Title: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 09:55:57 PM Hope this is ok, as the last thread got a bit jumbled, and I was offered a deal there, that's no longer in place, although I did get a decent review from James there. This is slightly different than the last package added there, as it includes a heavy weekend schedule, which offers a few good chances of a huge return, I feel i'm due (who doesn't)..
I play similar events on a regular basis. Stars Screen name: sonicmatter My OPR http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/sonicmatter/poker/results/6AEDE3D58A5A4C758823755CCACAB8AE.html?t=2&scp=600 (http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/sonicmatter/poker/results/6AEDE3D58A5A4C758823755CCACAB8AE.html?t=2&scp=600) Have other references, and have completed stakes in the past. The package will consist of the following, I may change it slightly if deep in a few a concentrate on those, and will play sats, which has always been +ev for me in the past. Package is a total of $600 Selling 5% = $30 10% = $60 25% = $150 Shows buy in and expected cost with rebuys and add ons. No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 8.8 8.8 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo OLPL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 11 11 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 11 11 No Limit Hold'em HENL 11 11 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 8.8 8.8 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 11 11 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 1.1 1.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.22+ 10.32 No Limit Hold'em HENL 8.8 8.8 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2.2 2.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 8.8 8.8 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo OLPL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 1.1 1.1 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 01.10+ 5.1 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 5.5 5.5 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 11 11 No Limit Hold'em HENL 02.20+ 10.2 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 8.8 8.8 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 4.4 4.4 No Limit Hold'em HENL 3.3 3.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 03.30+ 15.3 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL 03.30+ 15.3 No Limit Hold'em HENL 7 7 600.22 All buyins returned before 50/50 profit split. Will play from Thursday this week if sold out. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2012, 10:01:17 PM Hi,
I thought you were offering 60/40 split in the last thread? Will take the lot if that's still on. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on July 31, 2012, 10:13:30 PM Hi Matt if you don't take up Alex's offer.....I'll take 25% Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 10:17:32 PM Was about to offer a 55/45 in your favour, would you take 75% Alex and Ripple the 25% at the same % split??
Happy to agree to that, thanks for the offers. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: craigbetts on July 31, 2012, 10:20:01 PM Was about to offer a 55/45 in your favour, would you take 75% Alex and Ripple the 25% at the same % split?? Happy to agree to that, thanks for the offers. It's like dragons den in here! Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2012, 10:23:49 PM Wait I'm not sure I understand the deal.
I'm paying 100% of the buyin for 50% of the profits? Or in your latest offer 55? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2012, 10:30:04 PM I'm glad I double checked. This is like selling at 2.0.
I think you mean / should sell EITHER 1) I'm playing $600 worth of tournaments, and selling 60% at 1.0. 10% = $60. Then you put up 40% of the buyins yourself. OR 2) The sort of deal I think you mean, where investors offer up the entire buyins, in return for usually at least 70% of the profits. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 10:33:53 PM Wait I'm not sure I understand the deal. I'm paying 100% of the buyin for 50% of the profits? Or in your latest offer 55? I'm going with what I'm advised, was selling for 50/50, that didn't show much interest, or maybe it was in the wrong place. Spoke to some people on PM who said stick to 50/50, among other things. So came up with the package, I want to be fair, so am open to offers, negotiations. I was going to offer the 60/40 with 50/50 on top 5 finishes, as someone else suggested that and it looked fair. I'm new to offering stakes, doing it as I have time on my hands but money tied up elsewhere, plus I want coaching, although am working hard on my game daily, and have been told I've decent enough results this year over a fair sample to be a decent investment. I'm open to offers/advice. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 10:35:14 PM I'm glad I double checked. This is like selling at 2.0. I think you mean / should sell EITHER 1) I'm playing $600 worth of tournaments, and selling 60% at 1.0. 10% = $60. Then you put up 40% of the buyins yourself. OR 2) The sort of deal I think you mean, where investors offer up the entire buyins, in return for usually at least 70% of the profits. If that's standard then I'm ok with it, was only going on advice from others. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: toddswain on July 31, 2012, 10:38:01 PM When there's no makeup standard is 70/30 in backers favour + stakeback, sometimes 75/25+ stakeback. 50/50 is usually only for long term deals with makeup.
Gl with this Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Longy on July 31, 2012, 10:41:56 PM He is selling a package of small/micro tournaments so this isn't the same as selling one bigger buyin tournament at 1.xx. So a higher markup is somewhat justified in comparison.
What that price is, is ofc subject to debate. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2012, 10:59:04 PM With all due respect you have little posts on the forum and not a huge amount of vouches an you're not willing to put a penny up yourself.
Play a day package for 50 dorra or something, buy 50 pc yoursel and sell the rest at 1.2, slowly you will get respect and credibility on the forum ad potentially get taking on a a long term horse. At the moment you are selling 50% at 2.0 and just covering it up as 50/50 if I'm not mistaken. We are a big and united community here I hope people don't just punt because it's the in thing to do, there is a post limit for a reason and really think you shoul build up yor rep before trying to shift such packages here. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 11:16:53 PM With all due respect you have little posts on the forum and not a huge amount of vouches an you're not willing to put a penny up yourself. Play a day package for 50 dorra or something, buy 50 pc yoursel and sell the rest at 1.2, slowly you will get respect and credibility on the forum ad potentially get taking on a a long term horse. At the moment you are selling 50% at 2.0 and just covering it up as 50/50 if I'm not mistaken. We are a big and united community here I hope people don't just punt because it's the in thing to do, there is a post limit for a reason and really think you shoul build up yor rep before trying to shift such packages here. I'm going to be putting in huge hours on this package, isn't it fair to ask for 60/40 on 100% at these stakes. I have reasons for not wanting to invest my own funds but will buy 25% if everyone thinks that's right. I appreciate all constructive criticism, and what you say is fair. I've not been active that much on here in the past, and don't have any history, have lurked since 2006. I'm really not trying to cover anything up and have tried to make it clear in all post I was unsure the right price/% to offer, I've seen similar packages for the same stakes, and sold action for the MM's on 2plus2 at 50/50 before I had enough posts to sell on here. I have met many people who post on here when I was dealing the circuit in the UK and Ireland at places like DTD, UKIPT's, IPO, Ladbrokes and many more, knowing who the people are who are staking me is important, if that includes tournament history reviews/coaching great. It's one of the reasons I'd prefer to sell on here. I've got decent results, am not really looking to grind $1 tournaments, and with all due respect think with recent results I'm a decent investment, others have said that. I respect why you said it, but hope you'll agree if you look at my results/volume i've put in a fair grind already. So as the offers I've had are not going to be discussed til September I decided to sell these packages, just unsure as is clear a few are on what a fair price is. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: millidonk on July 31, 2012, 11:20:37 PM When there's no makeup standard is 70/30 in backers favour + stakeback, sometimes 75/25+ stakeback. 50/50 is usually only for long term deals with makeup. Gl with this Yea, this. 50/50 (2.0) on a one off punt without putting anything up yourself is pretty ridic tbh. You said you were advised to put this up? If you are happy to put up 25% of yourself then just sell 75% of your action, if you believe you are decent value then put a markup which reflects this. GL whatever you choose. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on July 31, 2012, 11:20:45 PM I was out with James last night and asked him about you, hence my interest here. I think you've misunderstood quite how it works, understandly so, it's very confusing when you first start out, with people branding about all sorts of terms, I certainly don't think this falls in the "taking the piss" category (although on paper, it actually is lol), so I disagree with pleno that you are "covering it up as 50/50".
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 11:32:31 PM I was out with James last night and asked him about you, hence my interest here. I think you've misunderstood quite how it works, understandly so, it's very confusing when you first start out, with people branding about all sorts of terms, I certainly don't think this falls in the "taking the piss" category (although on paper, it actually is lol), so I disagree with pleno that you are "covering it up as 50/50". Thanks. I'm serious in that I have spare time ( I help run an events company in Barcelona, it's nearly 2 years old, and we've booked the rest of the summer season here, artists confirmed, all logistics in place), all I need to do is be at the venues on the day to set up and the evening to help host, and there's only 3 more this summer. So this has left me with the time to spend working on my game, but not the finance. More than I really want to share on a forum, but as i'm selling myself so to speak, it seems fair. Still unsure what is a fair price, I know it varies for all, so if standard is somewhere between 75/25 to 60/40 or even 50/50 what would be a fair price for this package? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2012, 11:33:24 PM Why ever say 50/50, 70/30 markup is the recognised term. It's 50% at 2.0'right?
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2012, 11:34:18 PM How do you play on stars from Spain?????
Also guess markup is slightly diff because u offer stale back. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on July 31, 2012, 11:38:49 PM How do you play on stars from Spain????? Also guess markup is slightly diff because u offer stale back. I really haven't studied mark up, my bad there. I just looked at similar packages from players with similar ROI's and buy ins/a staking deal I just left (in profit). I'm back in the UK a lot, the business is in Barcelona, I'm in Manchester when i'm back. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Longy on July 31, 2012, 11:51:00 PM I hate to do this, but I feel I have to say something as if someone were to invest in you and stars found out it maybe gg money.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=33900371&postcount=553 Clearly stated at the bottom of the post that playing on pokerstars.com from Spain is clearly not allowed. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 12:00:12 AM I hate to do this, but I feel I have to say something as if someone were to invest in you and stars found out it maybe gg money. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=33900371&postcount=553 Clearly stated at the bottom of the post that playing on pokerstars.com from Spain is clearly not allowed. I know of many people playing via VPN's who have not had a problem. I wouldn't want to admit to having done it on a public forum, just saying I know many who have never had a issue, if it happened. As I said I'm back in the UK all the time. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Longy on August 01, 2012, 12:07:46 AM I hate to do this, but I feel I have to say something as if someone were to invest in you and stars found out it maybe gg money. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=33900371&postcount=553 Clearly stated at the bottom of the post that playing on pokerstars.com from Spain is clearly not allowed. I know of many people playing via VPN's who have not had a problem. I wouldn't want to admit to having done it on a public forum, just saying I know many who have never had a issue, if it happened. As I said I'm back in the UK all the time. I am not really interested in accusing you of anything, as long as it your own money do whatever you feel is best. In this spot though you are asking others to invest their money and it is important they know the associated risks with playing on .com in Spain. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on August 01, 2012, 12:17:13 AM I'm going to be putting in huge hours on this package, isn't it fair to ask for 60/40 on 100% at these stakes. I have reasons for not wanting to invest my own funds but will buy 25% if everyone thinks that's right. I appreciate all constructive criticism, and what you say is fair. I've not been active that much on here in the past, and don't have any history, have lurked since 2006. I'm really not trying to cover anything up and have tried to make it clear in all post I was unsure the right price/% to offer, I've seen similar packages for the same stakes, and sold action for the MM's on 2plus2 before I had enough posts to sell on here. I have met many people who post on here when I was dealing the circuit in the UK and Ireland at places like DTD, UKIPT's, IPO, Ladbrokes and many more, knowing who the people are who are staking me is important, if that includes tournament history reviews/coaching great. I've got decent results, am not really looking to grind $1 tournaments, and with all due respect think with recent results I'm a decent investment, others have said that. I respect why you said it, but hope you'll agree if you look at my results/volume i've put in a fair grind already. Asking for 60/40 is not fair no. I'll explain why. Chris Moorman is probably the most successful online tournament player in the world. I've looked him up on Sharkscope and on Stars he has an 19% ROI over 11,000 tournaments with an average buyin of £122 (dunno why the new sharkscope does it in £) You're playing tournaments with an average buyin of about £2 I guess so your ROI will probably be higher than Chris' funnily enough. Let's say your ROI in these comps is 40%. In fact, I'll look you up and see what it is. 32% over 3500 games. Very nice. OK so what this means is that if you were selling a package and you wanted your investors to put up 100% of the buyins for 60% of the profits, I'm not actually sure how to work out what markup that equates to lol, I know without stakeback it's 100/60 = 1.666 but you're offering stakeback first so that improves it a bit. I imagine it's around 1.5 For the deal to be BREAK EVEN for investors, with a 32% ROI you need to sell at 1.32, so you selling at 1.5ish is a very bad deal for them. You should either sell a package at 1.1 or 1.2 for say 70% of the buyins, then put in a little bit yourself or ask for 100% of the buyin, at 75/25 imo. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 12:34:12 AM I'm going to be putting in huge hours on this package, isn't it fair to ask for 60/40 on 100% at these stakes. I have reasons for not wanting to invest my own funds but will buy 25% if everyone thinks that's right. I appreciate all constructive criticism, and what you say is fair. I've not been active that much on here in the past, and don't have any history, have lurked since 2006. I'm really not trying to cover anything up and have tried to make it clear in all post I was unsure the right price/% to offer, I've seen similar packages for the same stakes, and sold action for the MM's on 2plus2 before I had enough posts to sell on here. I have met many people who post on here when I was dealing the circuit in the UK and Ireland at places like DTD, UKIPT's, IPO, Ladbrokes and many more, knowing who the people are who are staking me is important, if that includes tournament history reviews/coaching great. I've got decent results, am not really looking to grind $1 tournaments, and with all due respect think with recent results I'm a decent investment, others have said that. I respect why you said it, but hope you'll agree if you look at my results/volume i've put in a fair grind already. Asking for 60/40 is not fair no. I'll explain why. Chris Moorman is probably the most successful online tournament player in the world. I've looked him up on Sharkscope and on Stars he has an 19% ROI over 11,000 tournaments with an average buyin of £122 (dunno why the new sharkscope does it in £) You're playing tournaments with an average buyin of about £2 I guess so your ROI will probably be higher than Chris' funnily enough. Let's say your ROI in these comps is 40%. In fact, I'll look you up and see what it is. 32% over 3500 games. Very nice. OK so what this means is that if you were selling a package and you wanted your investors to put up 100% of the buyins for 60% of the profits, I'm not actually sure how to work out what markup that equates to lol, I know without stakeback it's 100/60 = 1.666 but you're offering stakeback first so that improves it a bit. I imagine it's around 1.5 For the deal to be BREAK EVEN for investors, with a 32% ROI you need to sell at 1.32, so you selling at 1.5ish is a very bad deal for them. You should either sell a package at 1.1 or 1.2 for say 70% of the buyins, then put in a little bit yourself or ask for 100% of the buyin, at 75/25 imo. Thanks for that post Alex, in fact all posts replies here have been useful, this one really makes some sense of the whole mark up, I think. So for this package, ideally I don't want to use my own funds, along with the time factor, i'm currently trying to rent half a flat in Barcelona that I don't use but will be paying for for the next two months if it remains empty. So taking that my ROI this year is 155%, last 120 days is 55%, these figures are off OPR, so willing to look at again if sharkscope is different. Would 1.3 be a fair price for the whole package, this is the same as 70/30 isn't it, or am I worth more/less on current form? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on August 01, 2012, 12:38:44 AM If you're ROI was anything like 155% then yes, I'd do a 50/50 deal! However your TRUE ROI will be much closer to 30 or 40%, making a 70/30 deal pretty close to breakeven, so as someone who backs almost entirely to make money, I wouldn't risk it in a breakeven punt which may be slightly +EV, but may also be -EV at that price.
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 12:54:28 AM If you're ROI was anything like 155% then yes, I'd do a 50/50 deal! However your TRUE ROI will be much closer to 30 or 40%, making a 70/30 deal pretty close to breakeven, so as someone who backs almost entirely to make money, I wouldn't risk it in a breakeven punt which may be slightly +EV, but may also be -EV at that price. Remember what I said about Moorman, best online player in the world perhaps - 19% ROI. I'm sure he's gone through 6month periods with ROIs in the hundreds of %, those sample sizes mean very little. I hear you Alex, the figure on OPR for this year is 151%, most of my volume has been played this year too. But I get what you say about true ROI, that's at 43% according to OPR. I don't understand how you get to break even being 70/30, would that not mean my ROI is 30%? Thanks for all the posts clearing this up, as you say Alex you're in this entirely to make money, there's no other reason I play poker online, I see this as a fair shot, understand the risk financially is with the backer, and as I've said I've got the time available, saying that I'm not looking to score big, I know I have an edge in these games, have actually been running under EV, and feel confident enough to put my self on the line here. I see this as a good investment, i've just finished a 4 month stake in profit as it was holding me back. I want to continue to build my reputation through returning profits, can't guarantee it will happen, no one can, but can guarantee that i'll be doing everything I can to return as much profit as I can. Whoever mentioned Dragons Den before was spot on, although my ambitions here are a little less than JJ's, anyone still in? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: GreekStein on August 01, 2012, 01:13:33 AM stars software is very good at detecting VPN usage.
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 01:42:04 AM stars software is very good at detecting VPN usage. Is it really that good, that's not a challenge to stars, clearly I wouldn't want to risk having my account closed. Although I have seen first hand players in countries with their own stars site, playing on the .com site with no issue then or in the future. Maybe I'll look to set up a stars.es account when I'm there, with Rafa promoting it, the games have got to be attracting recreational players. Of course if anything I did during a package meant the account was locked then i'd stand for all funds lost including any profit. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: millidonk on August 01, 2012, 08:10:29 AM Just so you know, In an ideal world your markup would only be a reflection of your true roi but unfortunately real life has taught us that we must take other things into account, something such as the possibility of being grimmed.. obv not for a second saying this would happen or this is your intention but in your case from an outsiders pov I would think: I haven't met this guy in person, he spends a lot of time out of the UK, Knows first hand of people using VPNs, been quite vague on who he actually is, has been a member on the forum since 2006 but has racked up >300 posts in 3 weeks and openly admitted this was just to get staking etc. Coupled with ideally not wanting to put any money up yourself etc. your best bet would be to do a 75/25 or 70/30 after stake back. I know it feels like a lot for the hours you are giving away, but you have already said you have nothing to do and the backers will be taking 100% of the financial risk.
Continuing the dragonsden theme I will take 5% at a one off 75/25 In backers favour after stake back deal. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2012, 09:21:31 AM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will cnfoscate all the money.
Gud lack Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Eso Kral on August 01, 2012, 09:58:05 AM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will cnfoscate all the money. Gud lack http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9012/pleno.jpg[/img]](http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9012/pleno.jpg) (http://[IMG) = Pleno Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: anthonyl on August 01, 2012, 09:58:11 AM If they do 50/50s on 2+2, why don't you sell on there then?
Also, why would an investor be happy with 60/40 split, then 50/50 split for top 5 finish where the money is?! Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: skolsuper on August 01, 2012, 10:18:54 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live.
@milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included. Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 10:32:17 AM Just so you know, In an ideal world your markup would only be a reflection of your true roi but unfortunately real life has taught us that we must take other things into account, something such as the possibility of being grimmed.. obv not for a second saying this would happen or this is your intention but in your case from an outsiders pov I would think: I haven't met this guy in person, he spends a lot of time out of the UK, Knows first hand of people using VPNs, been quite vague on who he actually is, has been a member on the forum since 2006 but has racked up >300 posts in 3 weeks and openly admitted this was just to get staking etc. Coupled with ideally not wanting to put any money up yourself etc. your best bet would be to do a 75/25 or 70/30 after stake back. I know it feels like a lot for the hours you are giving away, but you have already said you have nothing to do and the backers will be taking 100% of the financial risk. Continuing the dragonsden theme I will take 5% at a one off 75/25 In backers favour after stake back deal. Hi, I didn't realise I was being vague, happy to connect any potential backers to my facebook. Some players on here do know who I am, but you're right I did make most of my 300 posts with the intention but no solely to look for a stake. I'm no expert, but am learning quickly about backing, and my reasons for looking now are genuine, and I do believe, along with others that I'm a good investment. Will make a revised offer when I've replied to the other new posts. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: millidonk on August 01, 2012, 10:34:47 AM Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong?
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 01, 2012, 10:35:33 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live. @milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included. Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board. I'm still happy to take 25% at 60/40. I know Matt from his dealing days and I owe him a favour or two :) Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 10:40:10 AM If they do 50/50s on 2+2, why don't you sell on there then? Also, why would an investor be happy with 60/40 split, then 50/50 split for top 5 finish where the money is?! I did. had a staking deal for 4 months, was not happy with the coaching or time it took to reload, so on advice left. I also sold a Micro Million package there, but had issues with being sent money from paypal, and another 2plus2 backer confirming, but never sending the funds, leaving me shot. Pokerfan invested in that and i showed a profit again, although it was a very small profit. People on blonde are more real if that makes sense, most people I know who they are, or someone who knows them, i respect the advice I've been given here, and hopefully I can show I've taken that on board. As for the 60/40 with 50/50 top 5 finishes, I'm only going from other packages/advice from other players as to what I am worth, and ways to give a fair return to all should I hit a top5 finish. So I'd prefer not to sell on 2plus2, already had a bad experience, and dealing with USA/Canada has so far just been a extra hassle with money transfers and the time difference. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: skolsuper on August 01, 2012, 10:43:57 AM Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong? My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: cambridgealex on August 01, 2012, 10:46:04 AM Didn't know it was with makeup, it looked like just a package of tournaments
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 10:56:51 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live. @milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included. Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board. Thanks again, Ripple has asked for 25% and as I know his game from some of the early Superstack/888 tournaments I would like to give him first refusal on 25%, and as Alex's involvement in this thread has taught me a lot about staking, and been constructive, would like to offer some if he wants it. I will also give any backers here first refusal on future packages, and if I make a decent profit here will continue to play on the same deal until end of Sept/Oct when I'm currently discussing starting a new long term deal. So as it stands I accept this offer, and will start on Thursday, If Alex and Ripple can let me know before tomorrow that would be ideal, i'll PM you before then. I will add the main reasons to ask for a stake are i want to continue to build my reputation, and I want people with a vested interest to share the best info with me, whether that be through straight up coaching, or occasional Tournaments reviews that give me areas to work on, I 'll be happy just to know I'm getting the best info to improve my game. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 11:04:00 AM Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong? My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x I'm happy to go with what's best/fairest, when i asked for 50/50, I see I was clearly misguided in my reasons for wanting that. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: skolsuper on August 01, 2012, 11:09:18 AM Yeah happy to give up 25 for ripple and another 25 to whoever wants it
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: pleno1 on August 01, 2012, 11:09:29 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, its a 4 day package, monda/guy could/should;d grind it out if in MU, here the losses will be lost its totally different right? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 11:19:04 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, and most confusingly it's the same deal you were on for live tournaments with me and Keith. Granted there's some extra risk here seeing as it ends after 4 days, but he'll probably play more tournaments in those 4 days than you could manage in a whole year playing live. @milligan, I don't think he's been vague about who he is, although the information isn't all in this thread his 1st thread had everything included. Since this thread is just $400 fire and forget and doesn't include any coaching, I'll take it all at 60/40, although since you're trying to build relationships I'll share it with anyone that wants to come on board. I'm still happy to take 25% at 60/40. I know Matt from his dealing days and I owe him a favour or two :) Thanks Nick, 25% booked at 60/40, with James taking the rest if that's still on the table with the stakeback/make up?. As James said I'm happy to involve others, if that gets me some tournament reviews/coaching. For clarity, so far I have the following reserved. 25% ripple 50% skolsuper 25% available I'm out most of the day, picking up my fixed laptop, so will reply to any further posts post here later. Thanks again for every ones input, It's been a good learning experience. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: MC on August 01, 2012, 11:20:54 AM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will confiscate all the money. This. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 11:23:02 AM Think you've been way too harsh here Alex, 50/50 with makeup is the same deal monda sold, Guy sold, its a 4 day package, monda/guy could/should;d grind it out if in MU, here the losses will be lost its totally different right? My offer was based on my previous deal that included Make Up, and will stick with original backers if they want me to play out of the make up if there is any, or split profits and repeat a similar package which they will have first refusal on buying. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 11:28:58 AM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will confiscate all the money. This. I'm back in the UK Wed night, so this will no be an issue. Would like to add that if any actions cause my account to be shut down and funds confiscated I will repay any losses. Made me think if this has ever happened in staking deals, and thinking about it, I'm kinda surprised it's not addressed in agreements. I'll ask that question, in the issues arising from staking thread, could I also ask if we can discuss VPN usage over there. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: millidonk on August 01, 2012, 11:30:23 AM Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong? My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x Yep your reasoning is sound, although the sheer fact that If the horse completely bricks we do not receive a penny back is why i dont personally consider it the same as makeup. The less commitment is a good point tho. GL anyways, Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 05:02:39 PM Keys, fair enough if he has given all the info in another thread but there isn't much present in this one, Plus didn't see any links to the other? Surely mentioning makeup is redundant as this isnt the case here? Unless we are classing after stake back as the same as makeup which I personally don't. Final point thought this package was $600 not $400? On my phone so might be reading it wrong? My bad, I read it wrong it is $600. Stakeback is the same as makeup just not persistent, it gets written off at the end of the stake, which does make it riskier I suppose but then also the stake ending means it's less of a commitment. I think it's a decent middle ground between a long term makeup deal and selling without makeup at 1.x Yep your reasoning is sound, although the sheer fact that If the horse completely bricks we do not receive a penny back is why i dont personally consider it the same as makeup. The less commitment is a good point tho. GL anyways, I do understand the difference now, and muddled the two, apologies for any confusion, hope the subject is clearer with other as it is with me now. I've sold these packages before, and played in a 50/50 deal with make up, I've not bricked and have shown profits in the majority of my previous stakes, but clearly didn't understand exactly what i was doing. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 05:10:47 PM Due to be back in Manchester for just after 1pm tomorrow, and now plan to play Thursday night, Saturday and Sunday all day, and Monday for the four days. My sisters organised a little get together for Friday night, so would like to change the original Friday to the Monday. The schedule is the same from what I can see, the weekend will stay the same.
Currently I believe I've got the following offer for 60/40 deal in the stakers favour. 25% Ripple 50% Skolsuper Alex or anyone else who has shown an interest can you let me know if that's of any interest. So 25% available at: 1% - $6 5% - $30 10% - $60 Will be Barcelona leaving 9am tomorrow to fly back on the mid day flight to Manchester, so hoping to close this off before I leave. Thanks. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 01, 2012, 06:27:21 PM Am happy to take the other 25% if still available
Tbh I've watched you gradually build your 300+ posts, however I believe you have been totally honest about this and more importantly to me you made the 300+ with some decent posts, not the usual - gg wp lol that we often see. Some of your postage regards your time as a dealer/TDA I thought were a really good insight for the unknowing like myself. Just as importantly your replies here and on other threads show a willingness to take on comments/critiscm and adjust which I like. I don't know James apart from forum/updates but any endorsement from Nick is good in my book. Also railing with you and Steve during the MM series was fun Good luck Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: AlexMartin on August 01, 2012, 06:36:37 PM With all due respect you have little posts on the forum and not a huge amount of vouches an you're not willing to put a penny up yourself. Play a day package for 50 dorra or something, buy 50 pc yoursel and sell the rest at 1.2, slowly you will get respect and credibility on the forum ad potentially get taking on a a long term horse. At the moment you are selling 50% at 2.0 and just covering it up as 50/50 if I'm not mistaken. We are a big and united community here I hope people don't just punt because it's the in thing to do, there is a post limit for a reason and really think you shoul build up yor rep before trying to shift such packages here. hahahahahahahaha, wpwp. obv level is obv. gl op, seems ok/fine to get more than 70 with this monster schedule. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 06:49:03 PM Am happy to take the other 25% if still available Tbh I've watched you gradually build your 300+ posts, however I believe you have been totally honest about this and more importantly to me you made the 300+ with some decent posts, not the usual - gg wp lol that we often see. Some of your postage regards your time as a dealer/TDA I thought were a really good insight for the unknowing like myself. Just as importantly your replies here and on other threads show a willingness to take on comments/critiscm and adjust which I like. I don't know James apart from forum/updates but any endorsement from Nick is good in my book. Also railing with you and Steve during the MM series was fun Good luck Geo 25% booked, and thanks for the words of support. 25% Ripple 50% Skolsuper 25% Geo the Sarge. Screenname is: sonicmatter. I would prefer it sent on stars if possible, if not have neteller, and paypal (prefer not to use paypal though if at all possible). Just to confirm everyone saw I am now playing Thursday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. Let me know how/when you want updating, also willing to post any interesting developments/updates here. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 01, 2012, 06:55:14 PM $150 sent on stars
Happy just to know timings for railing purposes as I'll be playing some of these myself Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 01, 2012, 07:21:12 PM Your transfer has been rejected as we have determined that the funds you are
transferring originate from recent deposits. Please remember that PokerStars cannot be used as a money transferring service and please also bear in mind that you should only deposit funds when you have the intention to use them at tables. If you wish to stake other players without playing at the tables yourself, then we recommend that you send funds to these players using a money transfer service outside of PokerStars. ooops, wasn't aware of this. seen monies were still in my stars account and resent prior to receiving the above email Can you pm bank details and will send that way if my second attempt fails also Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 01, 2012, 07:31:58 PM 2nd attempt failed, can you pm me bank details please
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 01, 2012, 09:41:55 PM 2nd attempt failed, can you pm me bank details please Geo PM sent Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 01, 2012, 10:01:54 PM PM sent
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 02, 2012, 06:38:15 AM Sent by paypal
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 02, 2012, 08:57:08 AM Sent by paypal Geo Received. Seems transfers are temp blocked as they think I've played from the USA. Not sure why you got that message Geo, never seen that before, as for the account lock on the same day we're discussing playing on VPN's. Guess stars do search the forums, good to know they are so proactive I reckon. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: tikay on August 02, 2012, 09:32:00 AM Good morning. 'Stars do have a representative who is a member of blonde, & is on the site most days, as far as I am aware. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: The Lad on August 02, 2012, 10:34:27 AM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will confiscate all the money. This. True story. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 02, 2012, 02:37:12 PM If you play through a VPN they will find you and they will shut you down and when they do that they will confiscate all the money. This. True story. Spoken to stars, they somehow thought I'd played from the USA. I explained a few things about my locations, and that i've not been to the USA since 2007, and the account is fine. Ripple 25% $150 stars transfer received. Geo 25% £100 paypal received. skolsuper 50% reserved. I'm back in the uk, but it's been a hectic journey, figure it's best to play Sat-Tues now, still cover the bigger events on the weekend, and the thurs-fri/mon-tues tournaments are the same. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 03, 2012, 04:43:38 AM Glad I played a few when I'd rested this evening.
Unlucky to be 5th in the $20k $3r, a nice start $982.93. James you didn't pay in time.. ;-) Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 03, 2012, 04:54:22 AM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow.
We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 03, 2012, 11:33:08 AM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow. We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Nice start Matt. Paypal is good Good luck, I'll be joining you on a few this evening no doubt Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 03, 2012, 12:01:38 PM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow. We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Nice start Matt. Paypal is good Good luck, I'll be joining you on a few this evening no doubt Geo I'm not playing tonight mate, sisters organised a late 40th for me. Did post it, hope it's ok, playing Sat-Tues now? Only played last night to check set up at my sisters (got 2 screens now, only 1 last night, so only played a few), here's the full results: 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe $4.40 2174 940 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis $4.40+ 98 55 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL danskemann $3.30+ 2198 5 $983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 $1.10+ 12557 5723 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL raxxx9 $11 7828 1357 - Would be much easier for me to send on stars if that's ok, will take a few days at least on paypal, whatever's is best for you though. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 03, 2012, 05:53:39 PM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow. We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Nice start Matt. Paypal is good Good luck, I'll be joining you on a few this evening no doubt Geo I'm not playing tonight mate, sisters organised a late 40th for me. Did post it, hope it's ok, playing Sat-Tues now? Only played last night to check set up at my sisters (got 2 screens now, only 1 last night, so only played a few), here's the full results: 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe $4.40 2174 940 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis $4.40+ 98 55 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL danskemann $3.30+ 2198 5 $983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 $1.10+ 12557 5723 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL raxxx9 $11 7828 1357 - Would be much easier for me to send on stars if that's ok, will take a few days at least on paypal, whatever's is best for you though. Yeah of course mate Stars is good also Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 03, 2012, 06:58:58 PM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow. We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Nice start Matt. Paypal is good Good luck, I'll be joining you on a few this evening no doubt Geo I'm not playing tonight mate, sisters organised a late 40th for me. Did post it, hope it's ok, playing Sat-Tues now? Only played last night to check set up at my sisters (got 2 screens now, only 1 last night, so only played a few), here's the full results: 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe $4.40 2174 940 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis $4.40+ 98 55 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL danskemann $3.30+ 2198 5 $983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 $1.10+ 12557 5723 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL raxxx9 $11 7828 1357 - Would be much easier for me to send on stars if that's ok, will take a few days at least on paypal, whatever's is best for you though. Yeah of course mate Stars is good also Geo What's your SN mate? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 03, 2012, 07:11:37 PM Ripple I've sent you the $150 back, Geo, can send on stars or back to paypal, let me know. James, my skype will be back on tomorrow. We're freerolling I believe ;woohoo; Nice start Matt. Paypal is good Good luck, I'll be joining you on a few this evening no doubt Geo I'm not playing tonight mate, sisters organised a late 40th for me. Did post it, hope it's ok, playing Sat-Tues now? Only played last night to check set up at my sisters (got 2 screens now, only 1 last night, so only played a few), here's the full results: 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe $4.40 2174 940 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis $4.40+ 98 55 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL danskemann $3.30+ 2198 5 $983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 $1.10+ 12557 5723 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL raxxx9 $11 7828 1357 - Would be much easier for me to send on stars if that's ok, will take a few days at least on paypal, whatever's is best for you though. Yeah of course mate Stars is good also Geo What's your SN mate? thehibee2 Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 04, 2012, 09:04:37 PM Sent, but more as you sent too much.
Bit of a sweat in the HOT $16.50 (won a seat for $1.65).. We're 21/79. $6k up top Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 04, 2012, 09:07:46 PM make that 2/66
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: sovietsong on August 04, 2012, 09:58:33 PM Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 04, 2012, 10:10:54 PM KKvA3 AIPF for a top 5 stack, A on turn, out in 20th. sigh. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 05, 2012, 07:58:31 AM Latest results, have to admit to having a few at my late surprise (ish) birthfay, so not on top multi tabling form last nigth, played max 4 tables, and really titled not to go deeper in the Hot $15.60, just outside the top 18, my KK can't hold against A3, sigh. Deep runs in a few others, so up to over $1100 winnings so far. Ready for a full session today.
04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL shidoin $1.10+ 11884 2166 - 04 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL de ul $3.30 510 163 - 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Souler777 $17 2751 20 $128 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter $1.65 207 1st tie $17 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL torschtl $4 47 42 - 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter $0.55+ 112 1st tie $11 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter $0.33+ 381 1st tie $11 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL INLOVE $1.10 231 139 - 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL darek12 $8.80 4641 1099 - 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL nicebetman $2.22+ 9800 296 $45 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL antoxa_t $5.50 5672 5332 - 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Warible $3.30 9406 3895 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe $4.40 2174 940 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis $4.40+ 98 55 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL danskemann $3.30+ 2198 5 $983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 $1.10+ 12557 5723 - 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL raxxx9 $11 7828 1357 - Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 05, 2012, 05:59:40 PM Nice one Matt ,keep it going!
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 06, 2012, 01:28:16 PM A sunday full of sigh's..
Still 2 days to go, still up over $900, I'm shattered so having an afternoon nap before I kick off this evenings session, will try and update more later. 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL swindler57 $5.50 3259 2185 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Dms751 $1.35+ 91 90 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL djembeman999 $0.66+ 218 54 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL Dinklmania $1.10+ 5978 5551 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ChrisXCH $1.35+ 55 31 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL bandido0010 $2.75 86 78 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL Raltomo $4.40+ 618 341 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL schistosity $5.50+ 1199 115 $25 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL Danilo2417 $4.40 8181 6779 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ramioner $4.40 3637 1198 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL klem@nso $5.50 3075 1727 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Bassm88 $4.40 2654 1513 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL rastafari898 $3.30+ 3143 2553 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL corsa2l16v $1.10+ 14416 1788 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL vip25459 $11 15622 13048 - 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL sandiego83 $3.30 547 39 $8.20 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL nailuj90 $17 5546 5278 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL cynar60 $11 30260 18174 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL collins "AA" $2.75 206 57 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL mr.loon21 $1.65 249 193 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL BlackNero171 $11 7265 2825 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL jhduke $2.20 172 159 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ModzillaPL $2.20+ 2602 1114 - 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL speed34x $4.40 324 90 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL transit $2.20 152 100 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL MrVladman $8.80 9166 5498 - 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo OLPL lexxus81 $3.30 474 474 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL jimyx32 $2.20+ 2296 552 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL rushvan $4.40 3097 574 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL GOGUU GL $2.20+ 2306 171 $16 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL ILOVEYOU010 $5.50 9739 4969 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL miennam277 $4.40 5824 4678 - 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Armin Jahrom $3.30 6017 497 $6.31 Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: SuuPRlim on August 06, 2012, 01:41:18 PM very happy this has gone pretty well so far, glgl
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 06, 2012, 02:14:12 PM Good effort Matt, wasn't online yesterday keep it going mate
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 07, 2012, 02:44:20 PM Results and Profit so far (Profit/winnings at Bottom. tough Night again, deep runs, could bore you all with some sick beats, pretty standard though for this many MTT's. Did get to a point where I assumed I'd lose if I had an overpair AIPF, makes having them hold a little sweeter..
Apologies for not updating for people to sweat the deep rns, just been playing 6-12 tables so needed to concentrate. Will add any backers on skype and update a group there, best way I can think of for now. Last night tonight, seem to be down on what I promised to play, not sure how, but must stress the results are from OPR for now, I need to find out how to output the results from HEM in a form that can be read by everyone. Any tips anyone? Locked up a profit, and will be looking to run another, would also be interested on thoughts on prices/deals now, figure most will be the same as on package does not change anything in the big picture, is my price fair, am I underselling/overselling myself. Still looking for a long term deal too..! 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL fjamso 3.30+ 21 2434 243 26 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2kante 4.4 3106 2977 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL TerminatorPS 5.5 2496 1490 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL 2acesrob 4.4 2300 2170 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Przemo_88 3.30+ 12 2346 937 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL pl2306 1.10+ 2 13263 2546 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL 159fortuna15 3.3 2052 1162 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em * HENL WSOP Legend 11 8438 269 36 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL camikater 5.5 1348 409 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL alexogeo 2.75 156 130 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL KMart696 4.4 2877 2240 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL shrekas 1.65 196 30 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Chav 1.1 125 28 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL phunzz 11 4150 2177 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 0.55+ 2.5 137 1st tie 11 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ab7sh4k9 2.20+ 6 2350 2173 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Kirtix 3.3 1522 188 5.02 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 2.2 176 1st tie 11 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 0.33+ 1.5 437 1st tie 11 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL mikemorgan1 1.1 259 37 06 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL anttimonin 4.4 311 56 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Morcius 8.8 5055 4750 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL HuiRan 0.88+ 4 145 51 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL kokalakias 2.20+ 8 1759 534 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL BOLD LEAF 0.44+ 2 206 64 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL FLO NF 2.20+ 8 1607 589 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL iHasYou 5.5 5649 3634 06 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL YuShaay 2.2 5005 4399 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL swindler57 5.5 3259 2185 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Dms751 1.35+ 5 91 90 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL djembeman999 0.66+ 3 218 54 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Dinklmania 1.10+ 4 5978 5551 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ChrisXCH 1.35+ 5 55 31 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL bandido0010 2.75 86 78 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Raltomo 4.40+ 8 618 341 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL schistosity 5.50+ 10 1199 115 25 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Danilo2417 4.4 8181 6779 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ramioner 4.4 3637 1198 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL klem@nso 5.5 3075 1727 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Bassm88 4.4 2654 1513 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL rastafari898 3.30+ 6 3143 2553 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL corsa2l16v 1.10+ 6 14416 1788 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL vip25459 11 15622 13048 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL sandiego83 3.3 547 39 8.2 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL nailuj90 17 5546 5278 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL cynar60 11 30260 18174 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL collins "AA" 2.75 206 57 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL mr.loon21 1.65 249 193 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL BlackNero171 11 7265 2825 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL jhduke 2.2 172 159 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ModzillaPL 2.20+ 6 2602 1114 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL speed34x 4.4 324 90 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL transit 2.2 152 100 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL MrVladman 8.8 9166 5498 05 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo OLPL lexxus81 3.3 474 474 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL jimyx32 2.20+ 8 2296 552 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL rushvan 4.4 3097 574 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL GOGUU GL 2.20+ 8 2306 171 16 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL ILOVEYOU010 5.5 9739 4969 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL miennam277 4.4 5824 4678 05 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Armin Jahrom 3.3 6017 497 6.31 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL lessajr 5.50+ 15 1417 1157 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL felixvdp 3.30+ 6 2384 693 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL shidoin 1.10+ 8 11884 2166 04 Aug 12 Pot Limit Omaha OHPL de ul 3.3 510 163 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Souler777 17 2751 20 128 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 1.65 207 1st tie 17 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL torschtl 4 47 42 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 0.55+ 2.5 112 1st tie 11 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL sonicmatter 0.33+ 1.5 381 1st tie 11 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL INLOVE 1.1 231 139 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL darek12 8.8 4641 1099 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL nicebetman 2.22+ 8.08 9800 296 45 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL antoxa_t 5.5 5672 5332 04 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Warible 3.3 9406 3895 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL QuadVQuadMe 4.4 2174 940 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL Thalexis 4.40+ 12 98 55 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL danskemann 3.30+ 6 2198 5 983 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL losharik78 1.10+ 2 12557 5723 02 Aug 12 No Limit Hold'em HENL raxxx9 11 7828 1357 Buyins-$265.7 Rebuys/addons-$197.08 Winnings-$1350.53 Current Profits-$887.75 Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 07, 2012, 06:22:05 PM Nice going.....big finish tonight! :) Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 07, 2012, 10:39:27 PM Nice going.....big finish tonight! :) running terrible, well, that's Mtt's.. just cashed in the $1r, about 400th, so a few more flips from the decent money.. Bit of a sweat in the $15k 3r, currently 34/273 (270 paid..), still in a few others. 14/141 in the $15GTD now.. $4.6k up top Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 07, 2012, 11:13:05 PM lost QQ v KT AIPF...
back to av stack, which is 10bb... sigh Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 07, 2012, 11:31:11 PM Seen them, harsh but stick in there buddy
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 07, 2012, 11:49:40 PM Seen them, harsh but stick in there buddy Geo Sigh, had some run good, but to run into him with AKvAA he's calling K2ss.. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 08, 2012, 01:30:30 AM All over, rivered in a massive pot in the Big4.4 to finish the last 3 days as it's been going, not looked up stats fully yet, but ev on Sun-Tue has been terrible, so far under it sik, maybe that's just the pay back from the nice score on Thursday, but feel I could and maybe should have won a lot more.
My Account shows $670, which is all profit as stakes have been returned. Will post the full breakdown tomorrow when I can update it. Would like to play the profits for a few more days if that's ok to ask. It's late so I'll breakdown the individual profits tomorrow, it's around about $100 for 15%, still have to check HEM has imported all the hands, and OPR. Will post a few big hands, and info tomorrow too. Been a long 5 days, need some sleep.. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 08, 2012, 10:39:00 PM Just got back from work, going to make sure OPR picked up all the tourneys, my HEM missed a few, but if anyone has access to a sharkscope that might help. Having a nightmare with the rebuys/addons, I kept a note of them, but may have missed the odd one off. Will go over again tonight and post tomorrow.
Would like to put it out to everyone involved that I play for a few more days, we can take some profit now. But having a day off, then eager to continue. Spent time putting the results together and going over my play, happy in general, although will admit winning early took my focus off the smaller buy ins, and will change that. Have built up a regular daily spread of tournys, works out about $75-$100 a day. I've finished up all the work I needed to do so will now have 3 full days to play. Is everyone ok I keep on playing for 3 more days? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on August 09, 2012, 09:50:03 AM crack on mate.
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: skolsuper on August 09, 2012, 10:44:32 AM Yeah what Geo said, happy to keep rolling it over till you find a long term backer.
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 09, 2012, 05:05:56 PM fine....keep up the good work! Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 12, 2012, 11:48:54 PM Thanks all.
Will update properly in the next couple of days, had to do some extra work so couldn't put the full hours in. Managed to make a small profit on Sunday, Friday and Saturday were a reminder in variance, and I generally play lots of smaller tournaments or Sats when feeling the beats bringing on tilt, did this again Sunday, still running horrible, I'll post the HEM stats tomorrow, nut won red spade ticket, decided not to play, not sure why now, think I get these moments of BRM overkill, and feel I missed a shot now. Ran deep in the Sunday Storm, 66vA8 turns an A, out in 700th ish. I'm playing more now than I've ever done, well MTT's, so guess the beats just come thicker and faster the more I play. Comfortable with 9 tables now, and mixing up Sats, with MTT's, just gettting pained by some of the beats, and running so far under EV. Will be looking to continue with the few 45-180 MTT's i've played, help with times management, and varience I think, so makes sense, have the ok from Geo on that, so hope it's good with everyone? Anyone have any advice or articles, read loads on 2plus2, all Naoh's articles, and figure it's just a case of coming to expect and handle it better, any advice would be welcome though. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 17, 2012, 09:35:25 AM Apologies for not updating, a last minute work booking meant I'm back in Spain this weekend. Don't want to risk logging in from here, can either hold til i'm back (tues at the latest), or can see about getting someone else to log in if anyone wants the profit now.
I'm planning to play a Tues-Sun, and look to complete this at the end of the month if everyone is ok. I'll try and update the exact profit so far as soon as I can, it's over $500 still. Oh and if anyone's in Barcelona, I'm hosting the Ministry Of Sound party this Friday at La Terrazza, I'm sure I can work some free tickets, or more for high rollers. Message me on here or my facebook. Matt Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on August 17, 2012, 10:17:34 AM thats fine with me Matt Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 20, 2012, 03:24:39 AM Had a great break in Barca, well work Friday, ok, maybe my work consisted of drinking vodka, and keeping an eye on things (works for me in clubs). Hope the players who came had a good night, I'm naming no names, but will say It was good to meet you all, and hope I didn't bore you with my vodka influenced ramblings. Apologies to Pleno and Alex for not getting back to you, only saw the PM today.
It's a heat wave over here, but am 99% leaving back to the UK on Tuesday, and back to the grind. Been good to have a break from playing, after getting up to $1.1k profit in the first few days, were down to around $500. I've spent some time reviewing some MTT's and am happy with my play in general. So I'm ready to put in some good sessions before the end of the month, and hopefully start running +EV soon too. Just wanted to confirm with everyone that I play till the end of the month, when I hope to start a stake with some coaching/tournament reviews. Not finalised anything but will be looking into it more and let you know. If we're in profit at the end of the month and I have a long term deal I'll return the profits then. Still having no joy finding a way to export the result from HEM in a format that can be posted. Anyone help there? Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on August 31, 2012, 10:10:37 PM Not been able to play as my laptop (3 months old!) has issues with hardware, kept having 'thermal shutdowns', gave up on it today, it's off to get mended. Got another laptop now on indefinite loan, so want to have the weekend session, then go from there. Will post the profit so far tomorrow need to OPR it basically, although have HM backed up.
Still in healthy profit, and I haven't had the chance to even think about looking for a new longer term deal, I will get right on this, hope it's cool with all to keep playing the profit. Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: skolsuper on September 01, 2012, 01:29:51 AM Ty for the update, Gl this weekend
Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: Geo the Sarge on September 01, 2012, 12:25:49 PM No probs mate
Geo Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: ripple11 on September 01, 2012, 01:27:13 PM Ty for the update, Gl this weekend Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on November 21, 2012, 09:03:42 PM Here's the graph, got it uploaded to photobucket, but not sure how to PM it, so posted here so you can see.
Have PM'd all stakers a few days back with where it's at and happy to answer any questions. Gutted as it started so well, but ran under EV and lost some big pots deep where I was big favourite, standard right!? (http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k58/jackinbeat/31-7-present.jpg) Title: Re: 4 day Package including Weekend - ROI of 150% last month - Selling %'s Post by: jackinbeat on November 23, 2012, 02:43:39 PM I was planning writing a longer report on this post, explaining the lack of updates, no one has asked for this, but I felt I should try, well I tried, over 600 tournaments, proved too much, life is just too busy. If anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer them.
Thanks to all the investors , sorry we didn't bink bigger, but nothing lost, thanks for the chance. I'm still offering stakes, mainly through another site, but would like feedback on how to run a future stake as I am new to this. |