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Title: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: Rod on December 12, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
Villain playing 43/15
Not folding to many continuation bets either. Should I call on the turn?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BTN): $52.49
SB: $35.22
BB: $36.24
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $21.05
MP: $43.03
CO: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Js Jh

fold, fold, MP raises to $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, fold, MP calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.35, 2 players) 3s Jc Ks
MP checks, Hero bets $4.00, MP calls $4.00

Turn: ($12.35, 2 players) As
MP bets $37.03 and is all-in, fold

MP wins $11.75


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: outragous76 on December 12, 2011, 05:21:52 PM
Really?

We flop the joint and turn the redraw to the second schnizzles on a board where we could easily have coolered him to death

Not folding if he shows me I'm beat



Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: Solaris on December 12, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
Really?

We flop the joint and turn the redraw to the second schnizzles on a board where we could easily have coolered him to death

Not folding if he shows me I'm beat



This.

He could quite easily have Axs with the queen of spades. It's the micro stakes, players do weird and stupid things. Would also expect him to C/R AI with any flush.


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: Bully87 on December 12, 2011, 06:29:17 PM
Hi derrrr QT, probs no spades

Wouldnt fold ever mind. Can flush river, can boat river...get it in. Can so easily turn up with worse too.


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: cambridgealex on December 12, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
Pretty much what has been said already. Call.


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: Rod on December 12, 2011, 08:38:57 PM
Yeah, as I suspected. Thought it was bad when I went back through the hands I had lost. I got scared by the fact that he shoved as the As completed a few draws but his range is clearly bigger than just made hands here and AA or KK are virtually impossible.

OK - bad play by me, must learn to do better :-)


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: pleno1 on December 12, 2011, 09:59:36 PM
i mean i think a fold is perfectly fine in these spots alotof the time, but hes prob not the right oppo to do it vs


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: ChipRich on December 13, 2011, 02:57:55 AM
not folding


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: silverslick on December 13, 2011, 06:11:10 AM
with those stats he could have AK or two psirand thinks he will scare the flush away. I am calling


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: superwomble on December 13, 2011, 12:57:20 PM
Some interesting comments on this hand. I think I'd have had to fold. I saw it mentioned that calling is correct as it's micro and people spaz out, but a massive overbet like this always seems to be the nuts according to hands I have seen that play out like this.


Title: Re: Line Check - Folding Set of Jacks
Post by: Rod on December 13, 2011, 11:30:48 PM
Some interesting comments on this hand. I think I'd have had to fold. I saw it mentioned that calling is correct as it's micro and people spaz out, but a massive overbet like this always seems to be the nuts according to hands I have seen that play out like this.
It would not be the worst play with the nuts which was in the back of my mind. My range is super strong here I think and there is a good chance I can make a bad call, which strangely enough would be a good call even if I lose the hand.

After looking at the hand again and reading the thread and looking at some of the villain's other hands in Poker Tracker, I believe it to be a call, I made a mistake in folding.