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Title: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: permanentquandary on May 28, 2012, 09:53:58 PM
Important trivia. Now there's an oxymoron.

Referring to a savoury bread a la bacon roll/cob, which is the right word?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 09:57:28 PM
Can't vote mate, I lived in a few places and I've heard those two plus 'roll' equally, although in the east mids its deffo cob. ;kev;


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: TightEnd on May 28, 2012, 09:58:13 PM
Roll South of Watford Gap

Cob in the midlands

Bun if you are Cambridge Alex.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Depends where you are. If you're in Nottingham you'd ask for a cob, in Scotland possibly a bap, in Manchester you might ask for a barm cake. None are wrong, but when you ask for a bread roll you need to pick the right term for the person you're speaking to.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Claw75 on May 28, 2012, 09:59:12 PM
it's a roll.

a bun is sweet.  a cob is what corn comes on.



Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Graham C on May 28, 2012, 10:03:18 PM
A buttie to me would imply bread rather than a roll.  Perhaps bap for bacon but generally Claire has it right imo


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: leethefish on May 28, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
Cob


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 10:04:09 PM
A buttie to me would imply bread rather than a roll.  Perhaps bap for bacon but generally Claire has it right imo


Depends where you are, obv.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Tractor on May 28, 2012, 10:05:24 PM
Roll.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

/thread.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Graham C on May 28, 2012, 10:07:34 PM
A buttie to me would imply bread rather than a roll.  Perhaps bap for bacon but generally Claire has it right imo


Depends where you are, obv.

It's the same wherever I am


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 10:07:59 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: pokerfan on May 28, 2012, 10:08:08 PM
Teacake obv,  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=teacake


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Marky147 on May 28, 2012, 10:09:32 PM
Roll


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Claw75 on May 28, 2012, 10:12:17 PM
anything with the word cake in it is clearly wrong.  I refer you to my earlier 'bun' definition.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:24:08 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 10:25:49 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on May 28, 2012, 10:26:16 PM
Cob.

Lol at breadcake.  Can't be cake, they're sweet not savoury.

Heard cob, barm, batch, roll, any more?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

What theres one in nottingham too?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 10:28:08 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

What theres one in nottingham too?

Beeston in Nottingham is about a mile from deeteedee.  It has a co-op as well.  Although it stocks cobs...


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

What theres one in nottingham too?

Beeston in Nottingham is about a mile from deeteedee.  It has a co-op as well.  Although it stocks cobs...

yea i know.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:29:40 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

Leeds


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 28, 2012, 10:39:20 PM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 10:42:21 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

Leeds

Leeds Castle is in Kent.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Claw75 on May 28, 2012, 10:42:50 PM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.

what?

teacakes are either made by tunnocks and are marshamallowy things covered in chocolate, or they have raisins in and are served toasted.

so much weirdness in this thread.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:44:21 PM
breadcake obv

but bacon buttie is correct term no?

Never heard breadcake, where do u live?

south west beeston near the co-op

What Nottingham?

Leeds

Leeds Castle is in Kent.

Dracula's Castle is in Romania


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:44:52 PM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=breadcake

This is a Breadcake.....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/large/softroll13.jpg)

These are rolls....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/banner-softrolls01.jpg)


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 10:45:17 PM
Nice finger rolls there.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 10:45:31 PM

Do they call them buns there?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:46:38 PM

nope they also call them breakcakes


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:47:09 PM

They could call em a schuffler?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
Ohhhh fuck this is going to get confusing  ;carlocitrone;  :D


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:48:32 PM
my new profile pic is of leeds castle.  ty kin


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:50:49 PM
my new profile pic is of leeds castle.  ty kin

Wheres the castle in Leeds mate?


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 10:51:12 PM
my new profile pic is of leeds castle.  ty kin

I believe mine and already was of a bacon cob  ;D


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 10:52:05 PM
my new profile pic is of leeds castle.  ty kin

Wheres the castle in Leeds mate?


south west beeston, near the co-op


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2012, 10:53:26 PM
I've gone to tesco.com and searched for some of the suggestions

firstly breadcake

We did not find any products to match 'breadcake'

then cob, 2 results, both corn

then bun, plenty of results, almost all cake. a couple of burger buns thrown in though

now roll, we have plenty of bread as well as kitchen, toilet, fig, sausage, chocolate mini, jam and vanilla mini, marrowbone and ice cream

but definitely the one with the most bread product and my winner is roll


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
I've gone to tesco.com and searched for some of the suggestions

firstly breadcake

We did not find any products to match 'breadcake'

then cob, 2 results, both corn

then bun, plenty of results, almost all cake. a couple of burger buns thrown in though

now roll, we have plenty of bread as well as kitchen, toilet, fig, sausage, chocolate mini, jam and vanilla mini, marrowbone and ice cream

but definitely the one with the most bread product and my winner is roll

9 results for bap and that pisses on roll so thats the winner.

But oooop north where all the puddings like me live they are called Breadcakes.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 10:58:29 PM
I love pointless threads like these, always comedy  :)


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2012, 11:02:08 PM
I've gone to tesco.com and searched for some of the suggestions

firstly breadcake

We did not find any products to match 'breadcake'

then cob, 2 results, both corn

then bun, plenty of results, almost all cake. a couple of burger buns thrown in though

now roll, we have plenty of bread as well as kitchen, toilet, fig, sausage, chocolate mini, jam and vanilla mini, marrowbone and ice cream

but definitely the one with the most bread product and my winner is roll

9 results for bap and that pisses on roll so thats the winner.

But oooop north where all the puddings like me live they are called Breadcakes.

didn't look at bap but fair play, the 9 results give it credibility

not sure that it pisses on roll though as that gets 642 results and a lot more than 9 are bread related


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: TightEnd on May 28, 2012, 11:03:41 PM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=breadcake

This is a Breadcake.....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/large/softroll13.jpg)

These are rolls....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/banner-softrolls01.jpg)


top image=bap

bottom image=roll


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 11:03:42 PM
Girgy does love his baps.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Claw75 on May 28, 2012, 11:07:05 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

some pervert is going to type the words pissing on baps into google and be very disappointed when the first return is this thread.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

Just googled 'baps' and these popped up....

(http://www.tab1.de/h4h/cccomp_baps/baps17.jpg)


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: sovietsong on May 28, 2012, 11:08:32 PM
next we will be arguing whether you have scraps with your fish & chips...


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 11:08:44 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

some pervert is going to type the words pissing on baps into google and be very disappointed when the first return is this thread.

I was gonna fyp to 'girgy has baps' but I changed my mind lol.  :D

Sorry Girgy, feel free to slap me when we meet  ;izimbra; rotflmfao


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 11:09:46 PM
next we will be arguing whether you have scraps with your fish & chips...

Curry sauce, ldo.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2012, 11:09:57 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

Just googled 'baps' and these popped up....

(http://www.tab1.de/h4h/cccomp_baps/baps17.jpg)

and that is why google gets more visitors than tesco.com


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Claw75 on May 28, 2012, 11:10:10 PM
next we will be arguing whether you have scraps with your fish & chips...

mushy peas, ldo.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 28, 2012, 11:10:12 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

some pervert is going to type the words pissing on baps into google and be very disappointed when the first return is this thread.

I was gonna fyp to 'girgy has baps' but I changed my mind lol.  :D

Sorry Girgy, feel free to slap me when we meet  ;izimbra; rotflmfao

I dont have baps kid mine are moobs.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 28, 2012, 11:11:11 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

some pervert is going to type the words pissing on baps into google and be very disappointed when the first return is this thread.

I was gonna fyp to 'girgy has baps' but I changed my mind lol.  :D

Sorry Girgy, feel free to slap me when we meet  ;izimbra; rotflmfao

I dont have baps kid mine are moobs. toned pecs after all the hours in the gym.

FYP


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2012, 11:11:33 PM
ok, just read the actual poll. no way is it a bun in kent, what are you talking about? in kent it's a roll


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Woodsey on May 28, 2012, 11:11:47 PM
Girgy does love his baps.

some pervert is going to type the words pissing on baps into google and be very disappointed when the first return is this thread.

I was gonna fyp to 'girgy has baps' but I changed my mind lol.  :D

Sorry Girgy, feel free to slap me when we meet  ;izimbra; rotflmfao

I dont have baps kid mine are moobs.

 :) Ty for humouring me, very kind of you  :)


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: Sheriff Fatman on May 28, 2012, 11:21:59 PM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=breadcake

This is a Breadcake.....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/large/softroll13.jpg)

These are rolls....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/banner-softrolls01.jpg)


top image=bap

bottom image=roll

Top image = teacake

bottom image = bread rolls

Quote
(http://www.tab1.de/h4h/cccomp_baps/baps17.jpg)

This one was just a top image!


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: MahoganyVic on May 29, 2012, 12:34:52 AM
Wtf are you lot on? Its clearly a barmcake!

Leeds folk seem to take this personally as I was once told to leave a pub and then threatened to be shot for calling it a chip barm :(


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: DMorgan on May 29, 2012, 12:58:12 AM
Roll South of Watford Gap

This


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: permanentquandary on May 29, 2012, 03:37:22 AM
Apologies. I posted rather absent mindedly, in a quandary as ever.

Title of thread should be "Cob, ROLL, Other?"

And in Kent they say roll. I should know, that's where I'm from.

Furthering the discussion, I would wager that the word roll is a shortened version of the word "sweetroll". Back in the day, a bygone era, such a word was commonplace, however now it is seldom used. The sweetroll has evolved from being another word for a dessert or tea cake to being savoury, relating to meat and pickle and sandwichlike accoutrements. Such as gherkins.

Bun may also be making the savoury transition, like a thief in the night. Or a cunning ninja snail.

Buttie is right out (a la Monty Python's Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch count of three, FIVE IS RIGHT OUT, the number shall be THREE). This is specifically a sandwich containing chips or bacon. Possibly egg but that's verging on offensive.

Cob seems alien to me. Breadcake also. WTF is a barmcake?!

As for bap, in Kent you can get away with it. But there will be a smirk from someone.


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: DMorgan on May 29, 2012, 04:39:35 AM
Roll


(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/large/softroll13.jpg)


Finger Rolls


(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/banner-softrolls01.jpg)


Baps


(http://www.tab1.de/h4h/cccomp_baps/baps17.jpg)


Buns


(http://edge.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/202553/82407645.png)


Much like Federer vs Nadal, Hendry vs White and Magic Johnson vs Larry Bird; baps and buns will always be trying to out-do each other. Much like the sporting rivalries the real winners are the spectators.


(http://www.fhm.com/imgs/630/500/0/original/280317_fullsizeimage_Rosie_Jones_Bum_Flag.jpgx)


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: pokerfan on May 29, 2012, 08:13:00 AM
DMorgan wins the thread !

@Claw, a teacake with currants in is a currant teacake.


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: smashedagain on May 29, 2012, 08:16:39 AM
Bacon always goes in rolls and my sausage goes in  baps. :)


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: Jon MW on May 29, 2012, 12:11:25 PM
A roll and a cob are different things.

I've had cobs in Nottingham and Derbyshire, and I've had rolls in the South - I'm not a baker so I don't know the difference, but there definitely is one.


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: david3103 on May 29, 2012, 01:05:50 PM
We moved to Nuneaton from Northampton in 1977 - always had rolls in Northampton, but Nuneaton had batches

In fact, they had a lot of corner shops that had signs proclaiming them to be 'Batch Bars' which sold all manner of comestibles as long as they were encased in a batch.

Batch bars were, at the time, unique to Nuneaton and Bedworth. I suspect they are extinct now

ninja edit - they've spread to the Northern end of Coventry

http://www.invitationbook.co.uk/offers/editions/cove/food_to_go/COVE-3-93


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: kinboshi on May 29, 2012, 02:42:01 PM
Bacon always goes in rolls and my sausage goes in  baps. :)

:D


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: david3103 on May 29, 2012, 02:47:32 PM
Bacon always goes in rolls and my sausage goes in  baps. :)

:D

:D

Jase delivers again


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: BulldozerD on May 29, 2012, 03:23:31 PM
+1 to pokerfan, definitely teacake. There are local variations such as scufflers etc.

WTF at cob etc


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: Delboy on May 29, 2012, 10:37:51 PM
Right I have done some research and so I speak the truth.

Teacakes are cakes served with tea..

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Teacake.jpg/220px-Teacake.jpg)

Buns come from Chelsea

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLt7ZUFK4zaTg8JfVYAvMzcP04wreyGHFQ3XO_K7P1gsPqK7F9)

Baps have burgers in them

(https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTR8bEn3CCfVvOXAZ8tAgoENJ8L9-AP6bwax1y6qpERqpoA4AnTxQ)
and sometimes cheese...

Bread rolls are savoury round things made of bread.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Korb_mit_Br%C3%B6tchen_.JPG/220px-Korb_mit_Br%C3%B6tchen_.JPG)

and Cobs; well I think its northern for burnt!

(http://liverpoolrestaurants.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/img_0521.jpg)



Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: Girgy85 on May 30, 2012, 03:01:15 AM
Right I have done some research and so I speak the truth.

Teacakes are cakes served with tea..

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Teacake.jpg/220px-Teacake.jpg)

Buns come from Chelsea

(https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQLt7ZUFK4zaTg8JfVYAvMzcP04wreyGHFQ3XO_K7P1gsPqK7F9)

Baps

(http://www.tab1.de/h4h/cccomp_baps/baps17.jpg)

Bread rolls are savoury round things made of bread.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Korb_mit_Br%C3%B6tchen_.JPG/220px-Korb_mit_Br%C3%B6tchen_.JPG)

and Cobs; well I think its northern for burnt!

(http://liverpoolrestaurants.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/img_0521.jpg)



Fyp


Title: Re: Cob, Bun, Other?
Post by: TRIP5 on May 30, 2012, 04:26:26 AM
A photo would help, but I'm guessing you're talking about a teacake.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=breadcake

This is a Breadcake.....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/large/softroll13.jpg)

These are rolls....

(http://www.countrystyle.co.uk/images/banner-softrolls01.jpg)


top image=bap Teacake

bottom image=roll Finger rolls

FYP

xx


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: MajorMajor on May 30, 2012, 02:00:35 PM
It's a Batch. I'm next door to Watford Gap and we have an "Arnies Batch Bar" I would also deem Bap, Buttie and Roll acceptable but prefer Batch.


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2012, 12:54:58 PM
True story:

I went to stoke for a chess competition when I was about 15 and, between rounds, went for some lunch. I walked into a cafe and asked the nice lady "do you have any baps?"

Apparently they don't call rolls/cobs that there... It was quite awkward!


Title: Re: Cob, Roll, Other?
Post by: permanentquandary on June 04, 2012, 06:55:29 AM
Maybe this will settle it?

(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/60668000/jpg/_60668613_60668377.jpg)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-18298753 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-18298753)