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Stoke to beat QPR @ 5-6  look the stand out bet this weekend

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/stoke-v-qpr/winner

Anyone know the best place I can bet on Soton winning by 3 or more goals at the weekend?

I have a £200 bet at even money that Newcastle will take 7 points or more from:

Stoke (a) won 3-1
Everton (h) won 2-1
Man City (a)
Man Utd (a)
Chelsea (h)
Norwich (a)

Obviously I need one more point to scoop the bet.

What's my best strategy to make sure I can't lose?

Let it ride.

think I might whack it all on us to beat chelsea as well. will feel like I'm freerolling.

If they cant take 1 point from the next 4 matches then youre not fated to win

Sounds more like a bet boast to me  :)

Good Luck

Coral has the best price for your bet @7 -2..........Prices on the link below

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/southampton-v-brighton/winning-margin

BEWARE !.. this is not a strong market place so they are not the best value odds....also make sure you identify the correct market as some firms quote " to win by 3 goals margin EXACTLY"  and other are " to win by 3 goals OR MORE"

I hope this helps

Peace x

valencia @ 11/2 v real madrid is interesting me.

they've been playing really well and maybe should have beaten barca. They have an excellent defence.

Yea i think their too big too. I will be laying real.

hope you all got on.

tytyty.

Lawl, so you asking what the price was has turned into you tipping it?

I asked the best price for it to bet on ?! Pretty much a guaranteed result with us having 6 first 11 players out injured V a team who had won 20 home games in a row and a rivalry built from last year :) Looking forward to smashing Blackburn next season in the champ tho.

Zero chance. Rovers aint going down. More likely Brighton do.

Lol, if you believe that, whats your max bet V me?

£1.50

 ;D

Given the team news...and the fact they have the passionate home crowd behind them I think that ..

Liverpool to win  @ 10-11  (draw no bet ) is decent value today

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/liverpool-v-manchester-city/draw-no-bet

they've been crap at home though, right?

I like two bets this weekend...

In form Newcastle with their great home support are home to Chelsea and their indifferent defence.... Selection.....Newcastle to win  2-1 draw no bet   LOST

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-chelsea/draw-no-bet

Go with Wolves and their home support against Managerless ,No Strikers and out of form Sunderland ...Selection   Wolves to win  8 - 11  draw no bet WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/wolverhampton-v-sunderland/draw-no-bet

why do you make the draw no bets? do you do it as a rule?

Hi

I dont always back on draw no bet , I just look for value (subjective)...but over the years Ive learned this is a much more profitable way of staking/betting on football

Liverpool V Man City was an example....you could of backed both teams at 6-4 with the draw at 9 -4 ... or 10-11/evens on either with money back for the draw..granted not as bigger odds but you are betting on a more favourable percentage book

The draw generally is the ideal result  for the bookmakers and its quite amazing how many times it occurs especially in closely contested matches ...In my opinion its better for the draw not to be a loser for the punter...

Happy to try and answer more if needed

Why not just back the Asian Handicap at one of the Asians where the over round is relatively small?

I do play the Asian handicap but Im just trying to simplify it for this forum as some people dont  really dont understand either market...Sometimes the % or over round can be better on the draw no bet market ...you just have to hunt for the best price

Why do you place such a huge emphasis on the home crowd (featured heavily in all 3 selections)?

makes sense. but if it happens a lot in crucial matches, why not bet on it?

A Vehement home crowd that gets behind the side can really make a big difference to the players.Some examples of these grounds (in my opinion ) are Stoke,Liverpool,Newcastle,Wolves,Spurs,Chelsea, Norwich,Sunderland (not recently ) who normally  get behind their team.

Quiet home grounds include Villa, Wigan,Fulham,Bolton,Blackburn, even Man Utd and Arsenal can be a graveyard.. especially when things are not going well

Supporters of some the above teams may agree or disagree..I can only base it on what Ive seen over the years

Why bet on Anything ?     Value is my main reason  (subjective)

If f I fancy a team and the odds are favourable...then I will bet draw no bet sometimes knowing I have the draw as a "safety net"

Better to read a post and understand what has been written before replying ,that way it will contribute to a more constructive site

I have had a big bet on Blackburn to receive the most bookings points vs Swansea today at 29/20 with Hills  Rovers have had 31 yellows and 2 reds against Swans 19 yellows

Sounded decent logic  although statistics normally favour the away side to make more bookings

Hope it came in ?

Weekend Selections

Norwich look good value at home against a depleted Newcastle side    Norwich to win draw no bet   4 - 5   @ skybet  WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/norwich-v-newcastle/draw-no-bet

Liverpool have more than enough to defeat QPR at home . A short price but worth a big bet  Liverpool to beat  QPR in 90 minutes  4 - 11 @ coral  WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/liverpool-v-qpr/winner

I like Palace at 7/2 at a "worst team we played this season" forest.

not bad shame leeds cost me a grand :( still healthy profit.

Event/Market description    Status
Norwich City v Newcastle United : Match Betting, Norwich City, 7/5    Won
Watford v Leeds United : Match Betting, Leeds United, 8/5    Lost
Coventry City v Hull City : Match Betting, Hull City, 7/5    Won
Nottingham Forest v Crystal Palace : Match Betting, Crystal Palace, 7/2    Won

Nice work.

Was at the Forest vs Palace game today.

Forest weren't that bad until the conceeded and then looked completely devoid of ideas. Going to have trouble scoring enough goals to stay up imo. Palace looked an mediocre championship side will probably finish midtable.

rofl backed ipswich coz camel kept harping on about Barnsley :P ship it.

2 Selections This weekend

In form Norwich to win away at out of form Everton  Draw no Bet  9 - 2   DRAW =MONEY BACK

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/everton-v-norwich/draw-no-bet

Big Bet on Spurs to beat Sunderland at a short price  2 - 5  WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/tottenham-v-sunderland/winner

Spurs aren't playing QPR #justsayin

Sunderland  ofc   cheers   :)

Liking Spurs at home to beat Chelsea this Thursday Evening  Draw no Bet @ 5 -6  DRAW = MONEY BACK

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/tottenham-v-chelsea/draw-no-bet

 2.04 (evens after commision) on Betfair

Yep on this..like this bet

I Fancy Liverpool to turn over Newcastle tonight and found this is the way to do it

4 units on Liverpool Half time  Liverpool FT @ 6 -4 on betfair  LOST... and a saver..... 1 unit on draw half time Liverpool FT @ 4 -1 on betfair (which breaks even ) WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/liverpool-v-newcastle/half-time-full-time

All winnings to go straight on Arsenal to beat QPR tomorrow @ at a very short priced 30 - 100   WON  
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/arsenal-v-qpr/winner

Good Luck if you join me

Have Norwich draw no bet at 1.9 which I thought was a nice bet considering fulhams horrible away record

Also have west brom same price same bet

A lot of people seem to agree with you about Liverpool Fraser... the price just keeps dropping.

I have to say I'm stumped as to why though... Liverpool's home form has been shocking, Suarez isn't playing, Newcastle have been scoring all season and have nearly a full squad again.

I'm a Liverpool fan and generally try to stay away from Liverpool matches when betting, but I can't ignore this price. Last time I checked Liv were 1.53 in the Match Odds.

I've laid a lump at the low price on Betfair, thinking that if the match starts reasonably evenly as I expect it to that people will come to their senses and the price will be driven up to 1.68/1.69ish within 15-20 mins, allowing me to trade to a profit.

I think Liverpool should edge this match, but for me they won't have it all their own way, which is what the price suggests.

Paddy Power are still going 4- 7 but are restricting bets

Logic re what you say about Newcastle.. I just think Liverpool  will have too much for them  ( Ba plays )

A perfect stage for Carroll and Bellamy  ( confirmed attack ) against their old club + the Anfield crowd etc should see them home

Can't see why Liv are that price at all, I've gone for Newc +1 at 2.05

Just out of interest....my fgs bet of Demba Ba......where do I stand?  Is it a losing bet?  The stadium dude says Demba Ba scored but after 25 replays it may well be an Agger own goal.

Someone tell me I'm getting paid!

Losing bet obv, money on Bellers gets paid!

Well, you shouldn't be stood to start with

Defo Cabayes or Oggy, should be Cabayes imo, header was going towards goal.

Like these selections  & Can make a case for both ..good luck (have joined you with Norwich )


PS  Dont forget Arsenal to crush QPR   Im also having bets on Arsenal to beat them      4 -0    14 -1
                                                                                                                                    5 -0    33 -1
                                                                                                                                    6 -0    66 -1   all at Ladbrokes

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/arsenal-v-qpr/correct-score

Good Luck if you join me & a Happy New Year

Peace x

strange day... got out of jail with norwich.. i mean wtf Fulham ?

West brom game now has double meaning as have them draw no bet and last leg of a pretty triple that was barnsley overs and coventry unders... have the under under 2.5..so 1-0 west brom please

On Monday Like Wolves to beat Chelsea at home for value @ 4 -1 draw no bet    LOST

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/wolverhampton-v-chelsea/draw-no-bet

We got 11 players out at the moment (Brighton)

Soton looks good value based on that, couple of youth teamers will be involved.

Had money on City today but almost worth losing to sort of share the feeling the Sunderland fans must've just had :-)

Sigh...at least the triple came in bringing a decent profit..had man city few as well.... Both games today were dreadful to watch

Please give me your wisdom buddy an tell me what u predict the result to be between man city v Liverpool ?

Not sure its wisdom but Ill give you my opinion as Ive already looked closely at this one

All 3 results are possible as  any Liverpool team with Gerrard at the hearbeat and Bellamy on fire has a good chance...however Manchester City have scored any average of 3.11 goals  every premiership game at home this season which is a phenomanal figure so The odds correctly have them as favourites .

Conclusion...Before making a decision its essential to find out if Gerrrard starts for Liverpool as he is massive player ...if he doesnt then you would have to favour city however its too close to call so Im afraid my advice would be No Bet

Didnt really help no bet normally means cant go far wrong with a draw but i know who i would like to win even though i like both teams an mangers! btw u come across as a Liverpool fan ? Read wrong  ?

Sheffield Wednesday are my team but follow the premiership very closely especially the relegation / to stay up market.

You asked for my advice and told you the way I see it   :) I think its pointless advising a bet without an edge or price value and Im afraid nothing stands out here.

Although a draw is feasible if anybody ever recomends it ( unless it suits both sides like in a group format ) its ostensibly a guess rather than a bet based on logic .

Good Luck which ever option you go for  :)

On that note i backed Bolton to go down at 13/8 a few weeks ago ! Looking good so far !

Gerrard and Bellamy dont start so very hard for Liverpool in my opinion

Maybe a bit of evens Man City is okay

I've dabbled on 0-0 in the Wigan/Sunderland game, reckon they'll both be knackered and settle for a point.

I thought Newcastle were a very well balanced hard working unit away at Liverpool

Manchester United however were very lame at home to Blackburn and need a massive improvement

Newcastle will be more less be at full strength & no doubt Fergie will make changes for a Man Utd (Giggs ,Ferdinand and Rooney in contention according to sky sports ) team under pressure to close the gap on Man City,

At present I dont see too much in the teams so given the home crowd /advantage I feel that Newcastle at 3 -1 draw no bet  (7 -2 on betfair )   is a very big price / value  WON

//www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet

Sweet.

Sweet indeed...with Man City and Bolton winning too topped off a good festive period ...fingers crossed it may continue  :)

Classy prediction! obv was happy about result! Bit gutted i didnt lump on City at 10/11 to beat Liverpool other night but hey ho so whos going to win the Preimership then ? Do you think they will hold on now an keep Tottenham an Man utd at bay or shall i go againt my no more betting this year an just lump on at 5/6 City to win Carling cup?!

Fraser, QPR have a magnificent run of games coming up for the next 7 or 8, they will be an even bigger price on March 11th.

Some are easier than others agreed, but they do have Barton out for the next 2 premiership games..their next 3 are Newcastle away( very difficult ) Wigan at home  (depends which Wigan turn up ) Villa away (very difficult )   

Obviously the transfer window is open but even with money to spend I think they will struggle to attract quality players, thus making a team that in its last 11 games  1 won, drawn 2, and lost 8 ridiculously over priced even taking into account the next 7/8 games...Just my very strong opinion  :)

Lost 4 on the bounce at home?

Man City..will probably win the premiership( the question i there anybody good enough to go past them ? ) and If you are going to have a bet you could do a lot worse than just about the right price @ 1-2

As regards the carling cup ..I thinks its best left alone(city could win of course ) as maybe  Liverpool could turn them over in the semis

Of which three were Arsenal, Utd and Liverpool. Difficult to read a lot into that.

Last 5 home games  drawn with west brom...lost to Man City ,Man Utd,Sunderland ,Norwich

Its enough to read that a trip to Villa park is a long way from 'very difficult'.

thats my opinion...got any of your own ?

My opinion is that Villa are a poor team with a manager who must have pulled out his wank sock 10 times over when he realised a Premier league club were after him after his time taking the hugely negative Brum down.  There performance v Chelsea was decent but not spectactular and while that will buy him time, Villa will finish around 13-15th and Villa fans will have wet tear filled pillows for the forseeable future.  Villa have lost 5 from 10 at home, they were a difficult game away v MON's side, not now.

Thats my opinion.  :)

Who do you support ChipPrince?

Liverpool (lolpool :) )

They are average agreed ..but think they will still have way too much Against QPR

to be honest I could say that for any team playing QPR in the premier this season :)

Music to my ears !

Although strictly not premier League... man city fa cup tie... couldnt resist man city at 2.2 ftw

Agree that Villa away isn't "very difficult", they are in a slump, lost to Swansea who have a terrible away record and Villa fans against there manager from day 1.

I'd get involved with City at that price if it weren't for the run Man U are on, only team who make me less want to back against them when they're in a mini blip, plus City have a lot of midfielders missing which is where they would crush Man U.

I think Man City are a very good to beat Man Utd thing either @ 2.2  outright or a big bet @   4 - 7 draw no bet  lost

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/fa-cup/manchester-city-v-manchester-united/draw-no-bet

this price is going/gone...lot of money for city

4/6 DNB now

Ahead of you..just been offered £30 by skybet  :)

Sad but Funny

on saturday villa at home to beat everton draw no bet looks good at 3-4     draw = money back

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/aston-villa-v-everton/draw-no-bet


on sunday Newcastle to beat QPR at home looks the bet with my blinkered viewpoint  8 -11  WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-qpr/winner

I wouldn't back us at 8/11, QPR have the new manager factor and we are still unproven for how we are going to cope without Tiote/Ba, this would be a definite fade for me. Also recent results at home against Swansea/WBA add to me wanting to fade this.

You are the MAN!

WP Fraser, glad you where right  ;)

lol

3 fancies this weekend

On saturday...

In form Norwich at home to indifferent Chelsea at nearly 4 -1 draw no bet on betfair looks massive   DRAW  =  NO BET

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/norwich-v-chelsea/draw-no-bet

Bolton are not a  particulary good team, but playing at home a little investment at a big 7 -2 draw no bet against a lacklustre Liverpool looks decent value.  WON

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/bolton-v-liverpool/draw-no-bet

and on Sunday.......

Man City at to beat Spurs ....looks good at  10 -11  WON
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/manchester-city-v-tottenham/winner

Good Luck if you join me !

...also like Blackburn to beat Everton  4-1 draw no bet    DRAW  =MONEY BACK

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/everton-v-blackburn/draw-no-bet

Going in again with big bet on Man City  to beat Spurs after team news  @ 10-11  WON

Which bit of team news inspired you to do that?

The team news put me off backing City.

Savic has been terrible every time I have seen him. Richards at cb would have been much better imo.

Nasri has been very disappointing so far.

Also Balotelli >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dzeko.

I want City to win for my outright bet, but I couldn't back them today at 10/11 with forged currency.

Agree with Keith.  10/11 is no bargain for a City team with neither Toure or Balotelli.  I think Evens would be about the right price.

Man U big at 7/4 though surely?

Agree with this.

Really surprised at the move in the market for Arsenal.

I thought Man Utd were a good bet at 6/4.

I like the 3 way attack of Dzeko ,Aguero and Silva against what I think is a suspect defence of  the lot slower( this season ) king,.....kaboul and the dire assou ekkoto

City always seem to step up a gear this season against bigger clubs...thats the way I see it .

Fingers crossed for your /our bets

Rollercoaster... Lucky Scrape in the end...Still  A win is a win

Such a massive luckbox Fraser, charmed  :P

66/1 for newcastle to finish in the top 4....value?7

i only ask because the spread on some sites goes from 11/1 all the way out to 66, so 66 must be value? or am i doing it wrong... (wearing those blind geordie optimism glasses again?)

the 11- 1 is 32 reds old price not updated yet..

66 -1 is with sky bet , who might lay you £1 if you are lucky...but there is 50-1 with b365 and chandlers who tend to play the game.

Considering Newcastle are 1 point in front of Liverpool who are 4-1 tops , I think 66-1 is a very big price and worth a tickle especially when they get the Senegal sharp shooters back from Africa

A definite good value find sir

please let me know if Sky bet lay you anything   :)

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/top-4-finish

i got a £10 at 66/1 with skybet :)

Not sure what game you are playing but they don't play it with me!!!!

Not with standing the fact Im on QPR to be relegated and they have added a few new faces I still think this is a massive price on Wednesday night

Selection  Aston Villa to beat QPR  @ 5 -6

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/aston-villa-v-qpr/winner

Newcastle at almost 2/1 looks value away to blackburn.

Anyone can have 9/10 with me if they want.

These look value to me tomorrow:-

Sunderland DNB 6/4
Swansea DNB 13/8
Blackburn DNB 8/1

Ten teams playing in the 3 o' clock games have managed 1 goal between them at half time, in fact there have been more red cards than goals.

Seems that making sure you don't get beaten for 70 minutes and then see how it stands is becoming the norm in a huge % of these games.

Quite like Spurs DNB @ 2.00

Stoke 13/10 is a great bet
Toon to beat wolves is easy money

Looking tough for QPR from here Fraser

Thats what he wants!

I know, I need em down too.

Hopefully the run in will get em.

Stopped offering my advice as  generally too much aggro on here, however for the good of the greater cause this  this bet stands out as great value to me

Wigan have now got their best 11 players fit and this was evident v Norwich last week

They are their fighting for their premiership survival whereas WBA are safe ...so Wigan to beat WBA  @ 11 -10  draw no bet at WilliamHills

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/wigan-v-west-brom/draw-no-bet

i think norwich will go up to st james's on sunday to enjoy the game, easily safe and i think they are a good bet to beat a newcastle team who i fear will end the season very poorly. at almost 4/1 i think its a decent price.

Good to have you back Fraser. I can't trust Wigan myself, they don't defend well enough and West Brom have done well enough away for me to leave it but best of luck.

Not withstanding my season long bet on QPR to be relegated I think Liverpool will win tonight at a good price

If this match was held at Anfield Liverpool they would be a minimum 2-7 shot so 17-20 looks very over priced

I  think this is worth "a maximum " bet Ill let you decide the amount (£200 wins £170 + stake back )

Ladbrokes is the place to bet @17-20 and if that fails Coral @ 5 -6

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/qpr-v-liverpool/winner

As a stand alone bet...as already stated on tikays thread

Sunderland to beat QPR looks very big @ 23-20 with Chandlers or 11-10 elsewhere

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/sunderland-v-qpr/winner

Really fancy Chelsea to beat sp*urs today, not sure why, probably wishful thinking but Chelsea at evens and at home does it for me

1-1 Torres first goalscorer

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lel1h8IaYK1qc8snk.gif)

LOOOOOL

Will need to see the Chelsea team first.
They will have a big think for midweeks champions league game.

Todays game was bigger for Chelsea than the CL game, and they where poor, Spurs should've won.

Spurs should have won but it's perfect result for arsenal and they are 2-0 ATM v villa
Weeeeeeeeee

Yeah Arsenal are the form team in the lge at the minute, great turnaround. It's lucky they didn't sack Wenger  ;dingdell;

On Sunday (4pm kick off )West Brom to beat Newcastle  draw no bet looks value @4 -6 with Boyles or Stan James  (8-15 elsewhere)  If you cant get 4 -6 or better I suggest no bet

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/west-brom-v-newcastle/draw-no-bet

Didn't you win last time you bet against us ? :(

Hi Ray ...hope you are well.... apologies..didnt see your last post

Yes I think last time I tipped liverpool to beat to the toon and before that you boys to turn over Man U'td so was 2 from 2

They played well yesterday and thourghly deserved the result...I didnt have a big bet so still turned out to be a good weekend with QPR losing to "your mates"  :)

I think they will be up for it against Liverpool next weekend...3-0  Cisse2 Ba1   :)

I am good mate thanks, yourself ?

Yeah we where excellent yday, or at least in the 1st half we where, Ben Arfa was amazing. It's very unlikely that Liverpool will end up with an 0 at the end of Sunday, Colo is out so our defence may well be Williamson/Perch at CB. Willaimson is in the worst form he's ever shown since coming here and Perch has always looked dodgy to me in defence although he's played well recently, albeit in a midfield role.

yes good thanks Ray

Ben Arfa looked god like yesterday especially when he runs at people and gets on the over lap

Cheers for the heads up on the team news..Ill maybe wait for a bet now but if you hear any more please let me know mate

I have just tipped up over 2.5 goals in tikay's thread, see thread for reasoning.

See you at DTD for UKIPT, you playing the Friday ?

There has been a big market move for Liverpool Today,  a team out of form losing its last 2 matches to bottom 3 sides in QPR & Wigan

Newcastle looked great when winning at West Brom Last week with Ben Arfa on fire + a goal threat of Cisse & Ba .

Although without Collicini in defence  today they will have the passionate 50,000 + Geordie home ground behind them ...

I think with the market move for Liverpool  it has left Newcastle at a big price so11 - 8 draw no bet @ BET  Victor or Bet 365 represents tremendous value

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/newcastle-v-liverpool/draw-no-bet

Going against the grain again...just really pointing out a very big (wrong ) price for Wigan to win at Chelsea today

Im not saying they will win but they have come into form ( Beating Liverpool away & Stoke )and the price is ridiculously big at 11-1 draw no bet

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/chelsea-v-wigan/draw-no-bet

I  think the main bet for me today are Norwich playing  Everton at fortress Carrow Road.

They represent decent value too as they can be backed at  11-10 draw no bet

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/norwich-v-everton-fc/draw-no-bet