Title: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: pleno1 on February 29, 2012, 11:12:13 AM Driving home from football in man A's car...
Police stop car and fine Man A £100 because man C wasn't wearing a seatbelt in the back seat. a) £50 each b) £100 for man A c) £100 for man C Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Graham C on February 29, 2012, 11:15:56 AM Technically it's the drivers responsibility to make sure everyone is wearing a seat belt, however, matey that wasn't should do the decent thing and pay the fine.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: pokerfan on February 29, 2012, 11:18:46 AM B + c's mixed up, but wouldn't expect driver to pay if it was me.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: TheChipPrince on February 29, 2012, 11:19:09 AM d) man C?
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: pleno1 on February 29, 2012, 11:20:52 AM ok. what about if MAN B wasn't wearing one either? 33£ each?
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Josedinho on February 29, 2012, 11:21:43 AM Law says A pays but pretty sure that Man C pays this every time. (Maybe not if he was tied up and thrown on the back seat)
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: outragous76 on February 29, 2012, 11:23:57 AM gl man C ever getting a lift if he leaves driver hanging here
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Rivertony on February 29, 2012, 11:24:49 AM Man C
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: GreekStein on February 29, 2012, 11:25:16 AM man C ainec.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: MC on February 29, 2012, 11:25:21 AM gl man C ever getting a lift if he leaves driver hanging here +1, Man C Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: millidonk on February 29, 2012, 11:27:22 AM Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: gatso on February 29, 2012, 11:27:47 AM is this a trick question? is the fact that they're driving back from football relevant?
unless A is C's carer and therefore responsible for putting on his belt then anything other than C paying the lot is just laughable Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Josedinho on February 29, 2012, 11:31:11 AM Man B offended but wasn't caught? Probably doesn't HAVE to pay but might have been Police not being harsh or just can't issue a fine for same offence at one time. They've made their point and issued a fine.
If I'm Man B I probs chip in. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: DaveShoelace on February 29, 2012, 11:45:28 AM Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Woodsey on February 29, 2012, 11:52:38 AM C
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: AndrewT on February 29, 2012, 11:54:39 AM Man C should clearly pay - they're loaded with that Arab guy running them now.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: tikay on February 29, 2012, 12:16:29 PM Man C should clearly pay - they're loaded with that Arab guy running them now. You are just toooo good, Andrew. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: EvilPie on February 29, 2012, 01:41:52 PM If man C even considers not coughing up for this he's not a friend, he's a twat.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: smashedagain on February 29, 2012, 02:10:54 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on February 29, 2012, 02:17:52 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility I thought this. If i get pulled by the fuzz and all my passengers dont have belts on do i get stumped with the lot? Pretty sure its ur own responsibility if your over 16. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Graham C on February 29, 2012, 02:19:19 PM If i get pulled by the fuzz and all my passengers dont have belts on do i get stumped with the lot? You should probably know the answer to that Girgy :D I'd definately find out if you're not 100% sure! Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on February 29, 2012, 02:22:47 PM If i get pulled by the fuzz and all my passengers dont have belts on do i get stumped with the lot? You should probably know the answer to that Girgy :D I'd definately find out if you're not 100% sure! http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_4022064 When you don't need to wear a seat belt You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're: a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services a passenger in a trade vehicle and you're investigating a fault driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers covers me. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on February 29, 2012, 02:25:42 PM http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/Road_Traffic_Law/Seat_Belts
Adult passengers (ie 14 years and over) Seat belt MUST be worn if available. Seat belt MUST be worn if available. Passenger responsible. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: gatso on February 29, 2012, 02:27:48 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility almost. passenger is classed as an adult and responsible for wearing a seatbelt once they hit 14 so girgs would be fined for a 13 year old not wearing one in his cab but not a 14 yo Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on February 29, 2012, 02:28:49 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility almost. passenger is classed as an adult and responsible for wearing a seatbelt once they hit 14 so girgs would be fined for a 13 year old not wearing one in his cab but not a 14 yo even if i tell their parents to put it on? Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: pokerfan on February 29, 2012, 02:31:20 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility almost. passenger is classed as an adult and responsible for wearing a seatbelt once they hit 14 so girgs would be fined for a 13 year old not wearing one in his cab but not a 14 yo even if i tell their parents to put it on? No belt no ride for kids, innit. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: gatso on February 29, 2012, 02:31:49 PM even if i tell their parents to put it on? of course. assume you also check the height of kids under 14 to see if they should be using a booster seat or not Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on February 29, 2012, 02:33:14 PM even if i tell their parents to put it on? of course. assume you also check the height of kids under 14 to see if they should be using a booster seat or not obv. would be a fool not to really wouldnt i. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: LeKnave on February 29, 2012, 02:51:57 PM Id defo pay if i was man C here.
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Marky147 on February 29, 2012, 03:07:48 PM Yeah C gets his wallet out or gets the fk out!!
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: smashedagain on February 29, 2012, 05:45:52 PM I am 100% sure C has to pay the fine in this country unless they are under 16 and then they are the drivers responsibility almost. passenger is classed as an adult and responsible for wearing a seatbelt once they hit 14 so girgs would be fined for a 13 year old not wearing one in his cab but not a 14 yo Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: paulhouk03 on February 29, 2012, 07:01:30 PM ccr
Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: ManuelsMum on February 29, 2012, 07:10:32 PM You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're: a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers The logic behind this please? Edit The seatbelt exemption for taxi drivers, which was last reviewed in 1993, is in place because of concerns that wearing a belt would make them more vulnerable to assault or robbery. Sheriff Way said it was not certain that Mr McCabe's life would have been saved if he had been wearing a seatbelt, but added he could see no reason why taxi drivers should be exempt from the law. He said: "The risk to the health and safety of both drivers and passengers which these regulations engender is, in my judgment, wholly disproportionate to the perceived risks to drivers of physical abuse and the like from passengers. "In my judgment the exemption fosters an attitude of mind amongst taxi drivers that it is their professional 'right' to be exempt and acceptance of this blinds them to their own health and safety." Sheriff Way said specially designed taxis all now had fully isolated taxi cabs to reduce the risk of assault or robbery and that private hire vehicles could be adapted in such a way. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-11712023 Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Delboy on February 29, 2012, 07:22:47 PM You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're: a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers The logic behind this please? if you are carrying passenger the belt wont fit Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: leethefish on February 29, 2012, 08:10:56 PM shoot the coppers ...no more fine
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/guns/double-barrel-shotgun.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/double.shotgun-emoticon-465.html) Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: taximan007 on March 01, 2012, 03:50:22 AM If i get pulled by the fuzz and all my passengers dont have belts on do i get stumped with the lot? You should probably know the answer to that Girgy :D I'd definately find out if you're not 100% sure! http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_4022064 When you don't need to wear a seat belt You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're: a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services a passenger in a trade vehicle and you're investigating a fault driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers covers me. If you are still driving Private Hire Girgy the law is/was you must wear a seatbelt when you don't have passengers in the car. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: Girgy85 on March 01, 2012, 10:41:59 AM If i get pulled by the fuzz and all my passengers dont have belts on do i get stumped with the lot? You should probably know the answer to that Girgy :D I'd definately find out if you're not 100% sure! http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Roadsafetyadvice/DG_4022064 When you don't need to wear a seat belt You don't need to wear a seat belt if you're: a driver who is reversing, or supervising a learner driver who is reversing in a vehicle being used for police, fire and rescue services a passenger in a trade vehicle and you're investigating a fault driving a goods vehicle on deliveries that is travelling no more than 50 metres between stops a licensed taxi driver who is 'plying for hire' or carrying passengers covers me. If you are still driving Private Hire Girgy the law is/was you must wear a seatbelt when you don't have passengers in the car. I know mate ;) I always wear mine anyway. Title: Re: who paiiiiiiiiiiis the man? Post by: ChristieEllis on March 01, 2012, 05:17:24 PM c) £100 for man C
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