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BBL Nottingham Live Day 1a
$140 buy in

243 runners, no exits. top 90 paid.

blinds 50/100 - 2nd level. Starting stack 15k

Hero stack 19k

Opponent stack 15.5k

Average is 15k

Hero steady away early doors, not lost at showdown.

Opponent is active, often limping. almost always firing at flops.

Opponent raises EP to 375

Hero is the button and 3bets to 1025 with  Ahrt Ad

This is where it gets interesting..

Opponent tosses in 2100 but with no obvious verbal declaration.

As I'm dwelling whether to smooth or 5bet, someone asks why the dealer hasn't done the flop, claiming the guy said call. I ask the dealer what his action is, all the while villain is saying nothing.
the dealer thought it was a raise as he heard no verbal call and we call the floor.

The TD rules that as only a couple of players heard the 'call' and the dealer didn't, it stands as a raise. Villain still hasn't said anything to agree or disagree.
I then 5bet to about 5900, wanting to look like abit of a steal, picking up on his 'mistake', hoping that if he has a hand he shoves but he just flats.


 Kc Qs Jc

Opponent checks

Hero checks

Turn  3h

Opponent bets 6,000

Hero calls

River   6d

Opponent bets all in, just 4,000

Us?
His hand?

Appreciate any constructive comments to help my game, ty

You've made your decision on the turn, no?

fold turn

Shove turn folding would be ridic here imo

What range do you think the guy is calling 5900 with pre flop here ?

More to the point what hands is he definitely not going to flat (kk qq jj). As described by op hes stabbing at a lot of flops and limping alot and by point he can have aq ak kt all off which are a) probably stabbing now as described and b) not folding now

Think in a lot of live tourns people are suddenly aware their QQ, JJ may not be good. They can't bring themselves to pass and flat to set mine here.

This is very true.

Ok fair enough but even so with the preflop situation as described this is a bit more unlikely imo, also even if it's true then it will also be true for several other hnads that we have locked up here

Wasnt too sure how long to leave this til i put in the outcome..
i called the all in bet on the river and he showed KK.

In hindsight and thinking of the hard, im only really beating AK and i dont think theres much chance of him betting the turn and shoving the river for value given my obvious strength.
The pot was massive by the river and i agree, i guess my decision was made on the turn. im not passing on the river.

anything i could have done about this hand really?

thanks for comments :)

Yeah you could of shoved pre , oh wait he calls and you still lose.

Agree he probs plays AK AQ and KT the same but we have two aces, and if he has these then he has KQ KJ QJ AT plus QQ and JJ some of the time. Stuff like 78s doesn't sound like something described villian would be opening pre so i want to discount random spazzing from his range a lot and assume this flop hit him in the face.

I know it's easy to say now, but i'd have layed 600-1 he doesnt have KT at the time

we're thinking he calls 59big blinds preflop with noantes wih KT? or even wants to call the initial 3bet?

he has KK 91%, QQ 6% AK 3% and yes i did just completely make these numbers up :P

But they are totally right

5900 and jam are pretty much the same here imo, if you wanna induce some sort of spazz I think you're more likely to get it with a 4100ish sizing. Pot is still big enough pre to get it in on one street postflop.

I think jam pre is best. Given the cover of the 'call or raise' debacle he's not gunna find a fold with any of his value 4bet range.

As played fold turn though

Not too sure where the 'interesting' part is.

Prefer to shove pre. Raise to induce is fine but amount should be less to give illusion of FE.

If I've put 40% of my stack in pre with AA I don't care what the flop is, the rest is joining it.

The alternative would be to continue in the tourney with 13K or so at 100-200, very passive but not the end of the world to just shut down on this flop as I think we can be about as certain as you can be in this game of what he has.

Easy with hindsight I suppose as I might well, in that position, shove the flop when checked to me in a cryey kind of way thinking at least I have a few outs to a set. I think I would do this cause I'm average, if people want to be better then there are other options that might bruise our egos but ensure we live.

I think what the OP is referring to is the fact that the TD was called over pre and that the villan didn't speak once. In my experience, when there is a debate like this pre and the villan doesn't talk, he's tring to hide the strength of his hand. Being has we have AA, it's quite likely he has AK+ and prob JJ+.

I don't want to sound results orientated but I spoke to the OP before he posted and before i knew the outcome and thought it was a fold on the turn having checked. I advised him to post for the analysis on Blonde as he thought that just check folding AA was a bit nitty.

GL in the future Chris your a good thinker, keep it up and ;welcome; to Blonde!

The whole comp is a nits dream. Most people could not fold and pretty much played their hands face up.
I know a lot of players think that plAying recreational opponents in a small buy in comp is a mine field and this could be evidenced by the fact that so many named and bounty players never made day 2 but this hand looks pretty straight forward. The number of people advocating folding dem Aces itt and the number of people actually doing it in the heat of battle would be totally different tho. ;)

gomarrrahh is a good film

Shove pre.

5900 w/o knowing his true intention (and the fact that he's aware you have no idea) is super strong.

Just shove, and hope he picks it off with a pair / AK / AQ type hands.

As for the hand itself, as played OTF, I'm b/f flop.

I hate checking this flop because we completely ruin any chance to find out where we are (even this shallow).