he goes. Once again John won't have the mathematical side of the game that your average net guy has but he understands his opponents. He knows you can't bluff idiots coz they ain't folding shit and consequently bets his hands to the max coz idiots ain't folding. Playing poker is all about adapting to each situation and understanding what your opponent is doing or wants you to do. Until you understand this and give the weaker players the credit they deserve for being weaker players then they are gonna keep donking with plays that you are too smart to understand. ABC for the win against idiots is the way to beat em and you ain't ever out playing em. Looking at all the people who cashed this weekend and hand on heart there will not be more than a hand full of players that any of the blondes on here who played are better than but once again so many blondes failed again. 10 % get paid and they pay the top  people because they finished in the top ten % and not because they thought they were the best players there

Errrr. Sorry blondes that reads wrong . Meant bet there ain't more than a few who cashed who each player here is not better than. Point being you know you are better players than 90% of the Dtd regs but go out n prove it by getting results

Jason u make less and less sense with every post

what i'm trying to say george is no matter how good you actually are if you dont adapt to playing your opponents then you aint gonna win. you cant out play weak players so often have to remove your poker brain and accept that to beat bingo players then a basic ABC strategy is the best option. not trying to tell your granny how to suck eggs on here but saw a guy post about pub poker and everyone had a pop at it. the difference in pub poker and the £300 deepstack is minimal. most of the field go out with top pair top kicker crying "cooler" or "some idiot out drew me". the dtd deepstack is so successful because 1. its the first weekend of the month and most muggles just got their monthly wages so can afford it (the mid month deepstack in sept flopped because most people are broke a week after payday). 2. they do not need to take a day off work coz its at a weekend..... imo you dont need to start playing poker at an advanced level until you play the gukpt which starts thurs/fri and costs a lot more. also you have less on line qualifiers for the gukpt and these online qualifiers are most of the value in the monte carlo

[X] young and naive cody approaches jason for advice
[X] ignores jason's advice and wins 1.1m in a few months

Cliffs -

[ ] jason gives good advice

orly?

Jason I haven't even read what anyone's written cos I'm at the pub watching the game but I just wanted to say, you're awesome.

U think players like john exley adjust? They just win every flip, run like god and cooler everyone. Pretty sure this requires little skill

results speak for themselves though george ;)

Im with Cos, you're still awesome :)

lol bollox...

;tightend;

i think you are being a little unfair to john. i did not say he adjusts because he does not. he plays the same basic style that gets him plenty of cashes  at dtd. he does not need to adjust  his play. he plays good cards and is usually on the right end of coolers coz he plays premium hands. however he adjusts his style to the dtd game. if you watch john who has an equally impressive record in £20 re buys he plays a different game fully understanding in fast structure nugget comps you need to play differently. this is were he adjusts, to the different comps .its a style that sees him cash very often. a style that is emplyed by a lot of regular cashers. final tables in dtd's deepstack are often made up of a least a couple of guys who you know 100% they aint made 1 bluff all weekend or 1 4 bet

<3 jason herbert

Jason I've played John. Lovely guy. Not good at poker. I did see him flop 8 sets, get aces vs kings 3 times so yeh results speak for themselves

You saw him get the aces and kings and sets coz idiots paid him. And a pair of kings is z minimum requirement for him to put his chips in with. You would not have seen him donk chips off trying to bluff an idiot, you won't have seen him making hero calls with ace high and Wont have seen him throwing away decent hands when he was behind. I think he has a winning style for the game. Similar to 2 time winner Colin young

Make the man a mod.

lol - mbn to wait for AA/KK

I give up

rotflmfao

Owned!

Just give up from the start in the future George, thats what I've learnt.

Don't give up George. I have been  persuaded before that my view maybe wrong. Everyone knows there are guys who play like John. And you see em get paid time and time again. Like outrageous said mbn to wait for cards but if you get paid off when you get em then players with johns style get results. I once got down to 5 handed in a side event at the English open. I was short stacked and a deal was suggested. I could not believer ears when an equal chop was suggested leaving a grand to pay for. I noticed that everyone was older than me and I was on my 40's. I asked how many bluffs these guys had made on the last 2 days and it was less than 5 between them. I went into moorman mode and steam rolled to the title. I just feel that their style gets the results at Dtd. I ain't seen too many Internet types score big at Dtd since Luke marsh won the anniversary cup a couple of years back. He is on line and would back him heads up against 99% of people as he is from Scunthorpe and has made hundreds of thousands in the 4 years he has been playing. Another kid from scunny has won the Sunday millions and I'm told was in the top 50 mtt players on stars last year (Loschief) but I would still back John over this kid because I see them both regular and John cashes and chris does not. My mate simondtd also from scunny has an ftops final table and Sunday million final table but has spent £100 grand on live events (since coming to wsop 2009 and was at my wedding) and never cashed once, infact only made day 2 twice. I ain't for one minute suggesting that on line players are worse because I know that they are infinitely better players but unless you change your style and adapt to your average opponent then you are not going to win

So basically what you're trying to say is, you won a side event when you were the shortstack 5 handed?

WPWP.

By the way Jase, been meaning to ask, you ever been to Marakech?

just saying that ordinarily i'm the nittiest of nits at the table but you have to change styles to defeat opponents. a little bit of sick would come up my throat everytime i 4 bet light. it felt like cheating lol

Christ, I'm actually starting to see Jason's point of view FML. Someone restore the faith please.

wait till i get that  frigging count down game down loaded and working properly. then you gonna be in a whole world of pain. i remember richard whitely and carol vordaman.

Surely anyone good adjusts without thinking anyway? Not sure if you mean the word good when you are describing people that dont adjust

I know it's your thing you do to wind people up jason, but live tourneys are the fucking scratch on the surface. there are hundreds of guys who make more money from poker every year than anyone who wins a couple of big tourneys, Jake had a sick year in '10 but I promise you there were minimum 50/60 people in the UK who made more money than him at poker last year, and you wont recognize 70% of them or be able to name 20% of them. And I'm put a decent chunk of money on the bet that you prolly have a better hendon mob than most of them as well.

But please ignore all this and continue as you are :)

Never leave me, ever

50/60? really?

there are two in my own village dave. luke marsh and chris saleh. i cant wait for the kids to start school full time so i can sleep all day play with em when they get up and get in from school and then play on line pokers all night. on line pokers sounds so easy. do you think the bots i used when you were in junoir school will work on ft and stars.

yes, probably more tbh

defo. glglglgl althoguh you could just click fold urself ?

Sound reasoning and I agree

pmsl. i do make myself  look stupid sometimes. wont back him coz he is from scunny but coz he is a bit good. i love scunny united but would not even fancy their chances against the cod heads atm and thats saying something

I find this hard to believe Jake won $1.7m approx in 2010 in live donkaments. Obv it is a little less with buyins.

I am not arguing that I know who these ppl are or that I am some fountain of knowledge of high stakes poker in the uk.

What the hell are these ppl playing making more than 1 million quid in a year at poker!

All playing gus Hansen obv!

i know jake sold a lot of his action for the wpt title and i backed eames that month as well because as they pointed out september was very bust etc. i have no idea if he had any ept action sold but imo there is no nicer guy in the game than jake other than yoyo of course . everyone on here knows mr keys and many had a piece of his action but to believe this claim by dave maybe a little bit high. all i know is keys cody lewis et al are crossing over between the live and internet game with ease. they are the modern day legends. dave never bull shits so i believe he could list at least 30 uk on line kids who made a million this year

If there were 60 English kids who made £1m profit from online poker in 2010 il get a job in McDonalds for a year

i bet you could find 200 who said they did

Jason have you seen the hand where Cody 5or 6bets preflop with Ten Four offsuit? I was dealing to Keys in the WSOPE main event (brag) and he 6bet with A2spades. I don't have any history of similar hands from Toby Lewis but I'm sure there are some and he's certainly in the same league. Now, had these moves not worked then history might be completely different. You might be putting Jake in the same category as the other internet guys that you say never cash in live tournaments. It's winning or losing that key race or severel races that makes you Jake Cody or John Smith. Like Dave said, there might be 60 nobodies in the UK who have made the same amount (even if its only 20 - thats still 20 people that dont have codys record of live tournaments but have the same ability just havent had the luck that cody has in live comps).

So next time you see a live player busting out a comp trying to bluff an "idiot" (your words) with T4, before calling him an idiot, remember that its moves like that, that worked for cody et al, that made these guys who they are now.

I havent worded this post very well but I hope my point comes across alright.

a lot of what peolpe spout about winners is jealousy alex. james mitchel had the same when he won the irish open. these guys play out of this world to win these tournies and are at the top of the game. jake obv thought he could get this guy to lay a hand down. obv he aint gonna with kings. but his opponent iwas of the highest calibre and capable of laying a hand down. in dtd you average player will look down at a pair of two's. see a flop of AKQ and still call to the river to hit a two. stop trying to out play these idiots with fancy moves and then your chances  of cashing become much higher.

Shaun's AK hand just been on

what channel and is there a +1?

info tv plus 1. Bellamy lied and told Shaun he had AQ lol

anywhere i can watch this? I was watching it here but doesnt seem to be updating?

http://www.dusktilldawnpokerclub.com/mediacentre.php

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Hello, please can we have the last episode?

Seems an unnecessary cliffhanger..

Idk who earns wat exactly but Id take a bet that 50 people in the UK made more than £650k from poker last year, not speficially british or young or online just playing poker for al iving in the UK.

livve pokkkker :p

I'd bet against too dave if there's some way of proving it.

there isnt, I wish I hadnt said anything because Im a bit out of line being jake's finances into a silly comment like I made above

the point I was making to Jason is there is a huge portion of the poker world, making a lot more money than the hendon mob will ever see.

Yes definitely and Hendon mob as a measurement tool of skill/success is obviously ridiculous.

Norrrr don't crush his dreams! HM is everything jase!

Strange that they showed every bustout interview from the FT except mine. Really enjoyed the footage and commentary :)

Maybe it was my accent.

yeh did notice that

Thought the commentary towards u was a bit harsh in some ways at points. I mean, u prob would have had the chiplead if u could learn to win a whole pot vs Elwood when way in front

Hendon mob is obv only a measure of live tourneys and all we really have to go off. I accept it ain't 100% accurate but it's a yardstick. Just as the on line table rankings are not accurate. The thing the makes me lAugh is all the self proclaimed clique who can't even go to Dtd and play in comps and crush the standard of player there. Live poker is all about winning money not about making fancy excuses a out why you went out early on day 1agAin. You ain't doing guys any favours telling em to stick at the game if it is pretty obv they ain't got a chance of surviving while they have a hole in their arses. How many people are still around from only a short while back when the likes of action jack jaffacake and dare I say it red dog were playing their on line Poker. Only 5% last the long term on poker alone.  Everyone wants to be the next trickett Cody etc but the hard facts are for each of these guys there are far more losers. Just as pha is a usefull tool on forums then so is honest life advice and giving people a reality check.Gl to all those blondes playing the monte Carlo.   

 Aspades
There are still qiute a few of the old-uns around... both live and online , we have just learn`t to save our breath and not waste time and effort. Some still fight it out in tourneys, some grind out the cash, everyone can  find a niche IF they really want to... and are prepared to put the effort in.

i dont mind wasting my breath. i see most of these guys at dtd or ukipts and there is never any animosity.  sad fact is without getting a job most of these young guys wont still be playing the game in 5 years time. and without that element of luck/timing the game is becoming harder and harder to make a living from. the softest games i personally see now are the online sats to events like ukipts, deepstacks and dtd events. noone ever bothers to mention these as easy ways to get into live comps and then build a roll when you win multi entries. steve holden prob wont thank me but i have 3 mates for whom this is there bread and butter. as you say find a niche that suits you and your game. splashing around in everything like low stakes live to on line heads up aint gonna put food on the table for your families

But the online table ratings are faaaaaarrrrr more accurate tha HMDB. Surely u can figure out that theres a difference between a record of having played 100 tournaments in your life and 10000. U have 18 cashes on your hendon mob, just picked a random person off pocket 5s who has 1090 cashes. this mean theyve most likely played 60 tournaments for every single tournament you have ever played (and thats even without factoring in your exceptional cash ratio). Surely you can understand why their records might be seen as a truer reflection of their ability than yours.

You cant seem to accept it because you're one of them, but the ones who win the money live are the luckiest ones im afraid. If you think you can reliably and consistently make a living from live mtts, you're just plain wrong. Before you bring up some veteran who was been playing for years and years, even they will have played nowhere near enough tournaments to determine if they are a player with positive expectation in the long run, they have just run better than everyone else.

link pls.

+1. redic commentary on your general experience. You have obv put in millions of hands online and would have been in those exact spots tonnes of times, yet they are singling you out as being the one to get involved with, saying you are the least experienced.  the chops were abso horrendous!! Gutted we didn't get to see your interview. I had subtitles at the ready!

I laughed when they kept calling him young Raymond norton! He is older than jack!

The commentary was poor, especially as it would have taken 30 seconds to find out who ray was!

Did enjoy it when you went to reach for a raise then changed your mind last min. Wish I had the discipline. i just always end up raising lol

LOL, I'm hoping that sort of indecisiveness will disappear when I get a bit more experience.

Yeh the commentary on ray was really harsh. Bellamy's flicking in 800k pre with 85o and yet ray's the soft spot. Hmmm

yes for sure andrew. i aint ever gonna argue that the on line player does not have so much more knowledge and understanding of the game. but the online game has changed so much from the times when i played at ladbrokes full time. in those days the highlight used to be having the bragging rights on a tuesday night because action jacks  whose the daddy was named after you the following week or being in the top 100 mtt players every week etc. just as those times were totally different to the very early days when a whole bunch of kids from linkoping all made a million playing fixed limit.
i only really started playing mid price weekend buy in tourneys (£300 to £1000) when my kids came along a few years ago. before that i was happy to go out 5 nights a week playing pokerin re buy comps and cash games. to say that you cant make a living off mtt's is correct for 95% of the people but believe me there are enough people doing it. to say its only the lucky ones who win comps must be a joke. you would never say keith was a luckbox and won the eureka thing coz he is  lucky. you make your own luck ...play good run good....play bad run bad simples. you cant get idiots to fold and most of these guys come unstuck in competitions because they forget this most basic of poker rules. phil ivey cant out play ali bag of bollocks and get him to fold if ali has any sort of hand. the difference being is phil ivey would know this and adapt his game accordingly. (just like i would never want to play you at count down its really about understanding your opponent)

Ray folding was seen as "weak" whilst fraser calling with 85 off and flopping 2 pair and then outplaying Elwood was strong.

The whole commentary seem to be based around the fact of how well someone handles their chips and picks up their cards.

Ray I would stop analysing hands, reading poker theory and getting coaching from good players. Instead just practice riffling chips all day imo.

Of course keith won the tournament because he was lucky. He played excellently and is far better than i ever will be, but he was ridiculously lucky. You have to be. Ive played the deepstack a few times and id imagine ud put me in the group of "online players" you're referring to. Ive never even cashed in the dtd deepstack and played it prob nearly 10 times, but i jolly well do know how to adjust to different sorts of players tyvm, in my experience a lot of ppl in the deepstack fold far too much rather than not enough (particularly when stacks are short) Ive had aa vs kk and the other way around like 5 times to bust but just cos ive not got the same cash ratio (or a cash ratio at all fwiw)  over 10 tournaments as you, it doesnt really mean anything about our relative abilities over such a small sample. Take ali mallu. He won the leaderboard over a season of gukpts iirc, and in another thread you said u would back him to do better than some very good players because of this. Ive played with ali several times, and hes a nice guy, but hes absolutely terrible at poker, despite having some strong results live. If you genuinely believe that if you play good, you run good, then u need looking at. There are certainly ppl who have good results, and therefore have a decent living, but it is simply impossible to play enough live tournaments in a life time to get anywhere even close to your long term roi.

Stato you maffs fish.

it's fiddy fiddy you win or you don't.

durrrrrr!

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

 Ahrt


levels upon levels.

Has to be a massive level, surely?

exactly, it's a level upon a level inside another level.

incred wp gg nh.

jason you are clueless

I think so too.  Completely fooled me for a long time ;hattip;

fiddy fiddy imo

your just jealous i'm preaching on this thread. its all fine n dandy when i'm generating hits for your thread mr cos. soon as i help alex out you go all bitter again. try inviting me for some nice japanese

Doesn't mean I don't love you

yes i know....get so many pm's saying you are a prick jason....but please keep posting. suppose it deflects from someone else. struggled to 300 posts now am flying. should think if i started a diary i could catch you up in no time lol

Just brogasmed at the thought, pls do a diary.

This isn't Alex's diary

cos aint even defected to encore yet n already you are wanting to be internet policeman...... i keep setting em up and people keep falling in lol

yes bad idea. it will be looked down and folded, looked down and folded, look down and folded, wait a minute i final tabled again. will have to put in down to either being lucky or varience again

oh jesus, diary pls sir!!!

not a chance ever sorry

lol, im not defecting. i will be active on both, but my first blog went up there yday. :)

lets do this

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=52809.0

if you're not joking here, then u are literally one of the most deluded people on the planet. Poker is long-term results driven. I am a reasonably well proven winning online mtt player (10k ish games) but i have god knows how many streaks in that time where i have failed to cash in 10 tournaments in a row. assuming your cash rate is 20%, then more than a quarter of 10-game streaks will still include 0 cashes.

I actually do read the obituaries.

(http://i642.photobucket.com/albums/uu145/bliat/successful-troll.jpg)

You only cash 2O% of the time. Do you still live at home with your mum and dad and get away with only paying £15 a week lodge money still

+1

only 20%! Yeh stato wouldn't you rather mincash 35%?

Stato made a point about mickey wernick min cashing somewhere. He prob gets Put in so a min cash is still an excellent return. But he does not just min cash he goes on to final table and win events. Just as the guys who sat into every Dtd comp to them a min cash is an excellent roi. Stato has 0 cashes from 10 attempts so by my maths would need to at least final table to get his money back. When he does make a final because he eventually will, blonde will be full of go go Stato and IMO Stato should take this down but in reality he will be leaving tail between legs saying that John Exley is tez how can he call in that spot. So you are correct alex but right now Stato would take any cash  just to be able to say look I told you I could play

here is some interesting things for you all.

http://www.nsdpoker.com/2011/01/mtt-pros/

Noah SD cracked some pretty impressive maths on MTT variance. If you scroll down to the chart at the bottom, you'll see that a player with an ROI of 20% will expect to lose over a sample of 5000 (YES, FIVE THOUSAND) tournaments, admitedly this is online = bigger fields, = tougher players (in general) so variance will ofc be higher.

using Jason as a good live example, his lifetime tourney sample is prolly somewhere in the 1000-1500 mark....doesn't mean that your not a winner as you most likely are because you can spell poker, but just to give you a sample of variance to compare to, Andy not cashing in 10 £300's doesn't even make him close to a loser in them, he prolly still has an ROI of over 100%.

Now Ali Mallu - I disagree he is terrible at poker, I've played lots with him and seen him take a solid wage out of the naps £20re's and the small buyin tourneys for years, so fair play imo can't knock results - he does do some very wierd things admittedly, but still capable of causing all sorts of problems.

he starting playing in 2002 on Hendon mob, and has $811k in cashes, over 9 years, leaving an average yearly cash of $90k. his average buyin p year in ranked events, I would estimate at.... ifhe['s playing full gukpt schedule and ukipt and all sides, somewhere in the $6k p month region. giving him an av profit in ranked tourneys of around $20k, giving him a ROI of around 20-25% obviously his return in the smaller 20r's and the like will prolly be higher.

Interpret as you will, but worth thinking about....

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/Sunny220v/poker/rankings/F370E74B7ABD40AB8FAE8D96287C125F.html?t=4

This guy has won 400k this year, he must be amazing at teh poker.

He is actually down on the year before rb!

wonder what he spent all the winnings on?

I have seen my mates name on there in 50th place. I don't know how to use this site. His dad still plays dealers choice games locally. I accept what you say about turnover for vanity profit for sanity etc. I have another mate who has final tabled the Sunday millions and a recent ftoPs. I know he is tez at poker because he has £180k of live buy since he came to my wedding in Vegas in 2009 and never cashed once other than getting his 10k buy in back for drawing tv table in his first ever live event which was wsop main 2009. When my mate looked him up online he was down 250k at the time. My own situation is that I sat into most of the events I play and due to family commitments can only play 2 weekends a month  in the last 2 years. I would be surprised if I have played 50 times in that time so quite like my cash ratio and roi. I am also in a fortunate position to have a window cleaning business that I rent to some guys and this covers looking after the house cars n kids etc. I spend £200 a week in tesco alone.

Should order food online, much less variance over the long term. Some people will never learn online >b&m.

Lol. Yep im really desperate to mincash the deepstack soon. I cant wait till u think im a good player my life will be complete

The guy I linked is almost certainly going supernova elite on stars, which means he is going to make about 100k in various stuff that stars reward you with for raking a shitload.

+1

monday this week i had no food, ordered from asda, and sat pateintly for 20hours waiting for all the nice things to arrive,internally mocking all the chumps driving to the supermarket and back

ship it