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Super 50 today. Playing 29k @ 400-800 (50). Average is 32k and re-entries are over. 25 minute clock.

Villain just moved to table and this is his first hand. I dont know him and have no information other than that he has 31k. I have been at the table since i late registered in level 4 and from what has played out so far the rest of the table are standard, couple of rocks, couple of fish so in my view i have a slight edge (although not insane).

Villain makes it 2k in the hijack in an unopened pot. He looks to me like he is comfortable raising and 2k is just a standard open. The cut off and button fold. I look down in the SB at  Th Ts.

What's your move?

Shove?
Call and take a flop?
3bet / call?
3bet / fold?

The Bb has 18k and is weak tight so not likely to squeeze light.

3bet / call?

With 36bb v hijack open against a total unknown i think you can 3 bet to around 5300 and get it in here.

I wouldn't be in love with this but I can't see a better way to play it.

EDIT: this is a very tricky spot imo. Not sure I like getting all those discs in there with the tens. Meh. Don't know.

Hope this helps.

@Ricardo. Yes its a tough spot IMO too. Thats why i posted it.


Need some opinions....

Slam dunk 6150/call

Tbh i thought about 3b/ call but thought he may flat a 3bet and didnt fancy the ten balls oop.

Any further thoughts?

Say you flat the open, the BB folds and the flop is

 8s 4d 6c

Whats your move?

i 3bet in this spot and most of the time calling it off unless the spider sense starts to tingle if you make it 6k ish then he is left with a tricky choice. Makes it easier for you in later streets bit ming if he flats and the board comes horrible but we can worry about it when it gets there...


In this spot i am check calling i think. I dont think we can ever check fold i dont like donk bet leading and i think check  raising is out of the question as its unlikely hes going to get it in with worse

mabye 99,77,55,A8,A6,A4

so after this analysis i think check calling is the best option

In a super 50 though, are we really ahead of his PF range to 3 bet / get it in here? I've played these tournaments for years, and people are uncomfortable 4b jamming less than AKs at the very least, and your standard villain will often flat AQ and JJ, and 4 bet shove QQ, KK and AA when they get excited with their premium PP. So essentially you're calling off vs a dominated range.

I think 3bet/fold may be ok in this spot as much as it may induce a slight nausea.

gl 3bet/calling and getting it in good in the super 50

So we feel 3 bet calling is thin given likely 4 bet range of villain so from this we can reasonably 3 bet fold or better to flat? Still leaves us with tricky dilemma on 8 high board oop.

Merits of just shoving pre?

Can't see any merit in shoving here. Unless he'll "put you on AK" and call with 99. But the times this will happen are miniscule.

I'd just 3b/call. Don't mind flatting  too much but I 3b a lot so gotta balance with value hands.

Would a shove fold out  Js Jh or  Qd Qh ? Maybe called by 99 or 88?

3b/call is the best i guess. Thoughts on 3b/fold TT for value against his wide peeling range?

QQ never folding JJ shouldn't be but people do. You can't get calls from 99/88 if you're getting folds from JJ/QQ tho ducy


3b/fold is ok villain dependent. So is flatting and playing OOP imo. ch/call and then re-evaluate mostly on flop.

Wtf?? Why should jj be a fold im high diving te dealer if someone jams 36bbs and I have jacks. For those of you super 50 regs surely you just 3bet every hand if they don't wanna get aks in but I'm sure that can't be tue

dont forget 3b from sb SCREAMS strength. not many do it light...

only thing is i dont think you find out much from him flatting behind. hes never passing anything that beats you
plus pretty much any flop is going to bad...

in cash 3b get it in...

in this spot i prefer the flat and evaluate the flop.

your hand is disguised. 3bet turns most of your range very face up imo.

against me keep going youll turn a ten... im famous for it...

he's saying would 3b jamming 36bb get JJ to fold. Nowhere has he said we have jacks

As I said you've gotta widen your 3b range and add the suited hands to balance your range imo. People say you don't need to balance but it has such an immediate effect, especially when people are 1-tabling iyam

I think this spot has valid reasons for playing several ways and all options have merit.

Obv we are not folding so interested in thought processes and plans for the streets depending particularly on a low rainbow board.

Fwiw I was tired and went for the most aggressive option and shoved as i wanted to play for double average stack or get him to fold out something that could out flop me easily. On reflection I should have 3 bet called any 4 bet for value but had I had my game head on I would have 3 bet folded as I cannot be good here in a super 50 against a random. Best scenario is AK.

The board came 8 high which left me wondering how the flop would have played out given my hand against his perceived range. As it happens I think we both still get it in as he dwell called the shove with JJ

Doh pls don't post results.

3b/fold? This doesn't sound like the same person that happily 5b/calls 99 sb vs hijack for 120bb with no history.

Easy 3b/call vs a lot of people and as a standard in most tournaments, don't what the state of live £50 freezeouts is at the moment but it could potentially be pretty bad getting in TT here when we can call profitably. Having said that I would probably always 3b/call in game and then be sad after I snapped his 4b shove and he looks unhappy and says "you must have it then" and turns over JJ