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						| stato_1 | 
								|  | «  on: June 13, 2011, 02:44:52 AM » |  | 
 
 What range are we shoving here vs unknowns?
 Ever doing something that isn't shoving/folding?
 
 PokerStars Game #63279982381: Tournament #424011267, $20+$5+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (25000/50000) - 2011/06/13 1:40:35 WET [2011/06/12 20:40:35 ET]
 Table '424011267 60' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
 Seat 2: Gazzarooni (410689 in chips)
 Seat 6: kagiot (871098 in chips)
 Seat 7: stato_1 (666528 in chips)
 Seat 8: saltalabanca (648858 in chips)
 Seat 9: nozzor (456827 in chips)
 Gazzarooni: posts the ante 5000
 kagiot: posts the ante 5000
 stato_1: posts the ante 5000
 saltalabanca: posts the ante 5000
 nozzor: posts the ante 5000
 Gazzarooni: posts small blind 25000
 kagiot: posts big blind 50000
 *** HOLE CARDS ***
 Dealt to stato_1
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						| outragous76 | 
								|  | « Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 02:47:22 AM » |  | 
 
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						| paulhouk03 | 
								|  | « Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 02:50:57 AM » |  | 
 
 66+ a8+ kj+
 maybe depends on how they are palying and if the bb is tight + ur image
 
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						| stato_1 | 
								|  | « Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 02:51:49 AM » |  | 
 
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						| muckthenuts | 
								|  | « Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 04:14:23 AM » |  | 
 
 Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs.  |  
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						| skolsuper | 
								|  | « Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 08:01:46 AM » |  | 
 
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						| Rupert | 
								|  | « Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 09:27:17 AM » |  | 
 
 Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs. 
 Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace here |  
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						| Solaris | 
								|  | « Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 09:44:53 AM » |  | 
 
 Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs. 
 Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace hereThink this is where reads come into it I think. If we have a calling station in the blinds we should have a very tight shoving range etc. If there's a winning player behind who will call the shoves fairly light thinking our range is pretty wide then obviously we can't be shoving a5s. As a general rule I'm shoving something like 22+, ATo+, KQo |  
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						| redarmi | 
								|  | « Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 10:24:53 AM » |  | 
 
 Pretty much never doing anything other than shoving or folding unless I have limp folded to a very aggressive player earlier on and think he might do it again.  I like Ho's range but am probably a bit wider tbh.  This is the time to be applying the pressure. |  
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						| Rupert | 
								|  | « Reply #9 on: June 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM » |  | 
 
 I haven't done any maths on the situation but I reckon we could jam A5s turn our hand face up have them call perfectly and still be +EV.  If not, then I would be pretty surprised if it wasn't +EV with our hand face down. |  
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						| stato_1 | 
								|  | « Reply #10 on: June 13, 2011, 02:49:09 PM » |  | 
 
 A9o? |  
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						| muckthenuts | 
								|  | « Reply #12 on: June 13, 2011, 04:01:00 PM » |  | 
 
 Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs. 
 Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace hereDefinitely some merit to not busting first here  |  
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						| Rupert | 
								|  | « Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 01:07:43 AM » |  | 
 
 Being that everyone is one AIP away from busto/screwed i'm not shoving too overly wide here with ~12bb's. Something like 66+,ATo,KTs. 
 Doesn't this make it a way better reason to jam than to be nitty?  I very much doubt I ever fold a pair or suited ace hereDefinitely some merit to not busting first here That's what they are thinking... A9o I'm def shoving |  
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						| DMorgan | 
								|  | « Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 01:25:32 AM » |  | 
 
 Jammings lots
 Can't imagine me folding many suited connectors here
 
 Folding A9o here would be terrrrrribad imo
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