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Title: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 06, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
the DTD Double Deepstack weekend will run again with the same Guarantees as this past weekend between Friday 30th Nov & Sunday 2nd December

£500 Buy in 100,000 GTD


(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/500-deepstack.png)

Day 1a Fri 30th Nov 5pm (note this is a change in start time)
Day 1b Sat 1st Dec 2pm
Day 2 Sun 2nd Dec 2pm

1a late reg to 10.15pm  1b late reg to 7.15pm

Re-entry available form 1a to 1b


£150 Buy in £30,000 GTD

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/150-logo.png)

Day 1a Fri 30th Nov 5pm
Day 1b Sat 1st Dec 3pm
Day 2 Sun 2nd Dec 2pm

1a late reg to 9pm  1b late reg to 7pm

Re-entry available form 1a to 1b


Don’t forget you can win your seats for both events online at just a fraction of the price, for further details see

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/500-deepstack

Nightly for the £500 8.30pm MAIN €50 1xRebuy & 1xAdd-on 2 SEATS GTD (Feeders all day)

Nightly for the £150 8.30pm €15 (1 Rebuy, 1 Addon) 2 SEATS GTD (Feeders all day)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 06, 2012, 11:27:38 AM
Will there be any live sats this time as the CPP sats will have ended?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 06, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
Excellent move on the change to Friday's start time.

So much better for people with jobs who have to travel.

Let's hope it makes the guarantee so it can keep running.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 06, 2012, 12:28:25 PM
Agreed that the start time change for the Friday makes complete sense for those who can't play the Saturday, but also work during the week :)up

Assume there'll be some live sats and larger online sats for this one - so will hopefully play it this time.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: david3103 on November 06, 2012, 12:34:33 PM
5pm start with 40 minute clock and presumably scheduled for a minimum 15 levels? (or possibly 17) That's a gruelling test if you've been at work all day.

The £500 finished very late on Sunday - would it not be better to have Day 2 starting at noon?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: millidonk on November 06, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
Agreed that the start time change for the Friday makes complete sense for those who can't play the Saturday, but also work during the week :)up

Assume there'll be some live sats and larger online sats for this one - so will hopefully play it this time.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: bobAlike on November 06, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
The £500 finished very late on Sunday - would it not be better to have Day 2 starting at noon?

This or dare I say it - 40 min levels throughout.

Never mind, I've got commitments that weekend :(


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: aaron1867 on November 06, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
5pm start with 40 minute clock and presumably scheduled for a minimum 15 levels? (or possibly 17) That's a gruelling test if you've been at work all day.

The £500 finished very late on Sunday - would it not be better to have Day 2 starting at noon?

Amen to this. 17 levels + breaks = :(

PS - Is there any news on possible GP, Monte Carlo, £500 Deepstack (if there is another) & Chipleader?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on November 06, 2012, 06:49:08 PM
Always got something to say that little boy !! Lol


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: tight4better on November 06, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
Playing the 150, get there pleeeeeeeeeeeease.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: cambridgealex on November 06, 2012, 06:54:05 PM
GG £1456 in other words


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 06, 2012, 06:59:37 PM
GG £1456 in other words
is this not when Prague is Alex?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: cambridgealex on November 06, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
GG £1456 in other words
is this not when Prague is Alex?

ah yeh sweet!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 06, 2012, 07:58:17 PM
i am turning into the internet police :)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: tight4better on November 06, 2012, 08:25:12 PM

i am turning into the internet police :)

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Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: titaniumbean on November 06, 2012, 09:15:36 PM


you're more like the prolific criminal they've hired to provide insider knowledge of dodgyness. you do this whilst keeping your edgy appeal for the crowds. wp


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: julian on November 07, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
i'm loath to criticise anything dtd do but i think this 150/500 weekend is pushing the 'trying to cater for everyone' mantra too far, too often.

surely better to have one 300 event & i'm pretty sure first place money would easily surpass 40k


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 07, 2012, 04:19:42 PM
i'm loath to criticise anything dtd do but i think this 150/500 weekend is pushing the 'trying to cater for everyone' mantra too far, too often.

surely better to have one 300 event & i'm pretty sure first place money would easily surpass 40k
yes let's have a £300 with 450+ runners.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Nicola Dusk Till Dawn on November 07, 2012, 04:25:05 PM
5pm start with 40 minute clock and presumably scheduled for a minimum 15 levels? (or possibly 17) That's a gruelling test if you've been at work all day.

The £500 finished very late on Sunday - would it not be better to have Day 2 starting at noon?

Amen to this. 17 levels + breaks = :(

PS - Is there any news on possible GP, Monte Carlo, £500 Deepstack (if there is another) & Chipleader?

Hey

There will be the return of some/all of these events early next year, after the CPP we will be focusing on 2013's schedule :) :) :)

Cheers Nicola


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: scotty77 on November 07, 2012, 04:55:51 PM
will be coming up and donating if I am not in Prague.

think the start time of Friday is a great move.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: tron1ft8 on November 07, 2012, 07:26:49 PM
defo looking to play the £500 on the friday havnt played at dtd for a while.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: aaron1867 on November 08, 2012, 10:41:08 AM
i'm loath to criticise anything dtd do but i think this 150/500 weekend is pushing the 'trying to cater for everyone' mantra too far, too often.

surely better to have one 300 event & i'm pretty sure first place money would easily surpass 40k
yes let's have a £300 with 450+ runners.

Yes to all of this. I am not sure why it ever changed? I remember why it changed and it was to up the gte to 150k, but now we are back at 100k. The 300 one never had any problems making the gte and ow the 500 does :( :(

Paying £500 really does stretch the boundary for me & a few others.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: david3103 on November 08, 2012, 10:51:02 AM
i'm loath to criticise anything dtd do but i think this 150/500 weekend is pushing the 'trying to cater for everyone' mantra too far, too often.

surely better to have one 300 event & i'm pretty sure first place money would easily surpass 40k
yes let's have a £300 with 450+ runners.

Yes to all of this. I am not sure why it ever changed? I remember why it changed and it was to up the gte to 150k, but now we are back at 100k. The 300 one never had any problems making the gte and ow the 500 does :( :(

Paying £500 really does stretch the boundary for me & a few others.

Make yer mind up !!

The £300 1st weekend of the month and £150 in 3rd weekend seemed to work in terms of numbers of players. Did it work for DTD though in terms of income generated?
As I recall it, the £300 weekend used to also have a £150 one dayer on Sunday?

To my simple mind, having both the £500 and a £150 running in tandem seems to be having an impact on the £500, but I do think that the £500 numbers have been impacted more by a reduction in the number of satellite seats on offer over the period when most of the satellite effort was aimed at St Kitts.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: shipitonetime on November 08, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
So so tilting i keep missing these weekends. F this living abroad bs. Coming back for Jan one fo sho!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Vinodh on November 10, 2012, 11:15:04 AM
Binked both 500 and 150 Seats for December :-) Hope to continue this good run while it lasts!!!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 10, 2012, 11:18:59 AM
Wp mate. It's good to be back


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Vinodh on November 10, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
Cheers Jase!!! I dont see you much online nowadays... Whats happening?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 10, 2012, 11:36:00 AM
Broke my nieces laptop last week. No tilty smash up, it just would not switch on. Plus am pretty skint tbh so am struggling.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: aaron1867 on November 10, 2012, 11:43:15 AM
Broke my nieces laptop last week. No tilty smash up, it just would not switch on. Plus am pretty skint tbh so am struggling.

Are you playing the sats?

Might be a better idea to put a BAP up & have a bash at both?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 10, 2012, 12:14:27 PM
I will be playing live sats if they run em but did not really like stumping up the £560 this month to play as I am a nit.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 12, 2012, 10:51:48 AM
Online

(http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/images/promotions/263.jpg)


Online £500 & £150 Deepstack satellites every night this week. Both at 8.30pm with 2 seats GTD in each

See http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/win-you-deepstack-seat-today/2287


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: jgcblack on November 12, 2012, 11:10:45 AM
For the first time in a while I can say 'IN for 500'

lets see if we can get further than last time!



Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 12, 2012, 11:15:06 AM
For the first time in a while I can say 'IN for 500'

lets see if we can get further than last time!


you still got a £500 seat John. I know you used to do ok in the sats which made me laugh. Win £500 seats for fun but pull your hair out losing $8 at 5c/10c :)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: jgcblack on November 12, 2012, 11:30:06 AM
For the first time in a while I can say 'IN for 500'

lets see if we can get further than last time!


you still got a £500 seat John. I know you used to do ok in the sats which made me laugh. Win £500 seats for fun but pull your hair out losing $8 at 5c/10c :)

yeah mate, still got one left.  Poor Nicola has been chasing me a while to use it... I'd better make it worthwhile!

I did ok on DTD satellites, shame they've changed the structures but I'll work out a way to make it work for me.  Would've sat'd into CPP but I'm away and wont be back in time to play it.

I'm winning at micros now, just need to keep the good work up.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 12, 2012, 11:40:23 AM
For the first time in a while I can say 'IN for 500'

lets see if we can get further than last time!


you still got a £500 seat John. I know you used to do ok in the sats which made me laugh. Win £500 seats for fun but pull your hair out losing $8 at 5c/10c :)

yeah mate, still got one left.  Poor Nicola has been chasing me a while to use it... I'd better make it worthwhile!

I did ok on DTD satellites, shame they've changed the structures but I'll work out a way to make it work for me.  Would've sat'd into CPP but I'm away and wont be back in time to play it.

I'm winning at micros now, just need to keep the good work up.
awsome news. Can't wait for you to move up the stacks were the swings mean so much more. I know you gotta start learning at the micros but the reports are gonna be so much more fun in the bigger games


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 13, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
Is there a logic in prizepool in the 15 euro r + a sats? 550 gtd pool and top two win seats 3rd is 100 euros. Seems strange when theres an overlay?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 14, 2012, 10:55:08 AM
Is there a logic in prizepool in the 15 euro r + a sats? 550 gtd pool and top two win seats 3rd is 100 euros. Seems strange when theres an overlay?

Have you qualified Simon?

Anyone else qualified?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 14, 2012, 10:55:18 AM
Online

(http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/images/promotions/263.jpg)


Online £500 & £150 Deepstack satellites every night this week. Both at 8.30pm with 2 seats GTD in each

See http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/win-you-deepstack-seat-today/2287


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 14, 2012, 11:00:13 AM
Is there a logic in prizepool in the 15 euro r + a sats? 550 gtd pool and top two win seats 3rd is 100 euros. Seems strange when theres an overlay?

Have you qualified Simon?

Anyone else qualified?

No, was in the 1R 1A  15 euro sat last night and prizepool was 550 euros gtd. However it was two seats @ 225 euros and 100 euros for third despite being nowhere near enough players to avoid an overlay. Good value for players but seems odd thing to do? The 500 sat had two seats only gtd and no third place prize which seems more sensible.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Nicola Dusk Till Dawn on November 14, 2012, 05:07:52 PM
Hi Simon

Thanks for letting us know, this is a set up error. It's not been spotted before, just means an extra €100 value for the players :)

Will see if we can get this changed asap.

Incidentally last night actually generated an extra €150 so no overlay :)

Cheers Nicola


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 14, 2012, 06:18:46 PM
Hi Simon

Thanks for letting us know, this is a set up error. It's not been spotted before, just means an extra €100 value for the players :)

Will see if we can get this changed asap.

Incidentally last night actually generated an extra €150 so no overlay :)
Cheers Nicola


It was no where near the gtee when I busted :) (Pretty early into it tho')


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Nicola Dusk Till Dawn on November 15, 2012, 10:37:22 AM
Hi Simon

Thanks for letting us know, this is a set up error. It's not been spotted before, just means an extra €100 value for the players :)

Will see if we can get this changed asap.

Incidentally last night actually generated an extra €150 so no overlay :)
Cheers Nicola


It was no where near the gtee when I busted :) (Pretty early into it tho')
I wasn't going to say anything......but seeing as you mentioned it, I think you may have been 1st out  ;hide;


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 15, 2012, 11:27:07 AM
Hi Simon

Thanks for letting us know, this is a set up error. It's not been spotted before, just means an extra €100 value for the players :)

Will see if we can get this changed asap.

Incidentally last night actually generated an extra €150 so no overlay :)
Cheers Nicola


It was no where near the gtee when I busted :) (Pretty early into it tho')
I wasn't going to say anything......but seeing as you mentioned it, I think you may have been 1st out  ;hide;

3rd out but the software does strange things to placings during late registration :)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Nicola Dusk Till Dawn on November 15, 2012, 06:05:27 PM
Hi Simon

Thanks for letting us know, this is a set up error. It's not been spotted before, just means an extra €100 value for the players :)

Will see if we can get this changed asap.

Incidentally last night actually generated an extra €150 so no overlay :)
Cheers Nicola


It was no where near the gtee when I busted :) (Pretty early into it tho')
I wasn't going to say anything......but seeing as you mentioned it, I think you may have been 1st out  ;hide;

3rd out but the software does strange things to placings during late registration :)
Oh ok, I'll let you off then :)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 18, 2012, 10:21:04 AM
Online

(http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/images/promotions/263.jpg)

Online £500 & £150 Deepstack satellites every night this week. Both at 8.30pm with 2 seats GTD in each

See http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/win-you-deepstack-seat-today/2287


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 19, 2012, 08:41:41 AM
Under a fortnight to go. Some of the satellite regs will be across the pond this week, others will be in Sheffield, so a great chance to qualify with overlays on the horizon in the sats...

DTD Online £500 & £150 Deepstack satellites tonight and every night this week. Both at 8.30pm with 2 seats GTD in each

See http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/win-you-deepstack-seat-today/2287


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: NEWY on November 20, 2012, 08:42:28 PM
Any plans for live mega sats this month?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2012, 10:16:46 AM
Any plans for live mega sats this month?

The team are all in St Kitts, I'd say this makes it less likely for Megas if they haven't already been announced


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 21, 2012, 12:22:03 PM
Any plans for live mega sats this month?

The team are all in St Kitts, I'd say this makes it less likely for Megas if they haven't already been announced
really? No live sats again. Any chance of confirmation


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2012, 12:24:58 PM
I'll ask. See if Nicola is checking emails in between Pina Coladas :-)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: jgcblack on November 21, 2012, 05:31:35 PM
fmfl..... first time in 6 months I was going to get a chance to smash a deepstack again..

And I've just had a call from work for emergency weekend work, sucks!

I'll be back as soon as possible though!




Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
Yes there are Megas next week

"Online, Mon – Thursday 10 seats GTD same price as this week

Fri club 10 seats (not sure of price yet)"

More details when they are announced

 


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: millidonk on November 22, 2012, 10:49:06 AM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 22, 2012, 10:55:00 AM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013
nice brag


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: millidonk on November 22, 2012, 11:56:15 AM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013
nice brag

Family visits, dropping off presents, anniversary and parties.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
Online Tonight 8:30pm: Win your 150 (30k GTD) or 500 (100k GTD) December Deepstack seat! 2 seats GTD in each satellite for next weekend: http://bit.ly/PVogBS

(http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/images/promotions/263.jpg)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 23, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013
nice brag

Family visits, dropping off presents, anniversary and parties.
another brag. Only parties I get to go to now involve upto 30 five year olds at a time


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 23, 2012, 04:01:58 PM
Details of the Mega Sats

 
Mega Satellites – 50 seats in total on last week


8.00pm Next Friday in Club (need 50 runners)

10 seats - £50 1R 1A (replaces normal £100 1R 1A)

 

8.30pm Online (need 60 runners)

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday– 10 seats GTE online €50 + 1R + 1A

Friday – 2 seat GTE 50 1R 1A


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: bobAlike on November 23, 2012, 04:04:17 PM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013
nice brag

Family visits, dropping off presents, anniversary and parties.
another brag. Only parties I get to go to now involve upto 30 five year olds at a time

I didn't know you were friends with Jimmy Savile Jase.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 23, 2012, 04:14:09 PM
Wiiiiiiiii Megas. Sighs every wknd is booked up til 2013
nice brag

Family visits, dropping off presents, anniversary and parties.
another brag. Only parties I get to go to now involve upto 30 five year olds at a time

I didn't know you were friends with Jimmy Savile Jase.
;)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: NEWY on November 25, 2012, 09:59:49 PM
Details of the Mega Sats

 
Mega Satellites – 50 seats in total on last week


8.00pm Next Friday in Club (need 50 runners)

10 seats - £50 1R 1A (replaces normal £100 1R 1A)

 

8.30pm Online (need 60 runners)

Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday– 10 seats GTE online €50 + 1R + 1A

Friday – 2 seat GTE 50 1R 1A

What does (need 60 runners) mean ?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 25, 2012, 11:03:15 PM
Based on the average spend per player, its the numbers needed to hit the guarantee (I think) per ten seat sat



Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 26, 2012, 09:58:21 AM
Mega Satellites for the weekend start Online tonight


8.30pm Online

10 seats GTE online €50 + 1R + 1A

€3 & €10 Feeders running throughout the day

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/500-deepstack


The event itelf: http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/events/500-deepstack


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 26, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
ROLLCALL PLEASE

Who is playing the megas?

Who is intending to play the £500 or the £150 this weekend?

I know the GUKPT Grand Final and an APAT are on as well, so its a busy week....


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Dewi_cool on November 26, 2012, 10:35:17 AM
In the 500 Saturday,see you there.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 26, 2012, 10:37:49 AM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Vinodh on November 26, 2012, 11:23:29 AM
Playing the 500. Not decided which day yet. Prolly on Friday.... if I bust,  can play 150  on Saturday!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 26, 2012, 11:29:19 AM
In for one or the other but really don't know which.

Probably end up playing the £500.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 26, 2012, 11:32:39 AM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.
this looks my likely option right now.

If you win a few feeders online can you use them for rebuy and add on in mega sat. Not been on the site for a while.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 26, 2012, 12:31:13 PM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.
this looks my likely option right now.

If you win a few feeders online can you use them for rebuy and add on in mega sat. Not been on the site for a while.

If you win a feeder you can't register for a later feeder on same day :(


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 26, 2012, 12:35:16 PM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.
this looks my likely option right now.

If you win a few feeders online can you use them for rebuy and add on in mega sat. Not been on the site for a while.

If you win a feeder you can't register for a later feeder on same day :(
oh ok. So if you win a feeder for peanuts then the comp is still likely to cost peanuts + £50 + £50 or do you still have the usual tossers trying to get folks playing it as a 1 bullet freeze out?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: redsimon on November 26, 2012, 12:37:49 PM
Last few ones have either not run (Saturday for example) or been mostly freezeouts, few rebuys. (Triple add on might encourage people :) )


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 26, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
Last few ones have either not run (Saturday for example) or been mostly freezeouts, few rebuys. (Triple add on might encourage people :) )
cheers


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 26, 2012, 02:05:15 PM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.
this looks my likely option right now.

If you win a few feeders online can you use them for rebuy and add on in mega sat. Not been on the site for a while.

If you win a feeder you can't register for a later feeder on same day :(
oh ok. So if you win a feeder for peanuts then the comp is still likely to cost peanuts + £50 + £50 or do you still have the usual tossers trying to get folks playing it as a 1 bullet freeze out?

Guilty.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: tikay on November 26, 2012, 02:09:55 PM
In for one or the other but really don't know which.

Probably end up playing the £500.

Oooh, I smell L-L value.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 26, 2012, 02:35:59 PM
In the £150 definitely  though maybe play £500 mega sat at the club Friday if it runs.
this looks my likely option right now.

If you win a few feeders online can you use them for rebuy and add on in mega sat. Not been on the site for a while.

If you win a feeder you can't register for a later feeder on same day :(
oh ok. So if you win a feeder for peanuts then the comp is still likely to cost peanuts + £50 + £50 or do you still have the usual tossers trying to get folks playing it as a 1 bullet freeze out?

Guilty.
i am not judging mate. Ain't been on for a while as I am killing lap tops for fun but 2 lads I come down with both have seats ( in 2 seat gtd comps I believe ) and both never had rebuy or add on. 


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Vinodh on November 26, 2012, 03:27:23 PM


[/quote]i am not judging mate. Ain't been on for a while as I am killing lap tops for fun but 2 lads I come down with both have seats ( in 2 seat gtd comps I believe ) and both never had rebuy or add on. 
[/quote]

Jase, the two seats ( 500 and 150) whcih I won through feeders - I didnt rebuy and add on. 10k chips for 50 euros is plenty of chips I believe!!! Although I should ass I might have spend another half BI trying to get a Rentry ticket! :-(


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 26, 2012, 03:57:51 PM


i am not judging mate. Ain't been on for a while as I am killing lap tops for fun but 2 lads I come down with both have seats ( in 2 seat gtd comps I believe ) and both never had rebuy or add on. 
[/quote]

Jase, the two seats ( 500 and 150) whcih I won through feeders - I didnt rebuy and add on. 10k chips for 50 euros is plenty of chips I believe!!! Although I should ass I might have spend another half BI trying to get a Rentry ticket! :-(
[/quote]yeah most seem to be onto the one entry only thing Vinodh. And I bet most of these guys got there £50 entry through a £3/£6 feeder job.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 26, 2012, 11:50:32 PM
There were 41 runners for the first 10 seat Mega. Overlaid a couple of grand

1 in 4 shot to get a £500 seat?

Every night this week at 8.30pm ladies and gents


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 27, 2012, 12:06:10 AM
There were 41 runners for the first 10 seat Mega. Overlaid a couple of grand

1 in 4 shot to get a £500 seat?

Every night this week at 8.30pm ladies and gents

 i was one of the lucky 10 think i am going to come down friday! Mabye try and work on bagging another seat this week do we know if it is re entry? as i never make day 2 at dtd!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 27, 2012, 12:07:32 AM
Well done

You can re-enter from 1a to 1b, but not for the same day


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 27, 2012, 12:13:21 AM
Was going to play tonight but for some reason my account's been blocked.

Look like great value.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 27, 2012, 12:16:50 AM
Well done

You can re-enter from 1a to 1b, but not for the same day

Thanks tighty! I would be very unlikely to entry same day anyway id much rather go home and start again! If i do get lucky enough to win another seat can i imagine i can choose not to use it and save it for another time if i dont want to?


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 27, 2012, 12:20:20 AM
Well done

You can re-enter from 1a to 1b, but not for the same day

Thanks tighty! I would be very unlikely to entry same day anyway id much rather go home and start again! If i do get lucky enough to win another seat can i imagine i can choose not to use it and save it for another time if i dont want to?


Best to check that with Nicola or online support. I think so, but they'd know for sure


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 27, 2012, 08:24:08 PM
Well done

You can re-enter from 1a to 1b, but not for the same day

Thanks tighty! I would be very unlikely to entry same day anyway id much rather go home and start again! If i do get lucky enough to win another seat can i imagine i can choose not to use it and save it for another time if i dont want to?


Best to check that with Nicola or online support. I think so, but they'd know for sure

I will ask one night this week when i am down! I believe they are still sunning themselves wouldnt want to trouble them to responde in betwen pina coladas!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 28, 2012, 09:13:24 AM
Kinboshi won a seat to the £500 and the £150 last night. Congratulations, but that is just greedy!

Anyone else qualified yet?

A reminder the Online satellites are nightly this week

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/promotions/162.jpg)

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/500-deepstack


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 03:52:42 PM
the 10 seat guarantee satellites are good value and can be won with just the one buy in. I have done so a couple of times in recent months although not this month. two attempts no luck.

I normally buy in direct if I fail to qualify but not this time. I seem to run terrible in the DTD £500 events losing with Quads, sets, AA and KK etc. So from now on its one satellite attempt and give it a miss if I fail.

I know its been requested many times on here recently about bringing back the £300 monthly. I would echo that or if not then the clock needs increasing to 1 hour. 40 Min's for £560 is not good. Its just my opinion but it seem players will attend in their hundreds for a good structure with a one hour clock. The GPS and UKIPT's are proof of that. I believe they had around 570 odd players at Sheffield GPS. It was a 1 hour clock with all the levels and 25k stack. Great tournament even though I busted last level on day 1 (thanks Barny).

I am puzzled as to why DTD does not not adopt a similar formulae for their monthly events which are poorly attended over recent months. I say this constructively because I am a DTD fan and reg.

I appreciate DTD have had problems sometimes hitting their guarantee so it cost the club money. Most players do not want the club losing money on any event. But if the structure and buy in are right the players will flock there.

The biggest factor in my decision making as to whether to play any event is the structure in relation to the buy in. Clearly its nice to see a big fat guaranteed prize pool but the right structure will generate big prize pools.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 29, 2012, 04:06:07 PM
Not sure if the tournament could be squeezed in over two days (with the split Day 1s as well, obviously) with hour-long levels.

An additional 20 minutes a level = an additional 3 hours every 9 levels.

There is an argument for the £300 v £500, but not sure there's an adequate argument for increasing the levels from 40 minutes to an hour.  Still plenty of play with a 40-minute clock for a monthly deepstack event.  Not sure that there's a clamour for the monthly deepstack at DTD to have the hour levels and the issues of trying to shoe-horn it into a two-day event. Might be wrong though.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: david3103 on November 29, 2012, 04:14:20 PM
I think it worked well with 40 minutes Day 1 and an hour on Day 2?
Likewise the lower level tournaments with a 30min/40min clock (Grands Prix)

Can't get there this weekend but loving the return of the mega sats and will definitely be there in January one way or another.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: George2Loose on November 29, 2012, 04:15:18 PM
Agree with boshi


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 29, 2012, 04:20:29 PM
Agree with boshi

QFT


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: cambridgealex on November 29, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
IMHO deepstack nut structure is 40min levels, 30k stack starting at 50/100. antes coming in a 100/200 nice and early. include the 250/500 l, 500/1k levels and the 2500/5000 level etc though as when those get missed off it's a noticeable difference.

40min clock with more levels>>> 1hr clock skipping levels.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: cambridgealex on November 29, 2012, 04:39:36 PM

I didn't even know you'd qualified boshi


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: david3103 on November 29, 2012, 05:15:18 PM
IMHO deepstack nut structure is 40min levels, 30k stack starting at 50/100. antes coming in a 100/200 nice and early. include the 250/500 l, 500/1k levels and the 2500/5000 level etc though as when those get missed off it's a noticeable difference.

40min clock with more levels>>> 1hr clock skipping levels.

sounds good to me


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 05:23:56 PM
Not sure if the tournament could be squeezed in over two days (with the split Day 1s as well, obviously) with hour-long levels.

An additional 20 minutes a level = an additional 3 hours every 9 levels.

There is an argument for the £300 v £500, but not sure there's an adequate argument for increasing the levels from 40 minutes to an hour.  Still plenty of play with a 40-minute clock for a monthly deepstack event.  Not sure that there's a clamour for the monthly deepstack at DTD to have the hour levels and the issues of trying to shoe-horn it into a two-day event. Might be wrong though.

Yep I fully understand the difficulty of 1 hour levels over 2 days. I doubt it is possible so it would need to be 3 days. The main point I'm making or trying to make is that if the structure is right then the players will turn up in large numbers even over 3 days, or 4 days if you have 2 day ones.

The numbers seem to be dropping at DTD over recent months so players are staying away for whatever reason yet the UKIPT's and GPS events are thriving. My guess is it has a lot to do with not quite getting the best structure for the buy in or visa verse. I believe something needs to change but I respect the fact that there are many players who like the 40/60 clock for £560. It just seems there are more that don't.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 29, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
IMHO deepstack nut structure is 40min levels, 30k stack starting at 50/100. antes coming in a 100/200 nice and early. include the 250/500 l, 500/1k levels and the 2500/5000 level etc though as when those get missed off it's a noticeable difference.

40min clock with more levels>>> 1hr clock skipping levels.

Very much this.

Hour clock would be an absolute disaster. Why would anybody want to play a £560 comp that lasted 3 days?!?!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 05:37:53 PM
IMHO deepstack nut structure is 40min levels, 30k stack starting at 50/100. antes coming in a 100/200 nice and early. include the 250/500 l, 500/1k levels and the 2500/5000 level etc though as when those get missed off it's a noticeable difference.

40min clock with more levels>>> 1hr clock skipping levels.

Very much this.

Hour clock would be an absolute disaster. Why would anybody want to play a £560 comp that lasted 3 days?!?!


Errrr    GPS £430/ 1 hour clock /over 3 days......... 570 players wanted to play this and did so.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 29, 2012, 05:38:44 PM
I think the problem with the numbers is for several reasons.  Firstly, I think there's been too much chopping and changing - for example last month didn't have the usual mega-sats because of the CPP. I'm sure that affected numbers quite dramatically.

Also, how many GPS events are there a year?  The £500 is on every month, are the GPS events?  (I've just checked, they've had 5 live events and there's a Grand Final to come - similar to the UKIPT at DTD or a Monte Carlo I guess - so that's half the number of events to the DTD monthly deepstack - do these events get double the fields of the DTD deepstack?).  The GPS events are also 'on the road' so will attract local players happy to play one big event a year, as well as those who travel from further afield.

You mentioned the deepstack being a £300 instead of a £500 - and I can definitely see the positives from the smaller buy-in, and there are some negatives too.  I don't think the £150 could be held on the same weekend as the £300 as the buy-ins are too close.  I don't think running the £150 on the same weekend as the £500 or £300 is a great idea full-stop, but I guess DTD know more about the figures and what works than an outsider who's basically guessing at what'd work.

Not sure how you come to your conclusion that more players would favour a 1-hour clock and a three-day comp over a 40-minute clock and a 2-day event?   Wasn't the 3-day event tried as the format for the DTD deepstack?



Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Nicola Dusk Till Dawn on November 29, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
Hi Guys

Numbers have been low for the online MEGAS so awesome value for you guys!

Who's playing tonights?

Good Luck all :)

Nicola x


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 06:36:24 PM
I think the problem with the numbers is for several reasons.  Firstly, I think there's been too much chopping and changing - for example last month didn't have the usual mega-sats because of the CPP. I'm sure that affected numbers quite dramatically.

Also, how many GPS events are there a year?  The £500 is on every month, are the GPS events?  (I've just checked, they've had 5 live events and there's a Grand Final to come - similar to the UKIPT at DTD or a Monte Carlo I guess - so that's half the number of events to the DTD monthly deepstack - do these events get double the fields of the DTD deepstack?).  The GPS events are also 'on the road' so will attract local players happy to play one big event a year, as well as those who travel from further afield.

You mentioned the deepstack being a £300 instead of a £500 - and I can definitely see the positives from the smaller buy-in, and there are some negatives too.  I don't think the £150 could be held on the same weekend as the £300 as the buy-ins are too close.  I don't think running the £150 on the same weekend as the £500 or £300 is a great idea full-stop, but I guess DTD know more about the figures and what works than an outsider who's basically guessing at what'd work.

Not sure how you come to your conclusion that more players would favour a 1-hour clock and a three-day comp over a 40-minute clock and a 2-day event?   Wasn't the 3-day event tried as the format for the DTD deepstack?



You make many valid points and yes we are guessing at why the numbers are down.

I believe that when DTD has tried the 1 hour clock over 3 days it has been well attended except for once. If a 3 day monthly event is not viable and it may well not be for various reasons (work or family commitments) then I think lowering the buy in would bring more players back to the club. £560 soon eats away at the majority of players bank rolls so I believe many players are waiting for the UKIPTs and GPS and to a lesser extent GUKPT's that have better structures.

The UK Poker scene is constantly changing so It will probably look different this time next year but I believe 1 hour clock deepstacks will remain popular and well attended.

The DTD monthly was an important fixture in my diary but at £560 for a 2 day monthly event event it is just a little too pricey when there are bi monthly UKIPT's and GPS's and other monthlies around.

And I say all this as a profitable tournament player so I wonder how the players who are not profitable manage it. (that's not a brag by the way as I am not as nearly as profitable as I would like to be).



Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 29, 2012, 06:42:35 PM
You've touched on possibly the most important issue - players have a limited bankroll/disposable income.  When the DTD deepstacks first started there really weren't any other comparable comps in that price-range.  But now the market has caught up and there is a choice for players. But they can't play them all, and therefore the player pool is spread more thinly.

This, and the fact that people are feeling the squeeze of the current economic climate. Maybe some of those who would have played a few £500 comps a month previously have now decided to cut back a little and instead will play just the one.

Not sure the solution is going to 1-hour levels though.  Don't think it'd be that much more attractive (or more attractive at all) to that many players to overcome these other issues that I think are far bigger factors.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
You've touched on possibly the most important issue - players have a limited bankroll/disposable income.  When the DTD deepstacks first started there really weren't any other comparable comps in that price-range.  But now the market has caught up and there is a choice for players. But they can't play them all, and therefore the player pool is spread more thinly.

This, and the fact that people are feeling the squeeze of the current economic climate. Maybe some of those who would have played a few £500 comps a month previously have now decided to cut back a little and instead will play just the one.

Not sure the solution is going to 1-hour levels though.  Don't think it'd be that much more attractive (or more attractive at all) to that many players to overcome these other issues that I think are far bigger factors.

I accept that 1 hour levels may not be viable so maybe reducing the monthly to a more affordable and less painfull when on a dry run level would be best (for me anyway).

I like Alex's suggestion re more levels and bringing in the antes sooner. A 45 min clock would be a good compromise and could be done if the tournament started earlier ie 1pm. I think most players live within two or three hours of DTD so starting earlier shouldn't be a problem. It's been said before but cutting the breaks down to 10 minutes from 20 would help when squeezing in the extra levels.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 07:25:48 PM
Hi Guys

Numbers have been low for the online MEGAS so awesome value for you guys!

Who's playing tonights?

Good Luck all :)

Nicola x

I had resigned myself to playing the £150 this month but hey, may give it one more shot tonight!


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 29, 2012, 07:31:50 PM
Hi Guys

Numbers have been low for the online MEGAS so awesome value for you guys!

Who's playing tonights?

Good Luck all :)

Nicola x

I had resigned myself to playing the £150 this month but hey, may give it one more shot tonight!

Do it. You know you want to :D


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 29, 2012, 07:58:30 PM
Hi Guys

Numbers have been low for the online MEGAS so awesome value for you guys!

Who's playing tonights?

Good Luck all :)

Nicola x

I had resigned myself to playing the £150 this month but hey, may give it one more shot tonight!

Cant tonight, had my orders, got to take the one and only out for meal. Maybe live megga sat tomorrow.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Cf on November 29, 2012, 08:15:23 PM
Going to 1 hour clock would make the comp less attractive to me. I'd rather it was just 45 minutes throughout like it used to be.

Also I don't see why I'm to find £500 w/ £100k gte appealing when it used to be £300 w/ £100k gte.

The £500 works for me as a special one off thing now and then with a big gurantee.

But monthly it just feels like i'd be paying almost double what I used to for no particular reason.

Obv can't run the £150 on the same day as a £300 so just run it on Sunday like back in the day as a 1 dayer.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Tal on November 29, 2012, 09:39:39 PM

Going to 1 hour clock would make the comp less attractive to me. I'd rather it was just 45 minutes throughout like it used to be.

Also I don't see why I'm to find £500 w/ £100k gte appealing when it used to be £300 w/ £100k gte.

The £500 works for me as a special one off thing now and then with a big gurantee.

But monthly it just feels like i'd be paying almost double what I used to for no particular reason.

Obv can't run the £150 on the same day as a £300 so just run it on Sunday like back in the day as a 1 dayer.

FYP. That's better.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: George2Loose on November 29, 2012, 09:54:04 PM
Lol


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: skolsuper on November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:

Big prizepool

More play (longer/more levels)

Cheap buyin

Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)

Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time. Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TL900 on November 30, 2012, 08:43:57 AM
The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.

massive +1 to this. 10min breaks with a 45min dinner break imo


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on November 30, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.

massive +1 to this. 10min breaks with a 45min dinner break imo


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: iangascoigne on November 30, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: smashedagain on November 30, 2012, 10:07:39 AM
20 min breaks far too long in my opinion. 10 minutes is enough. Those people who wanna do there dough on the tables or slots are not doing their brains in 20 mins. Having shorter breaks means they will be knocked out quicker and will gave the rest of the night whilst waiting for their mates to play tables.

Long diner breaks only encourage people to leave the club and go to Nandos etc. Support the club, eat in there if you are hungry please.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2012, 10:10:54 AM
A reminder of the schedule for this weekend

Hoping to see plenty of blondes playing one or both of the events


The £500, £100,000 Guaranteed

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/500-deepstack.png)

Day1a begins at 5pm tonight

Late registration is until 10.15pm

30,000 chips 40 minute clock, 1 hour clock on Day 2

Re-entry is allowed into 1b


Day 1b begins at 2pm tomorrow

Late registration is until 7.15pm


The £150, £30,000 Guaranteed

(http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/images/whatson/150-logo.png)

Begins at 5pm today

Late registration is until 9pm

30,000 chips and a 30 minute clock, 45 minute on Day 2

1b is tomorrow at 3pm

Late registration until 7pm


Tonight

LIVE TEN SEAT MEGA SAT FOR THE £500 (entry into 1b)


8PM

£50 + 1 Reload

Late registration til 9pm


Online Tonight


8:30pm: Final chance to sat into either the 150 or 500 Deepstack the 500 has 2 seats GTD http://bit.ly/PVogBS




blonde will be updating this weekend

The £500 Final table will be Live streamed on Sunday



Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Cf on November 30, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:

Big prizepool

More play (longer/more levels)

Cheap buyin

Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)

Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time. Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.

I'm not sure it did though. The guarantee (and essentially hence the prizepool) was the same for the £300 comp as the £500 comp. And the £150 is guaranteed at less than half of the old £300 guarantee. This is probably required due to the overlap between the two competitions so the result is the £150 feels like it's not at its full potential.

For me the £300 ticked your 4 boxes as it was:

Big Prizepool - Check. Was getting £100k+

More Play - Perhaps not as much as some would like but I thought 10k/45min was a perfect structure. It wasn't so slow as to be a grind but not too fast as to be crapshooty. I prefer it when tournaments have pace to them. I enjoy my poker but I don't really like the idea of sitting at a poker table for 12 hours of the day.

Cheap Buyin - Not cheap but I found £300 as a nice compromise amount that bridged the gap between pro and recreational players. Add to this the guarantee and it appeals to all.

Convenience - Ties in with more play. Longer clocks mean more time required to be at DTD. I remember the last £500 supersize and it went on til like 2am/3am if I remember correctly. Not so bad for a one off comp but I certainly don't like the idea of playing so late. With the field size they were aiming for/got I can understand this. But in general I'd rather have a faster clock and finish earlier.


What's happened for me by splitting it down the middle as you put it is there was once a competition I found really appealing, and it's been split into 2 different ones; neither of which appeal to me. I've had plenty of free time over the last few months but not felt the desire to make the trip and play either. Had it been the £300 then I daresay I'd have ventured down a couple of times.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: kinboshi on November 30, 2012, 01:01:43 PM
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:

Big prizepool

More play (longer/more levels)

Cheap buyin

Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)

Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time. Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.

I'm not sure it did though. The guarantee (and essentially hence the prizepool) was the same for the £300 comp as the £500 comp. And the £150 is guaranteed at less than half of the old £300 guarantee. This is probably required due to the overlap between the two competitions so the result is the £150 feels like it's not at its full potential.

For me the £300 ticked your 4 boxes as it was:

Big Prizepool - Check. Was getting £100k+

More Play - Perhaps not as much as some would like but I thought 10k/45min was a perfect structure. It wasn't so slow as to be a grind but not too fast as to be crapshooty. I prefer it when tournaments have pace to them. I enjoy my poker but I don't really like the idea of sitting at a poker table for 12 hours of the day.

Cheap Buyin - Not cheap but I found £300 as a nice compromise amount that bridged the gap between pro and recreational players. Add to this the guarantee and it appeals to all.

Convenience - Ties in with more play. Longer clocks mean more time required to be at DTD. I remember the last £500 supersize and it went on til like 2am/3am if I remember correctly. Not so bad for a one off comp but I certainly don't like the idea of playing so late. With the field size they were aiming for/got I can understand this. But in general I'd rather have a faster clock and finish earlier.


What's happened for me by splitting it down the middle as you put it is there was once a competition I found really appealing, and it's been split into 2 different ones; neither of which appeal to me. I've had plenty of free time over the last few months but not felt the desire to make the trip and play either. Had it been the £300 then I daresay I'd have ventured down a couple of times.

FYP


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 30, 2012, 01:40:13 PM
As said by James I believe, everyone has different priorities at the top of their wish list.

DTD have an almost impossible job to please everyone. Credit to them for  trying to find the ideal compromise.

I guess the numbers should dictate the direction in terms of structure and buy in etc.

Also as said by Boshi there are more tours and events now than ever so a dilution of player pools was inevitable.

Still, one thing is consistent and that is the passion that players have for the game so hopefully the boom will continue.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: CHIPPYMAN on November 30, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.


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Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: robyong on November 30, 2012, 02:49:20 PM
Hi, Ive already explained that the 200 runner £100k gte for the £500 was a TEMPORARY measure so we could focus on CPP qualification where we were facing a bigger risk than any potential overlay on any monthly deepstack.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: EvilPie on November 30, 2012, 02:50:45 PM
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.

Needs more love.

Hopefully be there tonight for the 500. If not it'll be tomorrow.

Awesome comp right on my doorstep. Whatever changes are made I hope they aren't too drastic.


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: bobAlike on November 30, 2012, 03:20:14 PM
Gutted I cant contribute to the prize pool this month. Family commitments must come first.
:(


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2012, 05:49:06 PM
Simon has told me the details of the New Year Deepstack

4th-6th January

£300+36

£150,000 GTD

1a 4th

1b 5th

re-entry into 1b

Final on the 6th

30k starting, WSOP  blind levels

40minute then 50 minute then 60 minute clock through the two days is the initial thought


Deepstacks from February onwards tba but won't repeat the £150-£500 two competition split as Rob Yong has implied in his post above


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Sweetman on November 30, 2012, 08:51:21 PM
Simon has told me the details of the New Year Deepstack

4th-6th January

£300+36

£150,000 GTD

1a 4th

1b 5th

re-entry into 1b

Final on the 6th

40minute then 50 minute then 60 minute clock through the two days


Deepstacks from February onwards tba but won't repeat the £150-£500 two competition split as Rob Yong has implied in his post above

(http://magsol.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/relevant.jpg)


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Tal on November 30, 2012, 09:24:23 PM
He's looking at hairbrushes


Title: Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
Post by: Gemini Kings on November 30, 2012, 10:02:19 PM
Simon has told me the details of the New Year Deepstack

4th-6th January

£300+36

£150,000 GTD

1a 4th

1b 5th

re-entry into 1b

Final on the 6th

40minute then 50 minute then 60 minute clock through the two days


Deepstacks from February onwards tba but won't repeat the £150-£500 two competition split as Rob Yong has implied in his post above

Good news. Structure looks great for the buy in.