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Title: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 09:40:51 AM
Live hand from last night at DTD on .50/1 table.

SB - My mate, seems to do well at cash, massive leaks in his game though. Very deep, 170bbs
UTG - Calls everything pre if not him raising, donks into raiser every hand where he hits anything or not. 150bbs perhaps
UTG+1 - Kid, not very good - 23bbs
Me - MP, 115bbs

I have Aspades Ahrt

UTG - Calls
UTG+1 - Calls
I raise £4
SB - Calls
Pot = 17

Flop -  Qc 8d 6d
UTG - Donks 5
UTG+1 - Shoves for 19
I raise to 40.
My mate puts me all in for my 75 behind.
UTG - Folds
Hero???

Should be unfoldable right?



Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Woodsey on April 21, 2011, 10:11:09 AM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 10:32:55 AM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 10:57:43 AM
I wont post what happened yet.

Alex I was actually on your table, you've ran into me a few times, mainly consisting of me giving you lots of moniezzz. Yellow jacket. But sure I'll give you a wave as long as your not sat on my table!!


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: outragous76 on April 21, 2011, 10:59:01 AM
Alex

I agree with 1&2 but not sure about your logic in 3!

If we can put him on your range, we have to call. Only dead to a set.   

Meh, reread, it's close, I might find a fold here dependent on live stuff


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 11:00:22 AM
Maybe 150bbs, he folded (for a change!) after my mate shoved


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: outragous76 on April 21, 2011, 11:08:44 AM
ignore my post - easy fold

i thought he was jamming 75 total


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 11:12:14 AM
I wont post what happened yet.

Alex I was actually on your table, you've ran into me a few times, mainly consisting of me giving you lots of moniezzz. Yellow jacket. But sure I'll give you a wave as long as your not sat on my table!!

that first table, 61? in seat 3 was it? ahhhhhhhhh i see. u shouldntve told me and just used all the info u have on me against me to break me!


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 11:12:57 AM
ignore my post - easy fold

i thought he was jamming 75 total
;letsparty;


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 11:16:39 AM
I wont post what happened yet.

Alex I was actually on your table, you've ran into me a few times, mainly consisting of me giving you lots of moniezzz. Yellow jacket. But sure I'll give you a wave as long as your not sat on my table!!

that first table, 61? in seat 3 was it? ahhhhhhhhh i see. u shouldntve told me and just used all the info u have on me against me to break me!

Yeah seat 3 on the first table, you left before this hand happened.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: GreekStein on April 21, 2011, 11:20:40 AM
I call.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: smashedagain on April 21, 2011, 11:28:48 AM
i fold. if he is your mate he is making it quite clear you are beat. he maybe saving you cash. if your aces were ahead you dont know who your mates are.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 11:35:05 AM
OK, so obviously this hand didn't have a satisfactory outcome for me.

I folded.

Donk bettor says he made straight but folded so irrelevant
Low stack 19 shover had 66 for a set, I dont mind.
My mate had AQoff, absolutely shocking play by him.

I was disgusted with him and most of all myself, even if I couldn't beat the shortstack the side pot would have brought me out with 190 quid.

He apparently thought I was Hero isolating with JJ, AK or flushing...Pfft.



Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: GreekStein on April 21, 2011, 11:37:28 AM
I call.

....there are too many clowns at 50/1 (see your mate)

and the board is too wet


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: smashedagain on April 21, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
thats why its awkward playing pokers with mates. its all fine if you both play hard and still drive home together happy.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 11:41:48 AM
I call.

....there are too many clowns at 50/1 (see your mate)

and the board is too wet

results orientated analyse ftw.

it depends on the player ofc, vs loads of the 50/1 guys at dtd this is a clear fold. vs some of the younger guys who are capable of being really spazzy in this spot its a call I guess. also some of the younger guys who know to shove 57dd etc here you can call vs them too.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 11:42:58 AM
Sick thing is he said, so you dont have Aces or Kings while I was tanking...should have made me snap him off I guess.

As for the mates thing, we do get at eachother sometimes but not in this instance, pure stupidity on him but crap play by me too.

The night resulted in a big hole in my pocket after this too..Double FML!


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: GreekStein on April 21, 2011, 11:44:04 AM
I call.

....there are too many clowns at 50/1 (see your mate)

and the board is too wet

results orientated analyse ftw.

it depends on the player ofc, vs loads of the 50/1 guys at dtd this is a clear fold. vs some of the younger guys who are capable of being really spazzy in this spot its a call I guess. also some of the younger guys who know to shove 57dd etc here you can call vs them too.

How is it results orientated when I said I'd call before the results were posted and whilst everyone else was advocating a fold?

I'm just saying why I would have made the call.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 11:58:14 AM
I call.

....there are too many clowns at 50/1 (see your mate)

and the board is too wet

results orientated analyse ftw.

it depends on the player ofc, vs loads of the 50/1 guys at dtd this is a clear fold. vs some of the younger guys who are capable of being really spazzy in this spot its a call I guess. also some of the younger guys who know to shove 57dd etc here you can call vs them too.

How is it results orientated when I said I'd call before the results were posted and whilst everyone else was advocating a fold?

I'm just saying why I would have made the call.

i kno i kno was just joshing old bean


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: stato_1 on April 21, 2011, 12:05:08 PM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D (nah - see "seems to do well")

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.

  • Cambridge Alex knows what to do at .50/1 at DTD

Also pretty funny imo if he goes up to Jason to say hi because of ur picture. "oh hi Alex, you're not as posh as I imagined... and whats that trickling down your leg?"


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: outragous76 on April 21, 2011, 12:14:02 PM
Sick thing is he said, so you dont have Aces or Kings while I was tanking...should have made me snap him off I guess.

As for the mates thing, we do get at eachother sometimes but not in this instance, pure stupidity on him but crap play by me too.

The night resulted in a big hole in my pocket after this too..Double FML!

norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

key info and live soul read right there!

You should have just said yes i do! - watch him squirm like fk then say call!

easy game


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: millidonk on April 21, 2011, 12:50:49 PM
You lot must have some nice mates.

Me and my best mate in poker give each other sick slow rolls, look to do each other out of every possible pot, flip for $1k etc, in cash games anyway. Try not to over do it in tournies, although he did bust me out of a decent one on the 2nd hand once... my top 2 into his top n bottom. on a K54 board obv spikes his 2 outer...

Anyways, moral of the story. Raise more pre and SNAP him off on that flop.

ps Don't listen to Guy. That boy folds AA every time it gets dealt em.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: outragous76 on April 21, 2011, 12:52:40 PM
You lot must have some nice mates.

Me and my best mate in poker give each other sick slow rolls, look to do each other out of every possible pot, flip for $1k etc, in cash games anyway. Try not to over do it in tournies, although he did bust me out of a decent one on the 2nd hand once... my top 2 into his top n bottom. on a K54 board obv spikes his 2 outer...

Anyways, moral of the story. Raise more pre and SNAP him off on that flop.

ps Don't listen to Guy. That boy folds AA every time it gets dealt em.

haha  - nice! No where near as fast as I fold QQ thou!


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: cambridgealex on April 21, 2011, 01:09:56 PM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D (nah - see "seems to do well")

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.

  • Cambridge Alex knows what to do at .50/1 at DTD

Also pretty funny imo if he goes up to Jason to say hi because of ur picture. "oh hi Alex, you're not as posh as I imagined... and whats that trickling down your leg?"

very good


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 21, 2011, 05:59:48 PM
never folding here 170bb's deep, and yes I've read the results so either believe that I thought call before I saw the results or dont lol

Mind you if in your opinion he isnt jamming AQ for value, which I instantly thought he would be then it makes it extremely close.

It's an interesting spot your mates in with the AQ though....I think if he has the  Ad its an easy fold.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: smashedagain on April 21, 2011, 06:12:26 PM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D (nah - see "seems to do well")

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.

[X] Cambridge Alex knows what to do at .50/1 at DTD

Also pretty funny imo if he goes up to Jason to say hi because of ur picture. "oh hi Alex, you're not as posh as I imagined... and whats that trickling down your leg?"
fyp coz i know how to do the brackets thing. and stop taking the piss. i've just found tenor for men....they sponsor a british superbike team so man pads must be cool
and if any one trys swinging a punch at me for something you have posted on here alex then there will be trouble


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 21, 2011, 07:04:40 PM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D (nah - see "seems to do well")

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.

[X] Cambridge Alex knows what to do at .50/1 at DTD

Also pretty funny imo if he goes up to Jason to say hi because of ur picture. "oh hi Alex, you're not as posh as I imagined... and whats that trickling down your leg?"
fyp coz i know how to do the brackets thing. and stop taking the piss. i've just found tenor for men....they sponsor a british superbike team so man pads must be cool
and if any one trys swinging a punch at me for something you have posted on here alex then there will be trouble

I wold say thats its pretty likely, and pretty unlikely to be Alex's fault lol


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: smashedagain on April 21, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
I wouldn't pass cus I'm a fish but I assume you lost? That's why your posting obv  ;)

Is your mate Cambridge Alex btw? If so nice rub  :D (nah - see "seems to do well")

haha no, but I was playing 50/1 at DTD last night, didn't see this though. Bully, have we met? Come say hi next time your down.

1) Raise more pre, this is Live, people don't like to fold. After two limps, AT LEAST £6, probs 7 or 8 given description of UTG. Btw 170bbs is not "very deep".
2) Personally, I'd flat the £19 shove. raising to 40 will get the UTG to fold a lot, whereas flatting makes him much more likely to make a big mistake overcalling.
3) As played, I fold here. Seems very likely your mate has a set/two pair and if not, he has a combo draw that yr flipping with anyway.

[X] Cambridge Alex knows what to do at .50/1 at DTD

Also pretty funny imo if he goes up to Jason to say hi because of ur picture. "oh hi Alex, you're not as posh as I imagined... and whats that trickling down your leg?"
fyp coz i know how to do the brackets thing. and stop taking the piss. i've just found tenor for men....they sponsor a british superbike team so man pads must be cool
and if any one trys swinging a punch at me for something you have posted on here alex then there will be trouble

I wold say thats its pretty likely, and pretty unlikely to be Alex's fault lol
lol lildave . bigger guys than you have tried and died


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 07:21:39 PM
never folding here 170bb's deep, and yes I've read the results so either believe that I thought call before I saw the results or dont lol

Mind you if in your opinion he isnt jamming AQ for value, which I instantly thought he would be then it makes it extremely close.

It's an interesting spot your mates in with the AQ though....I think if he has the  Ad its an easy fold.

He did have  Ad  Qs


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 21, 2011, 09:29:29 PM
he should fold imo


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: Bully87 on April 21, 2011, 10:50:24 PM
he should fold imo

He thought I had hero JJ, AK or I was flushing.

I still feel a bit sick about this, I should be snapping this off all day, 75 to win 196. FML.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: pokerfan on April 21, 2011, 10:57:06 PM
Don't know how you can pass here.


Title: Re: DTD .50/1
Post by: SuuPRlim on April 22, 2011, 03:50:08 AM
he should fold imo

He thought I had hero JJ, AK or I was flushing.

I still feel a bit sick about this, I should be snapping this off all day, 75 to win 196. FML.

yh you're never ISO'ing with JJ or AK in this spot and a healthy combination of your semi bluffs will include the  Ad.