Title: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: cambridgealex on October 03, 2012, 04:00:23 AM Florian limps from the hijack on the £10 straddle. I raise Ahrt Jh to £40 from the cutoff. Keith Johnson calls on the button. James makes it £160 from the straddle. Florian folds. We?
James starts the hand with £950 and we cover. Dynamics: game is pretty slow and tight, about to break. I am winning, James is about level afaik. James knows I'm pretty aggro pre but knows I tend to lock up wins in big games towards the end of the session so might think I'm not gonna fk with him in this specific spot. We don't actually have much history / dynamic together. Keith is pretty peel-happy and will almost definitely peel if I peel (Keith has me covered about 2k effective and is obv a superior player and ip), he is also likely to peel if I fold and James knows this making his range slightly less bluff heavy IMO. Rank our options with explanations if you like. Peel, fold, jam, raise/call, raise/fold. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: George2Loose on October 03, 2012, 04:42:57 AM Keep the rec (Keith) happy and peel
Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: T_Mar on October 03, 2012, 08:51:51 AM Keep the rec (Keith) happy and peel lol wp :) Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: PaintingByNumbers on October 03, 2012, 11:41:50 AM James knows I'm pretty aggro pre In the context of this hand, does this mean that you would be isoing pretty wide? Fold. Dynamics: game is pretty slow and tight, about to break. Badger Bait? Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: DungBeetle on October 03, 2012, 11:57:30 AM I fold like a wimp.
Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: JustinSayne on October 03, 2012, 01:32:39 PM Fold > 4betfold to £290 > 4bet call > Jam > call
I dont know enough about James but I am going to presume he is good. Everything postflop is going to be meh for you unless you flop absa gin. Add to that, even if for some reason James intends to check fold flop, Keith is behind 2k effective and is going to give you grief pretty often too. I actually think 4bet calling/folding are really really close and it really depends on your image and if you have any relevant history. Jamming is a bit meh, lets him play perfect. If you think his range is wide enough and hes got a 5 bet bluff in him then just 4bet call. Another thing with our 4bet sizing. We can make it really small here. I really dont care if he flats our 4b. Hes going to be OOP and we have a pretty hand + initiative. Will be a exceptionally easy game. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: pleno1 on October 03, 2012, 01:33:42 PM I'd call, both 4bf, 4bc would be really bad, folding seems too weak when its such a great spot.
sooted too. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: JustinSayne on October 03, 2012, 01:36:12 PM I would agree calling is the nut line if he squeezes to £120 or smaller. £160 makes life so shitty though. Going to be £400+ going to the flop and turns gonna be a PSB.
I honestly think calling is the nut low with our stack size and his squeeze size Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: AlexMartin on October 03, 2012, 04:10:31 PM fold
Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: Tal on October 03, 2012, 06:33:59 PM Do you have to describe the action? Can't you just link to the video?
;scarymoment; Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: kinboshi on October 03, 2012, 06:38:29 PM Do you have to describe the action? Can't you just link to the video? ;scarymoment; ;applause; Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: stato_1 on October 03, 2012, 08:23:35 PM Pretty close to JustinSayne and for similar reasons:
Fold > 4bet/fold > 4bet/call > Call > Jam. Probably switch Jam and Call with AJo. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: Bully87 on October 03, 2012, 08:47:48 PM Foldings. Hating life with AJs
Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: SuuPRlim on October 04, 2012, 04:16:52 PM Keep the rec (Keith) happy and peel Stunning. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: SuuPRlim on October 04, 2012, 04:43:44 PM meh Just fold, game's breaking just can't see Keys taking off into a spot where Kieth's always going to call without something for value
Value = better than AJs here imo, not saying you won't show a profit callings or 4betting I just think this isn't a spot we really need in our lives. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: jgcblack on October 06, 2012, 12:43:23 AM meh Just fold, game's breaking just can't see Keys taking off into a spot where Kieth's always going to call without something for value Value = better than AJs here imo, not saying you won't show a profit callings or 4betting I just think this isn't a spot we really need in our lives. This, but I don't play in games this big. You said yourself you and James don't have a dynamic - sigh fold for me. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: FrenchieBeni on October 10, 2012, 11:16:42 PM flop spr's would be about 2ish otf so dont like calling. speshly vs 2 good players + not abs position even with such a pretty hand.
raise/fold is not really possible unless you cib + he thenbluff jams close to never. raise/call and jamming are the most meeeeh options. if we make it 350 he jams wed need 30% i guess James could be bluffing sooometimes. jamming needs to work around half of the time. but those 2 are thin plays anyway if ever +ev. i like folding best. fold > jam > raise/call > raise/fold > call. Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: Mondeoman on October 11, 2012, 01:31:49 PM Keep the rec (Keith) happy and peel +1, had 4c5c just wanted to see a flop innit - would have turned a flush draw as well Title: Re: £2/5 DTD cash hand with James Keys Post by: Royal Flush on October 12, 2012, 03:53:26 PM Surely we just fold and long to play in a game where people have more than 100bb?
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