Should I be calling here?

[BorntoBubble]

I think its a fold here. With 13 BBs live you still have plenty of time. Wait for a better spot although i do agree its close. If we have AQ here i would say that is my borderline were im probably getting it in but not happy and AK snap getting it in etc.

[TL900]

getting it in online, don't think its close live

[Yian]

Reading it I thought it should be a call if the CO and HJ have appropriate shoving ranges but then again that's without being ICM savvy. I suppose it is a situation where you need to factor in the prize structure, other people's stack sizes (not just the players in the hand) and the game flow as it won't be far from the borderline either way. Yes you have 13bb but what does it represent in terms of chips in play. For example if another player at the table has 4bb that info alone could make this marginal decision a fold, if it was a call that is. Someone who's better at making ICM based decisions needs to look at it first.

[MC]

getting it in online, don't think its close live

I was thinking something like this.

I suspect you can get it in against 2 people with correct ranges in this spot, but that's unlikely to be the case live.

[pleno1]

the second guy is reshoving a6 tho

[MC]

the second guy is reshoving a6 tho

true, but no reads posted in OP, so this is knowledge gained after the hand.

[leethefish]

the second guy is reshoving a6 tho

true, but no reads posted in OP, so this is knowledge gained after the hand.

No reads on re-shove
First hand of final and wasn't on his table all day

[iangascoigne]

I would have folded.Major reason being a mixture of not wanting to go 3 way with AJ,If it's the first hand on the final table I am wanting to get a better feel for ranges as well as it's easy to ladder up a few places as the really short stacks go a little crazy,also like to be the first to push rather than call. Lee,I rarely post on the PHA site for fear of showing the limited thinking of the post 50 generation but I would have done what you did :-)

[cambridgealex]

getting it in online, don't think its close live

[youthnkzR]

Huh looks close actually.

It's a spot that can be easil worked out mathematically, in on the toilet on y phone so unable to ATM!

Just post your expected ranges for both villains and something will work it ou for you.

Online its close, Live vs sickos its close.. Live vs random / standard villian is gotta be a fold imo

[pleno1]

nobody can comment, because no reads. theres no reads on both players?

gaf if its live/online, if the guy is 80 then fine, but its read dependent, so we can define ranges correctly.

[youthnkzR]

nobody can comment, because no reads. theres no reads on both players?

gaf if its live/online, if the guy is 80 then fine, but its read dependent, so we can define ranges correctly.

disagree with this statement, peoples ranges in spots like this are generally tighter live then online - this is not an oppinion its fact

[cambridgealex]

nobody can comment, because no reads. theres no reads on both players?

gaf if its live/online, if the guy is 80 then fine, but its read dependent, so we can define ranges correctly.

yeh readless our defaults are obv way different whether its live or online

[pleno1]

its not a fact, its your opinion?

[pleno1]

but yeh i do agree, on the first hand i fold here about 90% of the time.

but yeh op needs reads, unless they havnt been on your table the whole time in the tournament then there must e something.