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Title: Vs Rastafish Post by: TL900 on October 07, 2012, 08:04:18 PM Hand from last level yesterday felt like a pretty disgusting spot at the time and I really wasn't sure what to do.
Me: playing 240-250k @ 4/8k Rasta : playing like 600k table chippo etc. stacks behind : 300k, 300k, 150k, 250k Rasta opens UTG to 25k (had been his standard open for the 3 previous opens id seen in the 10-20 hands id been at the table. We look down at Ahrt Qc in MP. We? Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: pleno1 on October 07, 2012, 08:06:55 PM stacks behind?
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: TL900 on October 07, 2012, 08:14:07 PM edited OP mate
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Skippy on October 07, 2012, 08:35:06 PM I'm going to call.
If there is a shove from people behind, I'm going to call, providing Rastafish doesn't call first. If he does, I'm going to have a think. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: youthnkzR on October 07, 2012, 09:39:39 PM in his eye
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Boba Fett on October 08, 2012, 01:15:49 AM Havent played a hand with rastafish before but I think you can 3b/c v him
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: George2Loose on October 08, 2012, 01:20:24 AM If he 4 bets you're crushed
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: George2Loose on October 08, 2012, 01:21:06 AM Think 3 bet folding here is fine. Don't even mind a fold pre
Edit- he's 3xed it- just fold Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: PeeJay on October 08, 2012, 03:38:20 AM 3b calling would be pretty bad vs him imo. He talks a lot which gives off the illusion that he's loose and 'looking to gamble' but its all an act. If he 4bets then we are in the shitter. People might think its stupid but I like to be completely unbalanced in these sort if spots in live comps. Like make bigger shoves than I would online as appose to 3bet calling and being able to 3bet fold the mid/bottom of my 3bet value range, then just 'having it' when it goes in. No need for balance live imo. He will deffo peel with worse if we 3bet and I don't really like the idea of jamming 30bbs+ in a soft live comp where we have a big edge. I'd prolly 3bet min and make a pair then take him to town.
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: cambridgealex on October 08, 2012, 03:53:48 AM 3b f
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Pyso on October 08, 2012, 08:59:06 AM Hand from last level yesterday felt like a pretty disgusting spot at the time and I really wasn't sure what to do. Me: playing 240-250k @ 4/8k Rasta : playing like 600k table chippo etc. stacks behind : 300k, 300k, 150k, 250k Rasta opens UTG to 25k (had been his standard open for the 3 previous opens id seen in the 10-20 hands id been at the table. We look down at Ahrt Qc in MP. We? Put your headphones on. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: tight4better on October 08, 2012, 12:29:41 PM Not played a huge amount with rastafish but I'd be 3b/f here. Like numerous people say if he 4bets you're just crushed.
For everyone not familiar with him, 3x'ing/4x'ing is COMPLETELY standard even this late and we shouldn't be folding just for that reason IMO. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Boba Fett on October 08, 2012, 05:21:30 PM How wide does he generally open in these spots if he is mostly only 4betting AK/JJ+ Do we think he is peeling the rest of his opening range when we 3b?
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Pinchop73 on October 08, 2012, 05:57:37 PM 3b calling would be pretty bad vs him imo. He talks a lot which gives off the illusion that he's loose and 'looking to gamble' but its all an act. If he 4bets then we are in the shitter. People might think its stupid but I like to be completely unbalanced in these sort if spots in live comps. Like make bigger shoves than I would online as appose to 3bet calling and being able to 3bet fold the mid/bottom of my 3bet value range, then just 'having it' when it goes in. No need for balance live imo. He will deffo peel with worse if we 3bet and I don't really like the idea of jamming 30bbs+ in a soft live comp where we have a big edge. I'd prolly 3bet min and make a pair then take him to town. I like this. I think we have too much equity vs his UTG opening range to flat. His 4b range is so narrow it makes it an easy 3b/f. What I'm unsure of is how we go about dodging the inevitable runner runner. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: aaron1867 on October 08, 2012, 07:25:37 PM Anything but a call.
But as George said, if he 4 bets, you are in trouble. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Skippy on October 08, 2012, 08:00:36 PM If you are going to 3 bet fold, it only matters what your hand is if he calls. If you think he is either going to 4 bet all in or fold, and you are planning to fold to a shove, your hand may as well be a joker and the rules of bridge- it doesn't matter what your cards are. You are wasting a good hand like AQ.
In Rastafish's shoes, I'd never peel- I'd be out of position with 1.5 PSB effective left, and I wouldn't have the lead. Rastafish might though. If you think he is likely to flat the 3-bet, then the 3-bet becomes more attractive. I'm not sure why calling is getting hate though. 30bb deep is plenty enough to have a look at the flop. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: pleno1 on October 08, 2012, 08:08:05 PM Alot of wrong thoughts in that post skippy. Will reply tmro hen on phone if navy address befor.
Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Skippy on October 10, 2012, 10:13:23 PM Alot of wrong thoughts in that post skippy. Will reply tmro hen on phone if navy address befor. Bump for Skippy insult session. Title: Re: Vs Rastafish Post by: Pugwashed on October 10, 2012, 10:24:36 PM If you are going to 3 bet fold, it only matters what your hand is if he calls. If you think he is either going to 4 bet all in or fold, and you are planning to fold to a shove, your hand may as well be a joker and the rules of bridge- it doesn't matter what your cards are. You are wasting a good hand like AQ. A joker and the rules of bridge don't remove any combinations of AA/AK/QQ from his range. AQ does do this. This is why (had you ruled out flatting or 3b/calling AQ as possibilities) AQ would be a particularly good hand to 3b/fold |