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As you must all know I vary rare post on pha for fear of embarrassment for Not remembering all the facts stack sizes etc.

I think I should of called in this spot (I would of lost and bust if I did but that's no the point)

Ok so I made the final table of the £150 at DTD on Saturday with 130k blinds where at 5k /10k

First hand ....

The cut of shoves for about 100k ish and the button tanks and re shoves (chip leader) I was in the sb with  Ad Jd
My thought process was the cut off (shortest stack) would be shoving light and the button was gonna re shove to isolate and a load o times my  Ad Jd is gonna be miles ahead!
I tank fold but regretted it as soon as I mucked

Big blind wakes up with aces
The cut off had  Qc Ks

The big stack that re shoved  Aspades 6s and nailed the flush on the turn to take both players out
So it ended up being a good fold ....but was it the correct fold ??

Fold

Yeh Deffo fold. Just happens to be one of those spots where u did have the best hand. Most of the time you're crushed

Fold too

Ladder opportunity :-0)


p.s next time, and I hope you post on PHA again, leave what the other two had til later..ie don't post the result in the opening post. That way people can give opinions on the information that you had at the time

Ok mr tight end ty ty

fold for me, can't even win with aces in these spots.

Huh looks close actually.

It's a spot that can be easil worked out mathematically, in on the toilet on y phone so unable to ATM!

Just post your expected ranges for both villains and something will work it ou for you.

Easy fold for me but mathematically probably very close.

So many opportunities still to come in this comp to get your chips in first and you've got decent FE right down to 5 bigs.

Need to know if there's any real shorties about before making a decision with any conviction, but in the case of there not being any this looks much closer to a call than a fold. CO should be verrrrry wide here, and if the bigstack button is good enough to know this he'll be isoing with a range behind AJs for sure. The good thing about big suited aces is that it's very hard to be a big equity dog even when wrong so in the absence of any very short stacks around the table and knowing we hardly have an M we can hang around much longer with, i will be all in.

Agree with not posting results when wanting advice.

You sure its close? FT? Can't imagine its even close icm wise. Would tank fold live but be happy. Even if its a call, it'll be really close and we won't lose a lot by folding here for sure. We are on a final table and can easily have a huge edge after this.

Are there antes btw?

Sounds a fold if only for ICM reasons.

I don't think this is close
So much better spots to get ur money in then calling it off with aj vs two other ppl and a player to act

13 bigs isn't huge but it's still a good shove stack and not many people will call correctly in live mtts

I think it's a call, bottom of my range will have to check when at home though.

Yea 1k ante I think it was

I think its a fold here. With 13 BBs live you still have plenty of time. Wait for a better spot although i do agree its close. If we have AQ here i would say that is my borderline were im probably getting it in but not happy and AK snap getting it in etc.

getting it in online, don't think its close live

Reading it I thought it should be a call if the CO and HJ have appropriate shoving ranges but then again that's without being ICM savvy. I suppose it is a situation where you need to factor in the prize structure, other people's stack sizes (not just the players in the hand) and the game flow as it won't be far from the borderline either way. Yes you have 13bb but what does it represent in terms of chips in play. For example if another player at the table has 4bb that info alone could make this marginal decision a fold, if it was a call that is. Someone who's better at making ICM based decisions needs to look at it first.

I was thinking something like this.

I suspect you can get it in against 2 people with correct ranges in this spot, but that's unlikely to be the case live.

the second guy is reshoving a6 tho

true, but no reads posted in OP, so this is knowledge gained after the hand.

No reads on re-shove
First hand of final and wasn't on his table all day

I would have folded.Major reason being a mixture of not wanting to go 3 way with AJ,If it's the first hand on the final table I am wanting to get a better feel for ranges as well as it's easy to ladder up a few places as the really short stacks go a little crazy,also like to be the first to push rather than call. Lee,I rarely post on the PHA site for fear of showing the limited thinking of the post 50 generation but I would have done what you did :-)

Online its close, Live vs sickos its close.. Live vs random / standard villian is gotta be a fold imo

nobody can comment, because no reads. theres no reads on both players?

gaf if its live/online, if the guy is 80 then fine, but its read dependent, so we can define ranges correctly.

disagree with this statement, peoples ranges in spots like this are generally tighter live then online - this is not an oppinion its fact

yeh readless our defaults are obv way different whether its live or online

its not a fact, its your opinion?

but yeh i do agree, on the first hand i fold here about 90% of the time.

but yeh op needs reads, unless they havnt been on your table the whole time in the tournament then there must e something.

Pretty sure its fact, especially at these levels. Even if you insist its opinion then i pretty confident its not just my own. If you asked a sample of players who grind MTTs online but also have a decent sample live (obv not gonna be a massive sample but one large enough to make judgement all the same), then im sure every single one would agree with me

pointless argument obv

ignore me, just been rolling my face around on the keyboard after a brutal day  ;technolog; ;nipnip; :pop:

I would need to find a good reason to fold here

Shocker^^^^^^^ ;-)