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Is it just me or are there a few teams priced bigger than they should be?

Derby 17-20 (VC) to beat Doncaster

Charlton 4-5 to beat Scunthorpe

southampton 5-6 to beat Millwall

All home teams, all with a 100% record. The first two up against clubs who haven't done a lot yet and S'ton look to be genuine title contenders this season.

I will probably also take on Arsenal, just haven't decided how yet..Liverpool draw no bet is 11-10

What is everyone else going for?

Paul to ft the gp at 100-1

I like the Derby bet, evens on Betfair

Backed them midweek against Blackpool as i thought they were overpriced. Think they will do pretty well this year. Jason Shackell is a great signing from Barnsley.

Evens seems a very good price against a Doncaster team who are struggling with injuries.

don't like derby, quite like donny today

hmmmmmm... i have always followed the rule of not betting until 5-6 games in to season - too much crazy shit happens early on and form not established.
having said that i like Liverpool at Arsenal today.

I have Donny on my mind too.  Market is priced on basis of league table but that doesn't tell story of either teams season so far.  Donny had three very hard games and have been a bit unlucky not to get something out of them especially at Brighton and stats seem to show they were better side in other two games too.  Obviously have plenty of injuries but no new ones since Tuesday night and they are slowly starting to get players back.  I think 4/1 with ladbrokes and paddy power is cracking value.  My initial tissue was 11/4 Donny.

Arsenal are at 2.56 now, but think they are  value if they drift  again.

Don't think Doncaster's results don't reflect their play so far, (3 v.close games which could've gone either way) and they are likely to be  overpriced - though with Derby now  at 2.2, it looks like  that  is mostly factored in.

Southampton at 1.9 look ok value.

Will probs have a bit on Arsenal, Derby and Southampton for interest.

had lumpy bet on preston at 4/6 at home to exeter.

Fancy Sunderland to see off the toon today, other bet is Arsenal and Forest games to end in draws..

I don't think Leeds should ever be more than 3/1 in a game in this division. So I am going for 7/2 Leeds away to West ham.

We played Forest off the park in midweek and our recent record at Pride Park is decent if IRC, although we are missing our hitmen.. so I really think we are akin to Liqourice Allsorts, any result is possible and its a steer clear job for getting involved. That said i'll edge towards the draw, nils each!

this QPR team has to be the worst to ever grace the Premiership

lol, sigh.

lol, yeah WP :)

All my selections...please hold.

booooooooom scunny!

anyone like westbrom +2 at 5/6

Like the side but surely that price isn't an Asian line?  is it a tie loser line?  You should be able to get slightly better.  I have layed Chelsea @ 1.31.....fairly simple case of overrated side v underrated side for me.

lol, I hate gatso.

That is all.

yeh tie is a loser, 10/11 was best odds but that was at a firm i can't get a pound on with

lamps looks awful so far this season, mikel isnt very good, torres doesnt want to be on the pitch. West brom very different proposition this season. Expect an onslaught this half but still think the baggies could nick one on the break.

Was more thinking of the +1.5 Asian line on Betfair.....think it was 1.96 or so...although Betdaq normally better for Asian lines because SBO and Singbet put some volume through them and obv no PC.

liked stoke last week so worth a punt on them today in small dbl with leeds

stoke are a whole different proposition at home vs a big/decent team than away at a smaller club. I backed them last week but wagtmh would pick the canaries this week.

true but i think 7/4 is a decent price.

leeds at 5/1 gotta be backable now.

Stoke's away form last year wasn't good.
Promoted team first game at home is worth a bit.... Norwich for me.

Also laying West Ham as they look too short at 1.6.

I have backed West Ham @ 8/11 but it is getting a bit ridic now.  Other bets for me today is Boro@ 11/10 and Man City -1 @ 12/5 (tie loser)

need boro for my preston, mkdons, boro treble.

only other bet today is small leeds @ 5/1 and small ht/ft leeds at 10s

wanted to play over 2.5 in this game but wanted 5/6ish so left that. GL all

Yesterday me and my mates were in the pub prior to the Forest game watching Arsenal v Liverpool. Without looking at the team line ups we had a £10 bet on Suarez 1st goal. I placed on my Sky Bet account and my two mates went into the Ladbrokes outside the ground and filled their respective betting slips out.

Obviously 1st goal was OG and and Suarez scored the 2nd. To be frank none of us knew what the ruling was and when we went into Laddies they refused to pay out. With the Forest game about to kick off and not being sure we left if alone and accepted the decision. This morning I have looked at my Sky Bet account and they have paid out (yippee!).

My question is should my mates have been paid or have SKY Bet just been generous?

Own goals do not count for first scorer markets so they should pay out.

Cheers- will give my mates a ring and I hope they have kept their betting slips!

If they haven't they should still go down the shop and demand to speak to the manager and tell him what happened.

Should be able to locate their bets on the system and have a serious word with whoever was working at the time.

Yep - I used to work for Ladbrokes and your bet is a winner.  Be very insistent though and tell them that you will be calling HQ if they won't pay.  It is a fairly well known scam for some fraudulent betting shop staff to pay themselves the winnings in cases like this when the average punter thinks his bet is a loser or a result changes through stewards etc.

On another note because of this rule it is always better to bet on no goalscorer if you fancy no goals in a game rather than 0-0.  Is same price but No goalscorer is winner if only goal in game is an own goal.

FWIW I have copied and pasted Ladbrokes rule here for your info:

First goalscorer

Stakes are refunded on any player who takes no part in the match or who comes on as substitute after the first goal has been scored. Own goals do not count for first goalscorer purposes and are ignored for settlement purposes. On some matches the first goalscorer betting may be limited to one specific team.

LOVE man utd tonight at 8/13 cannot believe they are this price, GET ON

on!  Well, on Man U -1 on the AH at just over evens.  Rooney to score first too

really? quite fancied spurs.... evans smalling and jones all starting at the back

on the spurs. gogogogogogogo bale, bale will tear u apartttttt

Head-to-head

    * Tottenham have failed to win any of their last 24 meetings with Manchester United in all competitions.
    * Spurs' last victory over United was a 3-1 success in May 2001 at White Hart Lane. They have failed to win any of the subsequent 20 league matches, two FA Cup ties and two League Cup games.
    * It's 22 years since Spurs last won at Old Trafford - a 1-0 victory in December 1989 courtesy of a Gary Lineker goal.

Thanks guys for your feedback. At the time we were told that the bet didn't stand as it was registered as a NO GOALSCORER bet. My mates have rung Laddies and whilst they had chucked the betting slip they told them the shop they placed the bet on and Ladbrokes have agreed to pay out! Really pleased I put the post on as it is £60 back for them so thanks again!

Bit late but with trigg on this one.....I missed the 4/6 boat but have backed a couple of value correct scores for MU to win by a decent margin.

anyone got any strong views on tonight, not looked and don't think i will

Villa best 1-5 shot for a while- got small squad, so not gonna rest too many players- and youngsters that are coming in are decent- Albrighton, Clarke, Delfonso- Hereford possibly worst team in the competition and McCleish come out and said he wants to take the comp seriously as he won it last year

Don't really do 1-5 shots, reckon villa -1.75@8-11 is worth a punt-with lads?
Get paid and get that member of staff in trouble for being an angle shooting lil twat.

I like west brom away to bournemouth @10-11

Swans starting line up already confirmed and looks strong v Shrews.

MK to big at 5's v Norwich for me, likewise Hudd 7/2 v Cardiff

Wolves away at League 2 Northampton.
Mick will rest players but some decent players still lining up : Dorus De Vries, Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, Nenad Milijas, Kevin Foley, George Elokobi, Michael Kightly, Adam Hammill and Jody Craddock.

VC doing full refunds if one team lets you down on a 5 fold/+ on carling cup, max bet £25.

http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/pages/show/75121-don-t-hit-the-bar (http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/pages/show/75121-don-t-hit-the-bar)

You can EVS for £25 if you want?

yeah i couldnt back west brom with stolen money tonight, dean court tough place to go

had a cheeky £5er yankee


charlton 15/8
doncaster 21/10
wycombe 14/5
bournemouth 3/1

Weak Leeds team, should still do it though

Charlton have made 11 changes. Still looks surprisingly strong for a league 1 reserve team though

Charlton won't win

Burnley, Wolves, West Brom treble for me.

Some dodgy coupon betting for me:

Dinamo Zagreb @ 11/10, Crawley @ 5/2, WBA @ 10/11, Reading @ 6/4, Raith @ Evens and QoS @ 5/6.  Trebles and up.

Ok so they will make 11 changes but still win.

Good side.

our 2nd 11 would probs be competitive in league 1, delighted to see them beat a championship team

powell definitely wasn't taking it seriously though. as well as making 11 changes he only sent out 10 men for a while at the start of the 2nd half

Mikel Alonso yet to feature aswell, squad looking really strong.
Pritchard and Evina looked really good.

mkdons 10/11 at home vs stevanage on saturday.... be quick

Newcastle, HT/FT  (17/10) on Thursday at Shrewbusry. We have a much bigger squad this year and players like Williamson, Harper, Marveux, Ba, Guthrie, Obertran, Lovenkrands, Gosling are proven international players who will hopefully put 3/4 past the Shrews

'tis Scunthorpe buddy.

[  ] Shrewsbury

good shout

still available in Hills shops this morning.

Pretty certain you aren't playing Shrewsbury....they beat Swansea last night.

You can bet 18/10 with me if you like??  Anything up to £200 is fine.

£136, will send on Moneybookers - 2/1?

i'll take that bet! :)

was on at 10/11 for a fair chunkage

2/1 is a bit rich for me.....will do you 15/8 for £100 if you like that is the true price I make it.

bet everton ht/ft at 1/1 tonight. gogp

You can get 6/5 with Stan James met

ive struck up a good relationship with 365 and can get bets on here without problem. They always chuck me free £50 bets in when i reach a landmark turnover. SJ can't get a bean on

MBN to have a good relationship with 365.  I have never had an account there get past it's third bet.  Probably changed a bit now but I always found them really hard to get on with.

i know for a fact im winning with them aswell, not huge but £7k over 4 years

never had them refer a bet, and always chuck free bully's my way.

Maybe they have links with other firms in terms of discussing individual customer profitability

I'll put this out there but make of it what you will.

Scunthorpe play Newcastle tonight in the Carling cup.

I'm interested in the corner count.  I saw Scunthorpe last tuesday lose at hom to Oldham 1-2, but they won the corner count 7-0.

They then played away at Charlton on sat and won the corner count 12-2.  So 19-2 over the last 2 games.

They are 9/4 to have more corners than Newcastle tonight, I think at a tight ground like Glanford Park with the pace on the wings that Scunny play its a good bet, barhcam on the left and Duffy on the right.

Also like the 10/11 for them to have +4.5 corners.

9/4 with bet365, low as 6/4 with Paddy.

sounds like a decent punt at that price.

im on the match bet. Love the bet. TY

Also on

if anyone wants to get on at bet365 can prob get £100 on at 9/4 dont wanna push it, had £100 myslef. You will then owe me credit of where you can get on, or £100 pounds to my bank

so glad i been super busy would have snap took redarmis bet.

Just how bad is Scottish football?  It takes remarkable talent to get knocked out of Europe twice before September.

made me chuckle