Title: Satelite Spot Post by: Eso Kral on May 25, 2011, 11:30:21 PM Satelite with 2 seats and 1/2 a buy in for 3rd place
11 Players left Average chip stack is 13500 Blinds 400/800/50 just about to go up tp 500/1000 Hero BB 23000 Villain SB 19000 Villain has been solid and only really shown down strong holdings winning most pots on flop or turn. Action:- it folds round to the SB who open ships for 19000 My question is whats our range to call with? Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: outragous76 on May 25, 2011, 11:32:06 PM 66+
A5+ Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: EvilPie on May 25, 2011, 11:34:40 PM JJ+
AQ+ Might widen it a bit if he's done it a few times but I can happily fold 10s and AJ here. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: WotRTheChances on May 25, 2011, 11:50:01 PM JJ+ AQ+ Might widen it a bit if he's done it a few times but I can happily fold 10s and AJ here. Never ever ever folding TT here, for me it'd be 66/77+, A8+, happily fold KQ. As mention it depends a lot on if this has happened previously. He has an M of ~6, so he should basically be shoving or folding here. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: Doobs on May 26, 2011, 12:55:47 AM Never ever ever folding TT here, for me it'd be 66/77+, A8+, happily fold KQ. As mention it depends a lot on if this has happened previously. He has an M of ~6, so he should basically be shoving or folding here. M of ~6 [ ] don't think I am folding vs a SB shove here Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: WotRTheChances on May 26, 2011, 02:30:41 AM Never ever ever folding TT here, for me it'd be 66/77+, A8+, happily fold KQ. As mention it depends a lot on if this has happened previously. He has an M of ~6, so he should basically be shoving or folding here. M of ~6 [ ] don't think I am folding vs a SB shove here Haha well at least I'm not doing a maths degree.... So yer it's more like 12-12.5. OK this changes things slightly. Feel like opp has a far less balanced range for shoving here, tending towards 22-77 and A5-A9 seem likely IMO as well as KQ possibly. Probably want 77+ and A8+ still Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: Eso Kral on May 26, 2011, 08:37:21 AM Ok i posted this in reverse and i am actually the villain here so what is your shoving range?
Is ok to shove any Ahrt / Ks combos? In relation to previous posts this is the first open shove that i have made so hopefully i wont get looked up too light. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: Ironside on May 26, 2011, 08:48:33 AM i am shoving QT+ infact most suited connectors and 55+
Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: EvilPie on May 26, 2011, 10:38:34 AM Ok i posted this in reverse and i am actually the villain here so what is your shoving range? Is ok to shove any Ahrt / Ks combos? In relation to previous posts this is the first open shove that i have made so hopefully i wont get looked up too light. Id be shoving 66+ A2s, A7+ KJ+ Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: iRaise on May 26, 2011, 12:07:00 PM Are these responses based on the fact there is only two seat with 11 left... or is this a standard satellite approach?
Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: MC on May 26, 2011, 12:22:01 PM Calling range should be something like 88+, AT+, against described villain, maybe slightly tighter based on that fact this is for 24 bigs, hard to see this kind of person getting too crazy out of line.
SB I don't shove any hand for 24 big blinds so you shouldn't really be shoving anything imo. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: kinboshi on May 26, 2011, 12:56:18 PM Calling range should be something like 88+, AT+, against described villain, maybe slightly tighter based on that fact this is for 24 bigs, hard to see this kind of person getting too crazy out of line. SB I don't shove any hand for 24 big blinds so you shouldn't really be shoving anything imo. With only two seats and still 11 players left, I think that shoving from the SB with a range slightly wider than you've posted for your calling range from the BB is absolutely fine. Also agree with with your calling range, dependent of course on how the SB is playing. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: Eso Kral on May 26, 2011, 01:08:37 PM Are these responses based on the fact there is only two seat with 11 left... or is this a standard satellite approach? Not a standard satellite approach as in this particular tournament it will get very steep quickly, more the dynamics of this spot and how open our shove can be and what other regs would look to call withTitle: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: Eso Kral on May 26, 2011, 01:13:14 PM Calling range should be something like 88+, AT+, against described villain, maybe slightly tighter based on that fact this is for 24 bigs, hard to see this kind of person getting too crazy out of line. SB I don't shove any hand for 24 big blinds so you shouldn't really be shoving anything imo. So with our prescribed range are you then happy to raise to 2000 and fold to the bb overbet shove? Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: MC on May 26, 2011, 01:49:41 PM Calling range should be something like 88+, AT+, against described villain, maybe slightly tighter based on that fact this is for 24 bigs, hard to see this kind of person getting too crazy out of line. SB I don't shove any hand for 24 big blinds so you shouldn't really be shoving anything imo. So with our prescribed range are you then happy to raise to 2000 and fold to the bb overbet shove? I will be raise/folding certain hands and raise/calling certain hands. It's going to be villain/situation dependant on how likely they are to flat us, how tight we've been playing, they've been playing etc. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: EvilPie on May 26, 2011, 03:57:56 PM Calling range should be something like 88+, AT+, against described villain, maybe slightly tighter based on that fact this is for 24 bigs, hard to see this kind of person getting too crazy out of line. SB I don't shove any hand for 24 big blinds so you shouldn't really be shoving anything imo. Lol. Hadn't even spotted how deep we were. I just assumed that we were about 10 bigs seeing as it was a shove question. As MC says there isn't a hand in the world that you should shove from the SB this deep unless you've got some killer info. (Knowing your oppos cards would be a start). Raise fold some, raise call some, fold some as well. If someone shoves 24 bigs at me I'll definitely stick to my previous calling range. Title: Re: Satelite Spot Post by: outragous76 on May 26, 2011, 04:20:31 PM I had also misread stack sizes
Dependant upon previous action I could be really tight in this spot too - but then I probs say - "meh he's spazzing bvb" and call off at my previous range! It also absolutely depends upon quality of the remaning field too. If everyone was a SNG wiz and had calling ranges bang on and I had no edge - id snap this guy off really light. If i thought that they were all terrible, id realise my 24bb was worth its weight in gold and just fold everything except QQ+ |