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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 29, 2012, 08:15:23 PM »
Going to 1 hour clock would make the comp less attractive to me. I'd rather it was just 45 minutes throughout like it used to be.
Also I don't see why I'm to find £500 w/ £100k gte appealing when it used to be £300 w/ £100k gte.
The £500 works for me as a special one off thing now and then with a big gurantee.
But monthly it just feels like i'd be paying almost double what I used to for no particular reason.
Obv can't run the £150 on the same day as a £300 so just run it on Sunday like back in the day as a 1 dayer.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 29, 2012, 09:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Cf on November 29, 2012, 08:15:23 PM
Going to 1 hour clock would make the comp less attractive to me. I'd rather it was just 45 minutes throughout like it used to be.
Also I don't see why I'm to find £500 w/ £100k gte appealing when it used to be £300 w/ £100k gte.
The £500 works for me as a special one off thing now and then with a big gurantee.
But monthly it just feels like i'd be paying almost double what I used to for no particular reason.
Obv can't run the £150 on the same day as a £300 so just run it on Sunday like back in the day as a 1 dayer.
FYP. That's better.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM »
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:
Big prizepool
More play (longer/more levels)
Cheap buyin
Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)
Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time. Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 08:43:57 AM »
Quote from: skolsuper on November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.
massive +1 to this. 10min breaks with a 45min dinner break imo
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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Quote from: TL900 on November 30, 2012, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: skolsuper on November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.
massive +1 to this. 10min breaks with a 45min dinner break imo
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 09:30:43 AM »
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 10:07:39 AM »
20 min breaks far too long in my opinion. 10 minutes is enough. Those people who wanna do there dough on the tables or slots are not doing their brains in 20 mins. Having shorter breaks means they will be knocked out quicker and will gave the rest of the night whilst waiting for their mates to play tables.
Long diner breaks only encourage people to leave the club and go to Nandos etc. Support the club, eat in there if you are hungry please.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 10:10:54 AM »
A reminder of the schedule for this weekend
Hoping to see plenty of blondes playing one or both of the events
The £500, £100,000 Guaranteed
Day1a begins at 5pm tonight
Late registration is until 10.15pm
30,000 chips 40 minute clock, 1 hour clock on Day 2
Re-entry is allowed into 1b
Day 1b begins at 2pm tomorrow
Late registration is until 7.15pm
The £150, £30,000 Guaranteed
Begins at 5pm today
Late registration is until 9pm
30,000 chips and a 30 minute clock, 45 minute on Day 2
1b is tomorrow at 3pm
Late registration until 7pm
Tonight
LIVE TEN SEAT MEGA SAT FOR THE £500 (entry into 1b)
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£50 + 1 Reload
Late registration til 9pm
Online Tonight
8:30pm: Final chance to sat into either the 150 or 500 Deepstack the 500 has 2 seats GTD
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The £500 Final table will be Live streamed on Sunday
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 10:23:33 AM »
Quote from: skolsuper on November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:
Big prizepool
More play (longer/more levels)
Cheap buyin
Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)
Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3
. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.
I'm not sure it did though. The guarantee (and essentially hence the prizepool) was the same for the £300 comp as the £500 comp. And the £150 is guaranteed at less than half of the old £300 guarantee. This is probably required due to the overlap between the two competitions so the result is the £150 feels like it's not at its full potential.
For me the £300 ticked your 4 boxes as it was:
Big Prizepool - Check. Was getting £100k+
More Play - Perhaps not as much as some would like but I thought 10k/45min was a perfect structure. It wasn't so slow as to be a grind but not too fast as to be crapshooty. I prefer it when tournaments have pace to them. I enjoy my poker but I don't really like the idea of sitting at a poker table for 12 hours of the day.
Cheap Buyin - Not cheap but I found £300 as a nice compromise amount that bridged the gap between pro and recreational players. Add to this the guarantee and it appeals to all.
Convenience - Ties in with more play. Longer clocks mean more time required to be at DTD. I remember the last £500 supersize and it went on til like 2am/3am if I remember correctly. Not so bad for a one off comp but I certainly don't like the idea of playing so late. With the field size they were aiming for/got I can understand this. But in general I'd rather have a faster clock and finish earlier.
What's happened for me by splitting it down the middle as you put it is there was once a competition I found really appealing, and it's been split into 2 different ones; neither of which appeal to me. I've had plenty of free time over the last few months but not felt the desire to make the trip and play either. Had it been the £300 then I daresay I'd have ventured down a couple of times.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 01:01:43 PM »
Quote from: Cf on November 30, 2012, 10:23:33 AM
Quote from: skolsuper on November 29, 2012, 10:42:47 PM
Everyone has their own priorities, but the 4 main considerations people make when looking at a comp are:
Big prizepool
More play (longer/more levels)
Cheap buyin
Convenience (start/finish at reasonable times, not interfering with work/family life)
Obviously these 4 considerations all pull in different directions, in other words: you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Having one £300 comp ticked the big prizepool box at the expense of the other 3
. By splitting the tournament down the middle and having a smaller comp for people to whom cheap buyin is more important and a larger comp for people who place less importance on that particular factor, DTD increase satisfaction in all the areas at the expense of prize pool consideration. Personally I think it's the way forward, when it comes down to it most people would be equally happy winning £20k as £30k, as evidenced in some of the deals we used to see, and I hope that as people get used to the new setup the prize pools will increase again anyway with increased participation. I could be wrong and it goes the other way, but I hope they stick with it and it works. The only thing I would change is the 20 min breaks, so tilting.
I'm not sure it did though. The guarantee (and essentially hence the prizepool) was the same for the £300 comp as the £500 comp. And the £150 is guaranteed at less than half of the old £300 guarantee. This is probably required due to the overlap between the two competitions so the result is the £150 feels like it's not at its full potential.
For me the £300 ticked your 4 boxes as it was:
Big Prizepool - Check. Was getting £100k+
More Play - Perhaps not as much as some would like but I thought 10k/45min was a perfect structure. It wasn't so slow as to be a grind but not too fast as to be crapshooty. I prefer it when tournaments have pace to them. I enjoy my poker but I don't really like the idea of sitting at a poker table for 12 hours of the day.
Cheap Buyin - Not cheap but I found £300 as a nice compromise amount that bridged the gap between pro and recreational players. Add to this the guarantee and it appeals to all.
Convenience - Ties in with more play. Longer clocks mean more time required to be at DTD. I remember the last £500 supersize and it went on til like 2am/3am if I remember correctly. Not so bad for a one off comp but I certainly don't like the idea of playing so late. With the field size they were aiming for/got I can understand this. But in general I'd rather have a faster clock and finish earlier.
What's happened for me by splitting it down the middle as you put it is there was once a competition I found really appealing, and it's been split into 2 different ones; neither of which appeal to me. I've had plenty of free time over the last few months but not felt the desire to make the trip and play either. Had it been the £300 then I daresay I'd have ventured down a couple of times.
FYP
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 01:40:13 PM »
As said by James I believe, everyone has different priorities at the top of their wish list.
DTD have an almost impossible job to please everyone. Credit to them for trying to find the ideal compromise.
I guess the numbers should dictate the direction in terms of structure and buy in etc.
Also as said by Boshi there are more tours and events now than ever so a dilution of player pools was inevitable.
Still, one thing is consistent and that is the passion that players have for the game so hopefully the boom will continue.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 02:46:08 PM »
Quote from: iangascoigne on November 30, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 02:49:20 PM »
Hi, Ive already explained that the 200 runner £100k gte for the £500 was a TEMPORARY measure so we could focus on CPP qualification where we were facing a bigger risk than any potential overlay on any monthly deepstack.
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Re: DTD December Double Deepstack weekend
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November 30, 2012, 02:50:45 PM »
Quote from: iangascoigne on November 30, 2012, 09:30:43 AM
I think Mitch would prefer 30 minute levels with 3 hour Dinner breaks.
Needs more love.
Hopefully be there tonight for the 500. If not it'll be tomorrow.
Awesome comp right on my doorstep. Whatever changes are made I hope they aren't too drastic.
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