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Title: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: badhaircut on May 31, 2011, 01:00:47 PM
Ok I have just moved tables as a result of a rebalance.  I have played 4 hands at the table playing 0/0, the big stack is playing 50/0 over 4 hands (sick sample) and as I have not played with him during the tourney i have little knowledge of table dynamics at this stage.  

There are 12/900 left, there is 2.5 million in play and Villain has about 30% of chips in play at the beginning of the hand

Tournament #399175956, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVIII (3500/7000) -

Table '399175956 38' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: 74bebe (263192 in chips)
Seat 2: KIRIPOP (51247 in chips)
Seat 3: badhaircut (153276 in chips)   (22 ish bb)
Seat 5: dooter317 (119925 in chips)
Seat 7: serg800 (615357 in chips)
Seat 8: OMGitsMihai (48304 in chips)
74bebe: posts the ante 875
KIRIPOP: posts the ante 875
badhaircut: posts the ante 875
dooter317: posts the ante 875
serg800: posts the ante 875
OMGitsMihai: posts the ante 875
74bebe: posts small blind 3500
KIRIPOP: posts big blind 7000
*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to badhaircut [As Js]
badhaircut: raises 7560 to 14560
dooter317: folds
serg800: calls 14560
OMGitsMihai: folds
74bebe: folds
KIRIPOP: calls 7560

*** FLOP *** [4s 4c 2s]
KIRIPOP: checks
badhaircut: bets 17301
serg800: calls 17301
KIRIPOP: folds

*** TURN *** [4s 4c 2s] [6d]

(Pot: $87 032,00)

(Effective Stacks of 120kish)


My plan was to lead shove the flop - Howeer as the big stack peels here on a 6 turn card what is our best play?

Is a 1.3x pot shove spew, or is it best for us to lead call here? - but if we do we are only left with an 80k barrell which is about 45% of the pot on the river if he peels and we miss.


I haven't really played as much MTT's for a while so apoligies if this seems like a simple spot - but I am confused with the lack of information at hand what is our best play


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: Solaris on May 31, 2011, 01:12:45 PM
It's an easy bet/call. Can't ever see myself folding in this spot. He's nearly always got 2 overs in this spot and I expect a fold a large % of the time.


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: badhaircut on May 31, 2011, 01:16:47 PM
Bet size on turn?


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: Solaris on May 31, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
45ish with the intention to call any shove.

Having checked the hand again I don't love your flop bet sizing. Prefer to make it 28k, then on turn pot is roughly 1:1 and we can make an easy turn shove.


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: Q8Holds on May 31, 2011, 01:36:48 PM
Yeh exact same as above :) althought i dont bet pot on turn more like a little over 3/4


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: muckthenuts on May 31, 2011, 03:25:20 PM
bet the turn and get it in


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: cambridgealex on May 31, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
bet the turn and get it in


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: swansfc on May 31, 2011, 10:53:52 PM
i shove, i don't like any bet sizing if a blank river comes, you have a lot of equity if you get called by 55-88


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: 1mtm91 on June 12, 2011, 03:47:35 AM
How bad is c/ring AI on turn?

He may well bet/fold a bunch, and by c/ring we give ourselves a chance to take the initiative with some FE, and if we get a call we have equity v pretty much all of his range. Also, if he checks back he can still hit a bunch of cards that help us, and if a totally blank river comes we can go c/f or c/c depending on how we range him on river.

Also, betting flop and checking turn just looks crazy weak, and given the BI of the MTT I think villain is likely to spazz/fold a bunch on turn.


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: George2Loose on June 12, 2011, 08:20:13 AM
Just jam


Title: Re: Deep in low stakes mtt - turn decision when effective stacks are 1.3x pot
Post by: redarmi on June 12, 2011, 09:52:00 AM
Just jam

I would generally do this and then beat myself up for an hour later about the way i played the hand.