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Hi Blonde!!! Apologies if i miss anything out of this staking request thread as I'm new to this!!!  

About me:

My name is Thomas Ambler and I'm a 21 year old former student (of Business Management), and currently reside in Chesterfield. Throughout my life I've had some level of success at the majority of things I've put my mind too, such as playing both Football and PC gaming, to a professional standard; Playing for 'Nottingham Forrest' up to being 16/17 years of age, and Playing the Call of Duty series on PC to top 5 European standard for a good amount of my 'career' (as according to the 'official rankings').

My poker career thus far:

I've currently been playing poker a little over two years now, with some moderate success. The majority of this was live cash games, and after around 8 or so months i realized that i was actually making more at the casino at nights then i was in my job (working as a part-time cashier in a Betfred shop - whilst still at University) so i quit, and haven't had a proper job since (around 18 months ago). I first ventured into online MTTs last October / November time, where i went on quite a heater after a friend set me up on a staking deal with 'Bankroll Supply' on the iPoker Network. We parted our deal around March 2012 and i took a short break away from online MTTs to play some more live cash games. Around May 2012 i was offered a new staking deal on Pokerstars which i took, this ended around two months ago and I'm now being backed across all sites on another deal.

I'm currently in a coaching group in our stable - lead by 'Theshanetrain / Shanetrain22' & have the odd session / regular hand discussions with 'Aggro Santos'.

Statistics (Online Poker names / links:):

Pokerstars - Gaggleokings
OPR - http://officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/GaggleoKings/poker/results/E7052628CAD947FB859E0FA21DDA0B58.html?t=2
Sharkscope - http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/*/players/gaggleokings

iPoker - Paul1x (This was the account given to me when i played for BRS, results from 600 games onwards on sharkscope are mine - BRS can confirm).
Sharkscope - http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/iPoker/players/Paul1x

iPoker - AM11BLR
Sharkscope - http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/iPoker/players/AM11BLR

Partypoker - Demkingsgagg
Sharkscope - http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/*/players/demkingsgagg

888 Poker Demkingsgagg
Sharkscope - http://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-Statistics//networks/*/players/demkingsgagg

Pocketfives Link
Pocketfives - http://www.pocketfives.com/profiles/gaggleokings/

As you can see I'm currently downswinging on Pokerstars, so have decided to add; Partypoker, 888poker and iPoker to try and iron out varience

Statistics (Live poker results)

Hendon Mob:

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=186065

What i am selling:

I'm selling 30% of my action in the Sheffield Leg of the Genting Poker Series @ 1.15.

Why i am selling:

£430 is a fairly large buy in for myself, and therefore i would like to reduce the risk.

Why i think I'm a good investment:

There are a number of reasons i think i am a good investment:
- A good % of the field will be made up of Sheffield Reg's - who i feel i have a clear advantage over having made a living off of them whilst playing live poker professionally.
- Although i got lazy in regards to online MTTs around the middle of this year, lately i have been putting more and more volume in and am currently playing the best poker i have ever played.
- Having previously played live events with the buyins being equal and/or larger than this one, i feel i will have an edge when it comes to the buyin level effecting my decisions when it comes to doing the right thing (as for alot of the players in Sheffield - this is an extremely large buyin and many will be shot taking).
- I have won every local tournament of note in Sheffield (including the Sheffield Link tournament which i chopped for ~£5k) and therefore have experience playing the later stages vs locals, and know who more to put pressure on in situations.
- I have experience vs Reg's on iPoker (which is where the satellites to this tournament are held).

Confirmation:

Just to clarify, i am selling 30% of my action in the £430 Sheffield leg of the Genting Poker Series @ 1.15

5% = £25 (rounded up from £24.73)
10% = £49 (rounded down from £49.45)
30% = £148 (rounded down from £148.35)

Can take Bank Xfer only!!!

Thanks for reading (and hopefully considering)!!!

Tom

(P.S. I know my post count is relatively low in relation to that required to post in this sub-forum, however i would like to point out that i have been a member of blonde for over 18 months - just for the majority of the time a lurker rather then a poster! (For those who will point my 320 or so post count out :D )).

(P.P.S. I may open up more % closer to the time as I'm still waiting on a friend to confirm an amount booked).

THE TEAM

Booked
Eso Kral - 10%
The Camel - 10%
Leatherman - 10%
Honeybadger - 10%

Any references?

Reserve me 10% pending on these.

10% pls

have sent you a pm!

booked ty! :)

will pm bank details later :)

10% please, assuming references check out (please PM me)

10% plz

Confirmed 10%, send me bank details and I'll ship on Monday or Tuesday.

Booked ty, will send pm now :)

have opened up 10% more!

Booked ty!!!  :)

SOLD OUT NOW :)

will pm all bank details later tonight when i get home!

Thanks for opening up extra, having problem sending funds pal.. Sent ya a pm

Not a problem mate! Thanks for bringing my error to light! :)

Now sent fella  :D

good luck us

5% please if it becomes free.

Thanks.

More then happy to open up 5% for you mate :) will send pm  just to confirm!

If any more comes free, could you reserve it for me, please, Tom?

Only just seen this, looks excellent, hope you do well in it.

PS - Did that woman get thrown out?

I was actually waiting for you to post Tom, pity I missed. I think I should see you there, depending.

As its you Mr. Tikay i will happily free a slice for you! Will send pm!

:) Aye see you there mate!

Shipped mate, sorry for delay complete forgot which obv means you will bink  ;)

GLGL Tom

Recieved all funds ty :)

Will be registering for Day 1a (thursday) later tonight, gl to us - lets do a win.

Really, really good OP imo, best of luck mate

Cheers mate :)

Tom, I am playing tomorrow.

If you have a spare 5% going, I'll take it and ship it now or give it you tomorrow, if not that's fine.

Good luck tomorrow.

Good luck Tom!!

Oh yes, deliver the bacon to our door. ;)

Cheers for gl's all :) will do my best to 'deliver the bacon' ;)

Aaron: sorry mate ive already sold more then planned so am afraid i can free any more but gl to you mate, and will see ya there if your playing today, if not then hopefully on days 2 % 3 :)

Have borrowed the gf's phone for the day (as I'm currently phone less due to some slightly silly drunken antics) so I'll be able to update, will post cc's and hands as much as possible :)

1st break and We Have Movement in the right direction....

....Starting stack 25k, we have 25250!!!  No real hands of note as of yet.

Sighhhh...

Blinds 75/150, UTG raises to 400, HJ (decent online guy) 3bets to 1050, we have KK in the CO and flat, button cold 4 bets to 3550 (active foreign guy), folds round to 3bettor who goes all in for 18k, we sigh call, button then tanks for a few mins and folds JJ face up.. 3bettor obv has AA and holds (J high board) so we are left with ~8k.. At least cold 4bettor didn't call with JJ..

Unfortunately we have just bust... 4 limps, we look down A9 in the sb and make it up, BB checks, we get it all in vs K6ss and j10cc on 6s8c9s, turn Kh river is Jd.. Slightly annoyed but considering a re-entry if I can within the next hour and a half or so (will not re-enter if the blinds pass 200/400.

Looking to sell 60% of a re-entry @ 1.15. Can only take bank xfer and will need to be sent tonight! (Obviously people who brought %s of the initial buy in have 1st refusal).

*the online kid with AA was judgedredd13

If ever there was a spot to fold kings...

Have already re-entered, will give up my own personal % if any of the original backers want any for the first 30 mina of play, other then that I have sold out. (Will refund any %s booked if I just within this time)

Closed

Any update ?!

Bullet 2: was up to 45k then got AK in Vs AQ for 20k a piece and he flops a Q.. Sigh, currently have about 27k (600/1200/100ante) - last level of night

Built back up to 35kish then opened A10, BB peels ( massive fish ), AA6 flop, checks to me I bet 3200, he c/r to 7200 I call, turn is an 8, he checks I check behind ( he's c/r'd flop twice as a bluff so check behind for him to barrel river ) river 7 he piles (for about the pot) I call he has A8.

Unlucky Tom.

I would actually have taken my share of the 2nd bullet if I had been Online last evening, but I was working, so I was not able to. I run good!

To say I would have been very pissed off if you had won with the second bullet would be an understatement.

You should have mentioned the possibility of having another shot in the OP and offered the shareholders a chance to buy into both stakes.

Apologies for the 'mistake', as mentioned in my OP I'm completely new to selling pieces and therefore didn't completely grasp the etiquette. I had no intentions of re-entering at any point previous to my busting yesterday as i simply couldn't justify spending that amount of money on a single tournament, however my friend offered putting up my share of the money (40% of £430) on a 50/50 deal - and this was totally out of the blue. I was unable to play the following day and it seemed too good of a deal to pass up at the time - based on my experience of the tournament that day (being extremely soft). Although i know it's not a sufficient period of time to offer another shot - i did post on here about purchasing %'s of my re-entry and left it for around 50 minutes or so before i did re-enter (it would have been longer but the blinds were going up and my friend wouldn't put the money up if i re-entered after this level), then was willing to give another 30 minutes whilst my 2nd stack was in play - and even offered to refund if people booked %'s within 30 minutes and i busted during this period - (myself and my friend who put the money up both agreed that we would give up our personal %'s if was required before we made the deal between ourselves). I also had a lengthy discussion with another friend of mine (Callum Morgan - BornToBubble on blonde) about the situation and we both figured it was OK for me to do what i did. I understand that people who brought %'s of the original entry would have been annoyed if i would have won / made a decent run, and i know it wouldn't have been the same but i would have definitely offered some sort of token gesture to all.

Again i apologize for both my early busting and misunderstanding of the etiquette of selling pieces, it was totally my fault and i will definitely learn for next time. I hope you don't hold my mistake against me in future. (For the next event i sell i will offer the people who brought pieces of the original entry first reserve on my action and even if is being charged - will sell at 0 markup. If i don't sell for an event before the time i play a £430 - £1k+ buyin (excluding the event itself of course) i will free-roll each person 20% of the action they purchased in this thread (i.e. if you purchased 10% of GPS Sheffield i will give you a 2% freeroll of my action) :). Sorry about the misunderstanding!!

50 minutes was nowhere near enough.

At the very least you should have pmed me/other investors.

Frankly, I think you should have turned down the offer, no matter how good it was.

You can surely see the opportunity for a player to scam backers in this spot?

You are working with other people's money and you need to be completely clear and up front in your transactions/dealings.

Her's a mythical example:

Player gets backed for a tournament, playing for 25%.

When he gets to the venue a mate offers him that if he busts he'll pay for his reentry and the player will get 40% off his action.

Do you think the player will put 100% effort in for his first bullet?

No, he'll punt like crazy to try and get a big stack and play properly when he's got 40% off his action.

An even more unscrupulous player might take the second offer, pocket the investors money and tip the bloke running the tournament a pony to mark him down as having a reentry when he actually only had an original entry.

The more I think about this, the worse it is.

BTW I am not accusing you of doing either of those things, I think you have just not given the situation enough thought.

There is a tournament every week, your long term reputation is worth far more than your ev in one event.

You should have turned down the offer.

Why would you invest in someone you thought was capable of such tricks?

I wouldn't.

I have no idea who Tom is, but I thought this might well be a soft event so I fancied a punt and his references swayed me to trust him.

As I said above, I think it's unlikely he did anything underhand.

But as Tom said, he is inexperienced at being staked and I am pointing out what I think is an error in actions to show him how he should act if a similar situation came up in the future.

To be clear.

I would be beyond furious if Tom had won the tournament with his second bullet, having bought 10% in his first bullet and not having the chance to have the same share again.

As I said earlier, maintaining a spotless reputation is far more valuable in poker than the ev of playing in one tournament.

I can see your point, but I don't really see it the same way.  Second bullets must be less likely to be positive EV than first ones.  If someone wants to fling more money at a second bullet than the first one they are welcome to sell it to whoever they like.

I definitely think it is something that should be mentioned in all potential staking arrangements for future re-entry tournaments though. 

I would also add that people should make clear when they are planning to join a tournament.  I staked somebody in an event in the summer who didn't show up until the end of level 4.  While I didn't reach your beyond furious, I was pretty irritated by this development.  I didn't pay a premium for somebody to play off a 20 BB stack.  Of course this is nothing to do with the OP, just seemed to be related. 

Maybe "beyond furious" is a little over the top..

But when I buy a small share in someone I often forget about it, then suddenly remember a few days later and open the staking thread to find out the result.

I can't imagine I'd have been very amused to see Tom cop 15k and then later discover I had 0% of it!

Possibly not, i am truly sorry if i caused offense / upset people with my decisions. I thought by taking my friend up on his proposal that i was seizing an opportunity, not that i was causing upset. Apparently it turns out the i was doing the opposite of what i intended and therefore could quite possibly have gained a bad reputation, due to my lack of thought.

In hindsight, after hearing your opinion, i wish i did decline the offer. As you say there are plenty of other opportunities out there. But whats done is done and i hope that people will understand my 'mistake' was totally innocent.

Very fair point on the thinking you have won when you haven't.  Have experienced that before but through my own stupidity and not realising who I have staked and what events I have staked them in.

Pretty much this.

I think Camel might be being a tad harsh on the OP here.

Yes perhaps he should have included the possibility of the second bullet in the OP out of courtesy to investors.

And yes ideally he could have pm'd everybody at the time, but at least he posted very clearly about the situation at the re-entry time in the thread.

However, mentioning potential unscrupulous options is a little unfair on the op's character, who seems pretty transparent and maybe just a little green in this area.

No worries, apology not needed.

Just chalk it down to experience and best of luck in the future.

I wasn't intending to sleight OP character, just pointing out why I thought he shouldn't have taken the offer.

If I had invested £50 once, it's pretty bleeding obvious that I would have taken the same share again.

(Or perhaps I would have taken 5% twice)

Fair enough mate.

That coin trick doesn't work when I try it on people btw, obv doing it wrong!

Tom, I don't know who you are and hence I only bought your action as a bit of a fun punt. However, I think you have handled the (completely justified) criticism from Keith very maturely and professionally. Accepting criticism/advice from someone who knows his stuff is not always easy for some people. Good for you for taking everything said on board, and with such good grace.

FYP

do you know what FYP means Frankie?

Fixed Your Pant ( FYP ) ?

Fry Your Phish

This. (apart from the bit about me knowing stuff)

On reflection, I was a bit hard on Tom here.

But the way he took the criticism impressed me greatly.

Will definitely invest again in the future.

I like Camel

fyp

Cheers for the kind words guys, especially after the mistake put you both out. Nice to see there are some good people about. Thanks for being decent about it. :)

Tom, what you should do here is refund the people who had % in your second bullet & take the money of all those in the first bullet ;)

But in all fairness, was a bit guttering to see this & I don't think you thought it through. I did not budget for a second bullet myself, but if I had busted as early as you did, then it does leave you in an awkward situation. Obviously within yourself you did not expect to be busting that early & I know personally you can;t afford two bullets, so when an oppurtunity arises for a possible second bullet, you are not going to turn it down.

I think what you should perhaps done like Keith said is give it a bit more time. If you had given a bit more time & was sure original backers would want a piece, then I would have lended you the money to buy in.

I hope this does not put anyone off backing you as I think you are a good horse to be on. I think like me & Craig said over the dinner break, would be happy to stake again if anything arises.