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[GreekStein]

Yeh the commentary on ray was really harsh. Bellamy's flicking in 800k pre with 85o and yet ray's the soft spot. Hmmm

[smashedagain]

I accept it ain't 100% accurate but it's a yardstick. Just as the on line table rankings are not accurate. The thing the makes me lAugh is all the self proclaimed clique who can't even go to Dtd and play in comps and crush the standard of player there. Live poker is all about winning money

But the online table ratings are faaaaaarrrrr more accurate tha HMDB. Surely u can figure out that theres a difference between a record of having played 100 tournaments in your life and 10000. U have 18 cashes on your hendon mob, just picked a random person off pocket who has 1090 cashes. this mean theyve most likely played 60 tournaments for every single tournament you have ever played (and thats even without factoring in your exceptional cash ratio). Surely you can understand why their records might be seen as a truer reflection of their ability than yours.

You cant seem to accept it because you're one of them, but the ones who win the money live are the luckiest ones im afraid. If you think you can reliably and consistently make a living from live mtts, you're just plain wrong. Before you bring up some veteran who was been playing for years and years, even they will have played nowhere near enough tournaments to determine if they are a player with positive expectation in the long run, they have just run better than everyone else.

yes for sure andrew. i aint ever gonna argue that the on line player does not have so much more knowledge and understanding of the game. but the online game has changed so much from the times when i played at ladbrokes full time. in those days the highlight used to be having the bragging rights on a tuesday night because action jacks  whose the daddy was named after you the following week or being in the top 100 mtt players every week etc. just as those times were totally different to the very early days when a whole bunch of kids from linkoping all made a million playing fixed limit.
i only really started playing mid price weekend buy in tourneys (£300 to £1000) when my kids came along a few years ago. before that i was happy to go out 5 nights a week playing pokerin re buy comps and cash games. to say that you cant make a living off mtt's is correct for 95% of the people but believe me there are enough people doing it. to say its only the lucky ones who win comps must be a joke. you would never say keith was a luckbox and won the eureka thing coz he is  lucky. you make your own luck ...play good run good....play bad run bad simples. you cant get idiots to fold and most of these guys come unstuck in competitions because they forget this most basic of poker rules. phil ivey cant out play ali bag of bollocks and get him to fold if ali has any sort of hand. the difference being is phil ivey would know this and adapt his game accordingly. (just like i would never want to play you at count down its really about understanding your opponent)

[George2Loose]

Ray folding was seen as "weak" whilst fraser calling with 85 off and flopping 2 pair and then outplaying Elwood was strong.

[Longy]

The whole commentary seem to be based around the fact of how well someone handles their chips and picks up their cards.

Ray I would stop analysing hands, reading poker theory and getting coaching from good players. Instead just practice riffling chips all day imo.

[stato_1]

I accept it ain't 100% accurate but it's a yardstick. Just as the on line table rankings are not accurate. The thing the makes me lAugh is all the self proclaimed clique who can't even go to Dtd and play in comps and crush the standard of player there. Live poker is all about winning money

But the online table ratings are faaaaaarrrrr more accurate tha HMDB. Surely u can figure out that theres a difference between a record of having played 100 tournaments in your life and 10000. U have 18 cashes on your hendon mob, just picked a random person off pocket who has 1090 cashes. this mean theyve most likely played 60 tournaments for every single tournament you have ever played (and thats even without factoring in your exceptional cash ratio). Surely you can understand why their records might be seen as a truer reflection of their ability than yours.

You cant seem to accept it because you're one of them, but the ones who win the money live are the luckiest ones im afraid. If you think you can reliably and consistently make a living from live mtts, you're just plain wrong. Before you bring up some veteran who was been playing for years and years, even they will have played nowhere near enough tournaments to determine if they are a player with positive expectation in the long run, they have just run better than everyone else.

yes for sure andrew. i aint ever gonna argue that the on line player does not have so much more knowledge and understanding of the game. but the online game has changed so much from the times when i played at ladbrokes full time. in those days the highlight used to be having the bragging rights on a tuesday night because action jacks  whose the daddy was named after you the following week or being in the top 100 mtt players every week etc. just as those times were totally different to the very early days when a whole bunch of kids from linkoping all made a million playing fixed limit.
i only really started playing mid price weekend buy in tourneys (£300 to £1000) when my kids came along a few years ago. before that i was happy to go out 5 nights a week playing pokerin re buy comps and cash games. to say that you cant make a living off mtt's is correct for 95% of the people but believe me there are enough people doing it. to say its only the lucky ones who win comps must be a joke. you would never say keith was a luckbox and won the eureka thing coz he is  lucky. you make your own luck ...play good run good....play bad run bad simples. you cant get idiots to fold and most of these guys come unstuck in competitions because they forget this most basic of poker rules. phil ivey cant out play ali bag of bollocks and get him to fold if ali has any sort of hand. the difference being is phil ivey would know this and adapt his game accordingly. (just like i would never want to play you at count down its really about understanding your opponent)

Of course keith won the tournament because he was lucky. He played excellently and is far better than i ever will be, but he was ridiculously lucky. You have to be. Ive played the deepstack a few times and id imagine ud put me in the group of "online players" you're referring to. Ive never even cashed in the dtd deepstack and played it prob nearly 10 times, but i jolly well do know how to adjust to different sorts of players tyvm, in my experience a lot of ppl in the deepstack fold far too much rather than not enough (particularly when stacks are short) Ive had aa vs kk and the other way around like 5 times to bust but just cos ive not got the same cash ratio (or a cash ratio at all fwiw)  over 10 tournaments as you, it doesnt really mean anything about our relative abilities over such a small sample. Take ali mallu. He won the leaderboard over a season of gukpts iirc, and in another thread you said u would back him to do better than some very good players because of this. Ive played with ali several times, and hes a nice guy, but hes absolutely terrible at poker, despite having some strong results live. If you genuinely believe that if you play good, you run good, then u need looking at. There are certainly ppl who have good results, and therefore have a decent living, but it is simply impossible to play enough live tournaments in a life time to get anywhere even close to your long term roi.

[titaniumbean]

Stato you maffs fish.

it's fiddy fiddy you win or you don't.

durrrrrr!

[smashedagain]

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

[titaniumbean]

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

 


levels upon levels.

[kinboshi]

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

 


levels upon levels.

Has to be a massive level, surely?

[titaniumbean]

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

 


levels upon levels.

Has to be a massive level, surely?

exactly, it's a level upon a level inside another level.

incred wp gg nh.

[GreekStein]

jason you are clueless

[kinboshi]

ali has getting on for 800k in live earnings from the live scene. these are on the hendonmob thing...but these are not his bread and butter games that he plays 5 nights a week in the casinos of the north. the likes of gosney ali et al have been owning these games for years and both these guys have probably earned the same again in these comps. they pay 10% at dtd so you as a retard you should be looking to cash a minimum of 1 in ten. i aint saying that you are a tez player but when you are dead money surely you have to start learning from the fact that you never cash. wtf is that about? how can you claim to be half decent at poker. it must be results driven for gods sake.

 


levels upon levels.

Has to be a massive level, surely?

exactly, it's a level upon a level inside another level.

incred wp gg nh.

I think so too.  Completely fooled me for a long time

[titaniumbean]

jason you are clueless

fiddy fiddy imo

[smashedagain]

jason you are clueless

your just jealous i'm preaching on this thread. its all fine n dandy when i'm generating hits for your thread mr cos. soon as i help alex out you go all bitter again. try inviting me for some nice japanese

[GreekStein]

Doesn't mean I don't love you