Title: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Wilfie on August 29, 2012, 06:22:53 PM Evening, just wondering what everyone thinks you should do when your opponent suddenly sits out?
It obviously auto folds their sb but should you limp from the button every time and then check it down? I waited most of the time before limping but did take it down on the flop. Should I have just passed the blinds between us, that could have gone on for hours? Do stacks / blinds make a differance? Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Yian on August 29, 2012, 06:25:01 PM Online - NEVER
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Wilfie on August 29, 2012, 06:27:26 PM Online - NEVER Elaborate please? You think I should just raise raise raise? Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: leethefish on August 29, 2012, 06:39:51 PM Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smurf on August 29, 2012, 06:40:14 PM raise every hand and turn the chat off...then you dont have to read the moaning about loss of connection when they come back and you've rinsed their stack.....it's dog eat dog online.
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Yian on August 29, 2012, 06:42:58 PM I think online where most of the time we don't know our opponent, I wouldn't feel too scummy to take advantage of this. It's your opponents responsibility to be at the table, although he may be unfortunate to get disconnected at times, it's a situation that you'll come across often, especially if you play the HU turbo touneys that you should just grasp the opportunity. It may feel like stealing but there's no way of telling that your opponent wouldn't do the same to you.
If it was a rare occurrence of a live HU match, I think we can be a bit more courteous and give our opponent the chance to get back to the table. Online just feels like its populated with people who want to squeeze every edge and take every advantage possible so I think you have to be relentless to keep up. Min-raise every button as fast as possible and smile every time you get the walk. Although sometimes your opponent gets back just in time to be left with very few chips and makes a massive comeback to win which feels like karma has just bitch slapped you across the face. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: discomonkey on August 29, 2012, 06:45:35 PM hu in an mtt ill give them a break for 5 mins to get their connection but if it takes too long ill just start raising and have automuck on..... if they are a random
if i know them and dislike them, ill insta start raising, if i like them ill try and contact them elsewhere by text or something and give them every opportunity to come back i feel like i would expect the other person to at least give me the chance to reconnect, so i will offer them teh same courtesy Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smurf on August 29, 2012, 06:45:57 PM played an online sat once to a dtd tourny and was 1st out of 12 when my internet crashed...came back about 60 mins later and i had finished 11th...top 10 won a seat...since then i have no mercy
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: rfgqqabc on August 29, 2012, 06:47:37 PM Once4 you reach stakes with regulars, you should try and wait for them, esp in HU cash or the like. At low stakes, you should try and win as quickly as possible. Reciprocity is the point here, if they would wait for you, do the same, or if there is a degree of common courtesy between the two of you.
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Yian on August 29, 2012, 06:52:14 PM Once4 you reach stakes with regulars, you should try and wait for them, esp in HU cash or the like. At low stakes, you should try and win as quickly as possible. Reciprocity is the point here, if they would wait for you, do the same, or if there is a degree of common courtesy between the two of you. It's not possible to take advantage of a player sitting out in HU cash in any way is it? Only mid-pot if they lose connection in which they have disconnection time bank which once it has run out you can bet. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Wilfie on August 29, 2012, 06:59:56 PM Cheers,
He got back just for the last hand where he hurled some abuse and lost, hope he's not at my table at the Chipleader. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smurf on August 29, 2012, 07:07:10 PM Cheers, He got back just for the last hand where he hurled some abuse and lost, hope he's not at my table at the Chipleader. like i said...chat off ;hattip; ;cupcake; Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: rfgqqabc on August 29, 2012, 07:35:32 PM Once4 you reach stakes with regulars, you should try and wait for them, esp in HU cash or the like. At low stakes, you should try and win as quickly as possible. Reciprocity is the point here, if they would wait for you, do the same, or if there is a degree of common courtesy between the two of you. It's not possible to take advantage of a player sitting out in HU cash in any way is it? Only mid-pot if they lose connection in which they have disconnection time bank which once it has run out you can bet. Yeah, snap betting when your opponent has timed out. Controversy if you would bluff but he dcs etc, i think giving him sometime to re-connect should be standard reaally, but doubt it at low stakes. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: JK on August 29, 2012, 07:39:35 PM Click the space over the raise button until your mouse has smoke coming from it and sets on fire. Or you win. If they come back just lol at them
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Wilfie on August 29, 2012, 08:17:13 PM Click the space over the raise button until your mouse has smoke coming from it and sets on fire. Or you win. If they come back just lol at them LOL I like it ;cupcake; Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: jgcblack on August 29, 2012, 08:40:06 PM Once4 you reach stakes with regulars, you should try and wait for them, esp in HU cash or the like. At low stakes, you should try and win as quickly as possible. Reciprocity is the point here, if they would wait for you, do the same, or if there is a degree of common courtesy between the two of you. It's not possible to take advantage of a player sitting out in HU cash in any way is it? Only mid-pot if they lose connection in which they have disconnection time bank which once it has run out you can bet. Yeah, snap betting when your opponent has timed out. Controversy if you would bluff but he dcs etc, i think giving him sometime to re-connect should be standard reaally, but doubt it at low stakes. I actually tried letting myself time down oop in order to induce before.... :P Click the space over the raise button until your mouse has smoke coming from it and sets on fire. Or you win. If they come back just lol at them LOL I like it ;cupcake; this... rrrrrrrrraise! Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: pokerfan on August 29, 2012, 09:24:54 PM If it was a Sunday major I'd get the host to pause it.
Big runner mtt, time bank each hand. Anything else raise n take. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: SuuPRlim on August 30, 2012, 02:04:47 PM if you know/think they'd do the same for you then time bank every hand and wait for them.
If you're don't know then raise every hand quickly as it's pretty much a lock they'd do that to you. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: DMorgan on August 31, 2012, 02:58:18 AM 90% of my online volume is heads up sngs so this is pretty common.
If its a random then you blind them off If its a reg that you know, blind them off and make sure they badger the network for a refund. If its a reg that you don't have a problem with him sitting you a lot, search him, sit all of his games and blind them all off Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: rfgqqabc on August 31, 2012, 03:01:15 AM 90% of my online volume is heads up sngs so this is pretty common. If its a random then you blind them off If its a reg that you know, blind them off and make sure they badger the network for a refund. If its a reg that you don't have a problem with him sitting you a lot, search him, sit all of his games and blind them all off People do this? I mean, i believe in reciprocality, but surely there is a line and regs shouldn't be doing this? Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: giveyourcash on August 31, 2012, 07:00:51 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_dilema
In a one shot game raise raise raise. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: DMorgan on August 31, 2012, 10:04:58 AM People do this? I mean, i believe in reciprocality, but surely there is a line and regs shouldn't be doing this? Shouldn't be doing what? Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smashedagain on August 31, 2012, 10:28:20 AM Dan have you ever got any abuse for doing that sort of thing and does it happen very often to either you or your opponents? It seems a bit of a scummy thing to do. On the other hand I don't play H/U but if in a sat and a mate disco's I might time bank fold to give him time to reconnect. Is this also bad and a form of collusion ?
Have you had any reprocussions from doing this. People must know who you are and want to confront you when they see you live. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: DMorgan on August 31, 2012, 11:15:20 AM You get the occasional bit of abuse if the guy comes back with a few chips left, but he'd have no problem doing the same to me. In over 20,000 games I've never disconnected against an unknown opponent and had them wait. Not once.
If you're +EV against the other regs then it's a pretty good idea to have them not like you anyway. Just means you get games all day rather than waiting for fish. You get more lobbies that way too because the bumhunting regs know that you won't stop rematching so they eventually just give up the lobbies and end their session which is more fish for me. Actually I have had one reg tell me he was going to come to my house and shoot me, but that wasn't anything to do with disconnections. I happened to meet the guy at UKIPT Galway this year. He was surprisingly sheepish in person. Who'd have seen that coming? :) Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: mondatoo on August 31, 2012, 12:15:21 PM You get the occasional bit of abuse if the guy comes back with a few chips left, but he'd have no problem doing the same to me. In over 20,000 games I've never disconnected against an unknown opponent and had them wait. Not once. If you're +EV against the other regs then it's a pretty good idea to have them not like you anyway. Just means you get games all day rather than waiting for fish. You get more lobbies that way too because the bumhunting regs know that you won't stop rematching so they eventually just give up the lobbies and end their session which is more fish for me. Actually I have had one reg tell me he was going to come to my house and shoot me, but that wasn't anything to do with disconnections. I happened to meet the guy at UKIPT Galway this year. He was surprisingly sheepish in person. Who'd have seen that coming? :) LMAO, quality. Good fade of getting shot Dan, congrats. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smashedagain on August 31, 2012, 01:27:43 PM You get the occasional bit of abuse if the guy comes back with a few chips left, but he'd have no problem doing the same to me. In over 20,000 games I've never disconnected against an unknown opponent and had them wait. Not once. If you're +EV against the other regs then it's a pretty good idea to have them not like you anyway. Just means you get games all day rather than waiting for fish. You get more lobbies that way too because the bumhunting regs know that you won't stop rematching so they eventually just give up the lobbies and end their session which is more fish for me. Actually I have had one reg tell me he was going to come to my house and shoot me, but that wasn't anything to do with disconnections. I happened to meet the guy at UKIPT Galway this year. He was surprisingly sheepish in person. Who'd have seen that coming? :) LMAO, quality. Good fade of getting shot Dan, congrats. Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: ruud on August 31, 2012, 01:42:06 PM You get the occasional bit of abuse if the guy comes back with a few chips left, but he'd have no problem doing the same to me. In over 20,000 games I've never disconnected against an unknown opponent and had them wait. Not once. If you're +EV against the other regs then it's a pretty good idea to have them not like you anyway. Just means you get games all day rather than waiting for fish. You get more lobbies that way too because the bumhunting regs know that you won't stop rematching so they eventually just give up the lobbies and end their session which is more fish for me. Actually I have had one reg tell me he was going to come to my house and shoot me, but that wasn't anything to do with disconnections. I happened to meet the guy at UKIPT Galway this year. He was surprisingly sheepish in person. Who'd have seen that coming? :) cliffs required! Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: Wilfie on September 16, 2012, 11:37:33 PM So I sat down at the Chipleader tourney in seat 9 and my verbal abuser was sat a few seats to my right! Not a 20 year old backward cap wearing scrote as I expected but a well dressed pleasent mannered gentleman! We had a giggle about it and played on, great tourney!
Title: Re: Etiquette when player sits out during HU play? Post by: smashedagain on September 16, 2012, 11:50:26 PM So I sat down at the Chipleader tourney in seat 9 and my verbal abuser was sat a few seats to my right! Not a 20 year old backward cap wearing scrote as I expected but a well dressed pleasent mannered gentleman! We had a giggle about it and played on, great tourney! lol. always gonna happen |