Super 50 spot.

[Junior Senior]

Super 50 today. Playing 29k @ 400-800 (50). Average is 32k and re-entries are over. 25 minute clock.

Villain just moved to table and this is his first hand. I dont know him and have no information other than that he has 31k. I have been at the table since i late registered in level 4 and from what has played out so far the rest of the table are standard, couple of rocks, couple of fish so in my view i have a slight edge (although not insane).

Villain makes it 2k in the hijack in an unopened pot. He looks to me like he is comfortable raising and 2k is just a standard open. The cut off and button fold. I look down in the SB at  .

What's your move?

Shove?
Call and take a flop?
3bet / call?
3bet / fold?

The Bb has 18k and is weak tight so not likely to squeeze light.

[jezza777]

3bet / call?

[Ricardov83]

With 36bb v hijack open against a total unknown i think you can 3 bet to around 5300 and get it in here.

I wouldn't be in love with this but I can't see a better way to play it.

EDIT: this is a very tricky spot imo. Not sure I like getting all those discs in there with the tens. Meh. Don't know.

Hope this helps.

[Junior Senior]

@Ricardo. Yes its a tough spot IMO too. Thats why i posted it.


Need some opinions....

[pleno1]

Slam dunk 6150/call

[Junior Senior]

Tbh i thought about 3b/ call but thought he may flat a 3bet and didnt fancy the ten balls oop.

[Junior Senior]

Any further thoughts?

Say you flat the open, the BB folds and the flop is

 

Whats your move?

[BorntoBubble]

i 3bet in this spot and most of the time calling it off unless the spider sense starts to tingle if you make it 6k ish then he is left with a tricky choice. Makes it easier for you in later streets bit ming if he flats and the board comes horrible but we can worry about it when it gets there...

Any further thoughts?

Say you flat the open, the BB folds and the flop is

 

Whats your move?

In this spot i am check calling i think. I dont think we can ever check fold i dont like donk bet leading and i think check  raising is out of the question as its unlikely hes going to get it in with worse

mabye 99,77,55,A8,A6,A4

so after this analysis i think check calling is the best option

[corkeye]

In a super 50 though, are we really ahead of his PF range to 3 bet / get it in here? I've played these tournaments for years, and people are uncomfortable 4b jamming less than AKs at the very least, and your standard villain will often flat AQ and JJ, and 4 bet shove QQ, KK and AA when they get excited with their premium PP. So essentially you're calling off vs a dominated range.

I think 3bet/fold may be ok in this spot as much as it may induce a slight nausea.

[TL900]

gl 3bet/calling and getting it in good in the super 50

[Junior Senior]

In a super 50 though, are we really ahead of his PF range to 3 bet / get it in here? I've played these tournaments for years, and people are uncomfortable 4b jamming less than AKs at the very least, and your standard villain will often flat AQ and JJ, and 4 bet shove QQ, KK and AA when they get excited with their premium PP. So essentially you're calling off vs a dominated range.

I think 3bet/fold may be ok in this spot as much as it may induce a slight nausea.

So we feel 3 bet calling is thin given likely 4 bet range of villain so from this we can reasonably 3 bet fold or better to flat? Still leaves us with tricky dilemma on 8 high board oop.

Merits of just shoving pre?

[dakky]

In a super 50 though, are we really ahead of his PF range to 3 bet / get it in here? I've played these tournaments for years, and people are uncomfortable 4b jamming less than AKs at the very least, and your standard villain will often flat AQ and JJ, and 4 bet shove QQ, KK and AA when they get excited with their premium PP. So essentially you're calling off vs a dominated range.

I think 3bet/fold may be ok in this spot as much as it may induce a slight nausea.

So we feel 3 bet calling is thin given likely 4 bet range of villain so from this we can reasonably 3 bet fold or better to flat? Still leaves us with tricky dilemma on 8 high board oop.

Merits of just shoving pre?

Can't see any merit in shoving here. Unless he'll "put you on AK" and call with 99. But the times this will happen are miniscule.

I'd just 3b/call. Don't mind flatting  too much but I 3b a lot so gotta balance with value hands.

[Junior Senior]

Would a shove fold out  or  ? Maybe called by 99 or 88?

[muckthenuts]

3b/call is the best i guess. Thoughts on 3b/fold TT for value against his wide peeling range?

[dakky]

Would a shove fold out  or  ? Maybe called by 99 or 88?

QQ never folding JJ shouldn't be but people do. You can't get calls from 99/88 if you're getting folds from JJ/QQ tho ducy

3b/call is the best i guess. Thoughts on 3b/fold TT for value against his wide peeling range?

3b/fold is ok villain dependent. So is flatting and playing OOP imo. ch/call and then re-evaluate mostly on flop.