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Title: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: 34sooted5betshove on August 04, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Funny story.
Was playing to DTD deepstack yesterday.
30k starting
30min clock.
Second level blinds are 100-200.

I open hijack with  Jd 9d to 525
Button calls (oldish guy but solid good player)
Small blind fold
Big blind calls(young gun. Thinks he's the man lol)

Flop  Kc Js 7h

Blind checks
I check
Button checks

Turn  7d

Blind checks
I bet 1400
Button calls 1400
Blinds raises to 4000......

I call
Button folds(claims to off folded a king)

River  9c

So board reads

K J 7 , 7 , 9

And he instant bets 8500.

I call and he announces your good!!!!
I ask to see as iv called him and he shows
 5c 5s lololol

I turn over a scoop the pot.

I then go for a well deserved smoke and as I'm walking to the table I can here him talking about it
Saying
"I wouldn't of called if the 9 hadn't of come on the river"
And that I was a complete fish.
So I had to explain to him that the 9 didn't matter and a king was still beating me it's just that I know
He had F**k all. He then started raising his voice saying If I keep playing like this I'll loose all my money etc

At this point I had enough so I said quietly to him infront of the table that "the only reason I had called is because
You did that thing you usually does when bluffing" lol

At this he stood up and actually said to me shall we go outside to sort it out!!!

I think the dealer or floor should of been called at this point but wasnt.
Surely he should of got a penalty????


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: MC on August 04, 2012, 03:25:52 PM
Maybe stop trying to educate the fish and you won't come across these problems


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: George2Loose on August 04, 2012, 03:29:07 PM
I mean why would you even get involved? Let him moan while you stack your chips. Getting into confrontations like this is needless


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: TightEnd on August 04, 2012, 03:34:53 PM
1. Don't get involved

2. If you are unhappy call the floor. Not a lot of point posting about it a day after when you had the chance to do something about it at the time

3. Don't get involved.

4. In my experience you both would have been spoken to, no penalty


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: RED-DOG on August 04, 2012, 03:42:13 PM
Where's nirvana when you need him?


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: 34sooted5betshove on August 04, 2012, 03:52:16 PM
The whole point is the fact that he was a MASSIVE chip leader and I wanted to tilt him up.
Wanted him to be in every pot I was in


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: TightEnd on August 04, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
The whole point is the fact that he was a MASSIVE chip leader and I wanted to tilt him up.
Wanted him to be in every pot I was in

So when you tilt him, don't moan about it afterwards

(if i may be frank)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: JK on August 04, 2012, 03:55:46 PM
I had a similar thing in the Grand Prix last week, albeit alot less aggressive.

I peeled vs a guy pre with  Ad 9d after I iso a limper and he 3bs OOP, then call him down on a Jd9x6x2dTx board where he bets the exact same amount on every street as pre. He then goes nuts saying Im the worst ever and Im a massive fish. I just nodded and agreed and laughed along. It did help I had a friend on the table who kind of joined in with the guy and took the piss out of him. Also the TD walked past and had a good laugh about it too lol.

I guess its different as I just nodded and agreed. Best way to be IMO. Dont rise to them and smile quietly inside knowing the only reason theyre going nuts is because they got owned :)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: cambridgealex on August 04, 2012, 04:08:31 PM
I had a similar thing in the Grand Prix last week, albeit alot less aggressive.

I peeled vs a guy pre with  Ad 9d after I iso a limper and he 3bs OOP, then call him down on a Jd9x6x2dTx board where he bets the exact same amount on every street as pre. He then goes nuts saying Im the worst ever and Im a massive fish. I just nodded and agreed and laughed along. It did help I had a friend on the table who kind of joined in with the guy and took the piss out of him. Also the TD walked past and had a good laugh about it too lol.

I guess its different as I just nodded and agreed. Best way to be IMO. Dont rise to them and smile quietly inside knowing the only reason theyre going nuts is because they got owned :)

Agree.

With the bolded part.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: jgcblack on August 04, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
I had a similar thing in the Grand Prix last week, albeit alot less aggressive.

I peeled vs a guy pre with  Ad 9d after I iso a limper and he 3bs OOP, then call him down on a Jd9x6x2dTx board where he bets the exact same amount on every street as pre. He then goes nuts saying Im the worst ever and Im a massive fish. I just nodded and agreed and laughed along. It did help I had a friend on the table who kind of joined in with the guy and took the piss out of him. Also the TD walked past and had a good laugh about it too lol.

I guess its different as I just nodded and agreed. Best way to be IMO. Dont rise to them and smile quietly inside knowing the only reason theyre going nuts is because they got owned :)

Agree.

With the bolded part.

Confirmed.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: George2Loose on August 04, 2012, 05:03:24 PM
The whole point is the fact that he was a MASSIVE chip leader and I wanted to tilt him up.
Wanted him to be in every pot I was in

So when you tilt him, don't moan about it afterwards

(if i may be frank)

This


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: Alverton on August 04, 2012, 05:55:51 PM
This made me lol, ty.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: strak33 on August 04, 2012, 07:55:05 PM
Is this a brag about the call you made or standing up for yourself?


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: treefella on August 04, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
 posts like this are jus lol.
how old are you ?


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: MANTIS01 on August 05, 2012, 12:00:36 PM
Is it worth trying to tilt players up in some weekend comp? Just go and enjoy yourself and let your poker do the talking. Wouldn't even ask the fella to show his hand actually as you knew he had nothing.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: GreekStein on August 05, 2012, 12:09:25 PM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 05, 2012, 12:41:54 PM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.
Violence been seen too many times to mention, but can't think of one incident were anyone was thrown out. Tell a lie, saw a big lad called Minty get asked to leave the cardroom for a round penalty. He came back in after a couple of hands so two security tried to eject him but could not get him to move or put his arms behind his back. Eventually they got him in a head lock and choked him till he passed out then carried him out. You know mma Cos, how do they know when to stop choking. I thought they killed the guy.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: blueace on August 05, 2012, 01:03:49 PM
I think the point is, it is harmless discussing hands, but when an idiot escalates it and gets out of hand, just snap shout FLOOR.  Its entertainment for the table up until the point someone takes it too personally. Saw it last night where a young-ish bully was hassling an older gent. I told the dealer to call the floor and it had the desired effect.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: jgcblack on August 05, 2012, 01:19:16 PM
Any threat of any kind is beyond acceptable, no excuses. End of.

[ ] I've tilted people deliberately
[X] I've been threatened more than once the table
[X] I've been banned from a club for a few months because someone else threatened me
[ ] I took any if the situations lying down
[X] I've had to put a 70 yr old guy in a headlock and take him to the ground
[ ] The cup of tea he threw at me actually hit me.......
[ ] im known and loved all over...


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 05, 2012, 03:06:33 PM
Any threat of any kind is beyond acceptable, no excuses. End of.

[ ] I've tilted people deliberately
[X] I've been threatened more than once the table
[X] I've been banned from a club for a few months because someone else threatened me
[ ] I took any if the situations lying down
[X] I've had to put a 70 yr old guy in a headlock and take him to the ground
[ ] The cup of tea he threw at me actually hit me.......
[ ] im known and loved all over...
What so you don't deliberately annoy people. I thought it was an extremely usefull gift you possessed :)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: GreekStein on August 05, 2012, 03:20:36 PM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.
Violence been seen too many times to mention, but can't think of one incident were anyone was thrown out. Tell a lie, saw a big lad called Minty get asked to leave the cardroom for a round penalty. He came back in after a couple of hands so two security tried to eject him but could not get him to move or put his arms behind his back. Eventually they got him in a head lock and choked him till he passed out then carried him out. You know mma Cos, how do they know when to stop choking. I thought they killed the guy.

if you're being choked you'll resist as much as you can until the moment you're out. In professional MMA they only really let go once the referee makes them


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: corkeye on August 05, 2012, 04:19:56 PM
Best thing to do in this situation is either

1) Say nothing (as already mentioned) - other guy gets bored of chatting at you very quickly.

2) Agree with your opponent! Just say 'yep I am a fish, sorry about that' - that way he'll feel a bit bad and will prob shut up. If yr a reg and he's a reg he'll then go 'yes you are' and then run out of steam, may even get an apology.

Poker is a game where ego can take over. If you feel that yr telling someone WHY you made a play, that's ego. We have all been there. You feel you need to demonstrate to a weaker opponent why yr play was so good. Don't let that happen.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: MLHMLH on August 06, 2012, 04:05:04 PM
Can someone teach me how to put someone in a head lock until they pass out?  Could be very useful!


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 06, 2012, 04:06:38 PM
Can someone teach me how to put someone in a head lock until they pass out?  Could be very useful!

You would be better off putting his head deep into your cleavage :)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: MLHMLH on August 06, 2012, 05:26:32 PM
Can someone teach me how to put someone in a head lock until they pass out?  Could be very useful!

You would be better off putting his head deep into your cleavage :)

There are worse ways to go! pmsl


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 06, 2012, 05:35:41 PM
Can someone teach me how to put someone in a head lock until they pass out?  Could be very useful!

You would be better off putting his head deep into your cleavage :)

There are worse ways to go! pmsl
:)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: AlexMartin on August 06, 2012, 05:35:59 PM
how do you get in these situations? Just enjoy the game, dont give too much needle and dont educate people= simple.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: Tal on August 06, 2012, 08:24:42 PM
Next time someone says something nasty, just burst into tears.

Like gushing, wailing, floods of mucus-draining snivel-floods.

The sight of a grown man crying will offend everyone within a 100 mile radius and the villain will be so embarrassed he'll never want to play live poker again.

They won't even play a hand against you for the rest of the comp. I mean God help them if other people saw them taking chips off you as well.

It might sound degrading, but first place buys you a lot of Kleenex.

You. Are. Welcome.



Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: DMorgan on August 07, 2012, 01:54:50 AM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.
Violence been seen too many times to mention, but can't think of one incident were anyone was thrown out. Tell a lie, saw a big lad called Minty get asked to leave the cardroom for a round penalty. He came back in after a couple of hands so two security tried to eject him but could not get him to move or put his arms behind his back. Eventually they got him in a head lock and choked him till he passed out then carried him out. You know mma Cos, how do they know when to stop choking. I thought they killed the guy.

Haha, Minty would definitely make the Sheffield poker hall of fame


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: aaron1867 on August 07, 2012, 05:15:32 AM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.
Violence been seen too many times to mention, but can't think of one incident were anyone was thrown out. Tell a lie, saw a big lad called Minty get asked to leave the cardroom for a round penalty. He came back in after a couple of hands so two security tried to eject him but could not get him to move or put his arms behind his back. Eventually they got him in a head lock and choked him till he passed out then carried him out. You know mma Cos, how do they know when to stop choking. I thought they killed the guy.

Hahaha. Remember this!

I haven't seem him for ages too.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 07, 2012, 08:42:10 AM
Meh op acted like a tit but if ever someone threatens another player with violence the dealer should call the floor and said player should be ejected from the tourney.
Violence been seen too many times to mention, but can't think of one incident were anyone was thrown out. Tell a lie, saw a big lad called Minty get asked to leave the cardroom for a round penalty. He came back in after a couple of hands so two security tried to eject him but could not get him to move or put his arms behind his back. Eventually they got him in a head lock and choked him till he passed out then carried him out. You know mma Cos, how do they know when to stop choking. I thought they killed the guy.

Hahaha. Remember this!

I haven't seem him for ages too.
Minty, Daz Roe and Barry, will all be looking forward to Genting opening soon.  All 3 of em are decent blokes and got a harshly treated. Trouble is they don't spew enough dough on the tables. People have done a lot worse but get away with it because they are degens.

My favourite was when Daz's initial ban got lifted on his return he got as far as reception before he got a life ban from Grosvenors. Don't know why he got banned from Dtd but am pretty sure it would have been something and nothing that escalated over something and nothing when the red mist descended. These guys are characters and brighten up poker for me.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: DMorgan on August 07, 2012, 03:26:36 PM
So gross that it was 4/5 years ago that I last played with some of those guys. Daz is the guy that always played DC right? Wore the same raincoat every night for years?


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 07, 2012, 04:56:25 PM
So gross that it was 4/5 years ago that I last played with some of those guys. Daz is the guy that always played DC right? Wore the same raincoat every night for years?
Yeah probably a stone island one :) I remember the only time I ever saw full flush at Dtd . He was very funny giving it all his speeches about players being pigeons etc. daz sat down and immediately destroyed Luke with the verbals. Luke was also had a CP company jacket on. Daz said "nice jacket but you are a disgrace wearing it nd soiling the name of a great British institution." I dare not tell Daz that they were infact made by the Italians :)


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: aaron1867 on August 07, 2012, 09:48:25 PM
I would not say minty is a decent bloke to be fair, he is very lucky that all the years he has been on the poker scene that he hasn't had his head kicked in.

I know both minty and Barry are banned for G casino. I think all of Sheffield is waiting for the opening of GENTING, Sheffield poker scene is in a terrible decline.


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: smashedagain on August 07, 2012, 10:02:51 PM
I miss guys like that because they can turn a sometimes boring day into a funny memorable day. Love Frankie Rastafish etc. And the Mad Turk winning Stoke is just pure gold.

A lot of people laugh at Barry and his antics but he gave me a lift home to Scunny one night from Dtd. Considering that's another 40 miles past his house in Sheffield and then 40 back again I will do anything for him he asks. People just don't get Yorkshireman sense of humour. Loz Gosney is another diamond


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: aaron1867 on August 07, 2012, 10:19:22 PM
Barry is ok, he can liven up a table.

As for Lawrence, not keen on him really, smile Ffs lol


Title: Re: You can't talk to me like that!!!! Can you??
Post by: DMorgan on August 07, 2012, 11:44:07 PM
Gosney was the Isildur of live poker before Isildur could ride a bike