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Hand ruling I know this is boring but just wondered


I was in a hand that involved me being aipf with kings

First card king

He did a hissy fit and tried to turn his hand over but threw one card off the table

Should his hand be dead? The card went out of my vision

But when he did hissy fit show the card hit the dealers hand


What should the ruling be?

Also I lost the hand also

cash or tourney

Cash

Haha, hissy fit.

Awesome.

Hand is live imo

50p please.

Also what did you lose to also?

Also, what did the board read also?

very dead imo

I'd rather die than claim a pot that way.

Why?

Card leaves the table then your hand is dead. Thought that was the rule?

All cards must be shown in an all-in situation in tournies. Hand is live and penalty after the hand for hissy fit if the cards were thrown violently as such a card came off the table.

Lose gracefully, karma will come ................... eventually lol

BTW if it was all-in pre the dealer shouldn't have dealt the board until the offending player had already tabled his cards.

Different animal,

Hand could be declared dead.

then asked to leave said cardroom.

'Could' is too ambiguous rich. What SHOULD happen?

Agree with tikay's sentiment. As long as I don't think the guy is cheating then I'm never ever even gonna mention the card going off the table or asking for his hand to be dead.

Ah, I've just seen that Paul says he tried to show his hand!

Tricky spot this, and I'm with tikay. It happened to me this year, (slightly different as the guy tried to muck his hand 3 times and the dealer gave it back to him).

If cards off table is a dead hand, then I'm happy it's declared dead. He wouldn't do it again, and that is often the best way to learn.

What would be the ruling if he threw his cards face up into the muck? I think that is a comparable!

If his hand is live here we obv need to count and check deck I'd suggest?

Depends on House Rules.

Common Sense should prevail, if the card that flew off was easily identified then it should play, but if it came off the table under the table (where a card could possibly be switched etc) then dead.

Face up into the muck, the cards have been tabled (badly) and are live.

Saw a similar spot (though in a Tourney at the weekend), involving Glenda, who lost his entire stack when the other cards fell off the Table, & Glenn never even considered appealing.

Guess it depends how badly you wanna win.

Did he ask to chop it?

It's not a case of asking for the hand to be killed, it's more a case of the rules state if a card leaves the table, then the hand is dead.

Very much ^^^ this, but it usually means before the hand has finished, otherwise a dead hand in this spot should result in the previous bet being returned. Could be used as a stroke.

On reflection, As this is an all-in situation, hand should be live unless the card goes out of view.

Which it normally does if it leaves the table.

Anyway, hand should be killed purely because he has had a hissy fit. What is the matter with these people?

Was the card face up in flight, or an attempted face down muck?

Fair point.

Not sure what I like least - the brain deads who throw hissy fits, or those who are so desperate to win a hand they try to claim it on a technicality.

Hope you're not talking about paul ho tikay as he is incredible.

Got greensteined hee had aces

He tried to show his hand but hit dealers

Pretty retarded how it happened

But I woulda offered the money back tbh

Didn't really wanna get beaten up for 500£

But I could run alot faster then him ........

Good man you.

Fwiw I never tried to claim the hand was dead I just wanted to see what he was crying about
He could had ak


Just want to know what the real rules were tbh kinda iffy spot

As I Posted, "if the cap fits". That's what it means.

The dealer was the one who kicked up the fuss also who called the poker manager guy over


I just sat there

FYP

I'm blind now need to wear glasses to play poker :'(:'(:'(
Fucking hate it

You don't get many feck ups with staff at Dtd, and because they have a well lit room it's easier to see your cards. Just saying ;)

Similar thing happened very deep in a tourney in Scotland one time, villain was just in one massive tilt-crescendo from the moment we sat down. Some guy was needling him as the hand went heads up pre, he shoved this huge stack and the other guy smiles, and calls another huge stack with AA. I kinda have a flashbulb memory of what happened next, the guy managed to make his cards fly one way and his chair fly the other, it was quite epic. Also was able to retrieve the cards also, and tbh there were tears I think at this point, but he just shoved them into the muck as the dealer was swilling it around. TD, a friend of his, came over to see what the fuss was about, and amazingly bought his sob story about the needling, and commanded that his cards be *retrieved from the muck* and the hand continue :o TD's hand was on his shoulder, 'you still have a chance buddy, hang in there.' Amazed dealer starts going through the muck 'to retrieve the tens'
'This yours?' showing him  Th 'No' (slight sob)
'This one?' showing him  Td 'No, they were both black' (he's ready to throw chairs again, everyone else trying not to laugh out loud).
Lost obv, chair went flying again.

doesnt matter i am blind now
need glassess for everything

I love dtd but u need to mix it up abit

i went to leicester gala to paly their 100£ it was sooo much fun ppl was there to have fun and super friendly

in dtd its not like that ppl are so serious it makes me :(

stilll gonna play dtd when i can but just wanna try someting diff

need to improve my game by playing with as many diff ppl and tourneys

big 2012 for me next year