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Title: Dilema?
Post by: Newportlad on December 11, 2011, 11:17:45 AM
Live Tourney at local casino last night.

£35 10K Freezeout.  38 runners 8 left. money starts at 4th.

Final table has dragged on for quite a while, and the blinds are really starting to kick in now.  
Blinds 4k/2K/300.
I'm near or at chip leader with approx 65K. Most people have around 40K,

UTG+1 open shoves for approx 55K
I'm next to act and find  Th Ts

Decision?


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: cambridgealex on December 11, 2011, 11:20:47 AM
all in


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: GreekStein on December 11, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
4k/8k + ante and still half the field to go til the money?

The fact you're cl here doesn't mean too much - we are 3bbs from avg.

Ship all day


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: Newportlad on December 11, 2011, 11:59:56 AM
4k/8k + ante and still half the field to go til the money?

The fact you're cl here doesn't mean too much - we are 3bbs from avg.

Ship all day

My apologies. Blinds are 4K/2K/300    Makes quite a difference. Note to self: Check post before posting..


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: Leatherman on December 11, 2011, 12:00:13 PM
all in
With ya hands in the air


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: GreekStein on December 11, 2011, 12:10:15 PM
Still a shove.

We have a lot of his range crushed/dominated and are flipping against some too.

Live players in small and medium sized buy in comps have a real tendency to open small with AA/KK/QQ so I don't expect us to be crushed an awful lot.


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: Newportlad on December 11, 2011, 02:16:57 PM
Still a shove.

We have a lot of his range crushed/dominated and are flipping against some too.

Live players in small and medium sized buy in comps have a real tendency to open small with AA/KK/QQ so I don't expect us to be crushed an awful lot.

Exactly my thoughts, so i re-shoved.  Person behind folds  Ad Ks.   Villain turns over  Aspades Jc, and of course binks.


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: GreekStein on December 11, 2011, 02:22:28 PM
Yeh so you did nothing wrong.

Did someone berate you for the call or something?

Lol at the ak fold :)


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: mulhuzz on December 11, 2011, 03:58:40 PM
i probably high fivwe the dealer before shoving, but it''s close. sometimes I just slide my chips over the line.


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: Longy on December 11, 2011, 04:24:36 PM
I would get it in, but this certainly isn't as clear as ppl are making out imo.

I think your average live player isn't going to show up with as a wide range as you think here and that range will actually contain jj+ more often than you think.

I think I would sigh fold 99 for example especially with a lot of people to act behind us.



Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: muckthenuts on December 11, 2011, 04:27:18 PM
I would get it in, but this certainly isn't as clear as ppl are making out imo.

I think your average live player isn't going to show up with as a wide range as you think here and that range will actually contain jj+ more often than you think.

I think I would sigh fold 99 for example especially with a lot of people to act behind us.



Online i agree. But live peoples are just going to 3x the top of their range here and shove lots of pairs and high cards we're in good shape against.


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: cambridgealex on December 11, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
never folding 88/99 here


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: GreekStein on December 11, 2011, 04:27:59 PM
Rly longy!? You'd expect JJ+ a lot.

Played a ton of live poker and would expect to see a lot of opening with aa/kk/qq


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: Longy on December 11, 2011, 06:03:42 PM
Ok maybe I am off with my live ranges.

But you are all deffo underestimating the fact that we have 5 ppl to act behind us.


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: mulhuzz on December 11, 2011, 06:22:38 PM
Ok maybe I am off with my live ranges.

But you are all deffo underestimating the fact that we have 5 ppl to act behind us.

if they're all the kind of people that fold AK then it's ok ;)


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: ChipRich on December 14, 2011, 07:50:05 AM
not folding


Title: Re: Dilema?
Post by: BulldozerD on December 14, 2011, 08:58:01 AM
We're jammin'