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Title: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: stato_1 on June 13, 2011, 02:44:52 AM
What range are we shoving here vs unknowns?

Ever doing something that isn't shoving/folding?

PokerStars Game #63279982381: Tournament #424011267, $20+$5+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (25000/50000) - 2011/06/13 1:40:35 WET [2011/06/12 20:40:35 ET]
Table '424011267 60' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: Gazzarooni (410689 in chips)
Seat 6: kagiot (871098 in chips)
Seat 7: stato_1 (666528 in chips)
Seat 8: saltalabanca (648858 in chips)
Seat 9: nozzor (456827 in chips)
Gazzarooni: posts the ante 5000
kagiot: posts the ante 5000
stato_1: posts the ante 5000
saltalabanca: posts the ante 5000
nozzor: posts the ante 5000
Gazzarooni: posts small blind 25000
kagiot: posts big blind 50000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stato_1


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: outragous76 on June 13, 2011, 02:47:22 AM
payouts?


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: paulhouk03 on June 13, 2011, 02:50:57 AM
66+ a8+ kj+

maybe depends on how they are palying and if the bb is tight + ur image

never raise folding


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: stato_1 on June 13, 2011, 02:51:49 AM
3514
2545
1934
1417
1007


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: muckthenuts on June 13, 2011, 04:14:23 AM
Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: skolsuper on June 13, 2011, 08:01:46 AM
3514
2545
1934
1417
1007

thinly veiled


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: Rupert on June 13, 2011, 09:27:17 AM
Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: Solaris on June 13, 2011, 09:44:53 AM
Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Think this is where reads come into it I think. If we have a calling station in the blinds we should have a very tight shoving range etc. If there's a winning player behind who will call the shoves fairly light thinking our range is pretty wide then obviously we can't be shoving a5s.

As a general rule I'm shoving something like 22+, ATo+, KQo


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: redarmi on June 13, 2011, 10:24:53 AM
Pretty much never doing anything other than shoving or folding unless I have limp folded to a very aggressive player earlier on and think he might do it again.  I like Ho's range but am probably a bit wider tbh.  This is the time to be applying the pressure.


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: Rupert on June 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM
I haven't done any maths on the situation but I reckon we could jam A5s turn our hand face up have them call perfectly and still be +EV.  If not, then I would be pretty surprised if it wasn't +EV with our hand face down.


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: stato_1 on June 13, 2011, 02:49:09 PM
A9o?


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: WotRTheChances on June 13, 2011, 03:00:40 PM
A9o?

Shove/Shove


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: muckthenuts on June 13, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Definitely some merit to not busting first here


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: Rupert on June 14, 2011, 01:07:43 AM
Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.

Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here

Definitely some merit to not busting first here

That's what they are thinking...

A9o I'm def shoving


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: DMorgan on June 14, 2011, 01:25:32 AM
Jammings lots

Can't imagine me folding many suited connectors here

Folding A9o here would be terrrrrribad imo


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: stato_1 on June 14, 2011, 02:40:36 AM
thought so. results oriented threads ftl


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: PizzicatoXev on June 16, 2011, 09:10:43 AM
66+ a8+ kj+

maybe depends on how they are palying and if the bb is tight + ur image

never raise folding


I like this range alot though I would include 55 as well

Only time I am not shoving or folding is when I have a monster (ie AK or JJ+) I will consider a raise (minraise most likely) call.


Title: Re: Turbo MTT final spot
Post by: AMRN on June 16, 2011, 10:12:42 AM
Jamming 22+, A2+, KT+ in any position. in SB, jamming ATC in unopened pot. On BTN, jamming 22+, A2+, K7+, QT+.

Rarely calling a jam lighter than TT+, AQ+ though.