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"Veteran broadcaster Stuart Hall charged with three counts of indecent assault on girls aged 9, 13, and 16".

I so hope this is not true.

He is 82, an OBE, and much respected broadcaster these days. The alleged assaults are said to have occurred in the 1970's and 1980's.

:(

i heard this and was in total shock guy was still broadcasting in his own style this weekend and is an unbelievable talent but even if cases are dropped or he is found not guilty i doubt we will hear his tones on radio again and even if we do i doubt i could listen too him with the suspicion that he could be guilty

i already cant listen to a certain radio 5 presenter whom i read had one of them super injunctions out over a case of voyeurism of young boys in public toilets

Heard this on the way home, very sad to hear indeed

Yes, whatever the truth, or however it turns out, desperately sad.

If there isn't any truth in the allegations, then his name will still be tainted.  Of course, if the allegations are true then it's even more sad.

Exactly that.

Thought it was very telling how the other old TV celebrity who was questioned by police on the same day the Leveson report came out wasn't named in the press (even though he was top trending on Twitter) whereas Starr, DLT and now Hall were quickly named.

+1

Regardless of outcome of the case, and let's remember that he's innocent until proven guilty, I'm gutted that there'll be no more of his unique football reports on a Saturday afternoon for the foreseeable future.

The post-match drive home just got a bit emptier  :(

^^^

I suppose it is of no import given the seriousness of the charges, & the affects (effects?) on the lives of all those involved, but yes, his Match Reports were unique in every way, & they alone sometimes made R5 Live worth a listen most Saturdays.

A depressing tale in every conceivable way.

This is why people shouldn't be named until convicted of offences of this nature unless they are on the run.

They've nicked another one today, but not announced who it is.

Do they flip a coin to decide whether to say who it is??

Though, of course, it leaks out. And it's a corker.

Who is it?

Breaking news: PR consultant Max Clifford arrested on suspicion of sexual offences.

Sky News Oct: Max Clifford: “You Don’t Ask for Birth Certificates” http://bit.ly/UHIQVR

"Kiss and Tell" anyone?

Any 70/80s DJs left to accuse ?

Tony Blackburn must be expecting the next knock on the door

Next step is to round up everyone who has been on a Louis Theroux documentary, though that should be pretty obvious at the time.

You must follow the same people on Twitter that I do :)

Interesting to compare the reaction from many between when Stuart Hall was arrested and when Max Clifford was.  To be expected probably, and it's as though Stuart Hall has earned the right to be innocent until proven guilty; whereas Clifford is an odious snake to many anyway.

Imagine the "12-15" that clifford was "representing" - they will be booking flights to brazil tonight

Ha probably, would imagine our interests overlap somewhat. I also follow Louis, which is where i plagurised it from.

"MilliDonk wins poker tournament"

I'll tell the engravers to take Mantis's name off the Most Tasteless Post of the Day trophy, then...

A little while ago it seemed that the abuse of celebs when children was ubiquitous. Barely an angst ridden star who wasn't it seemed.

Now it's the other way round

i remember him saying "a lot of celebrities are turning to me for advice" when the Jimmy Saville story broke.

Mine was a post poking fun at the pure ridiculousness of the situation, mantis however is awful and should be shot...

I think both are in pretty bad taste. Being removed

They all deserve to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.

That doesn't change the fact that I'm going to miss SH's football reports or the fact that I thought Clifford was an odious snake prior to hearing this news.

Will I get my £5 back?

Innocent until proven guilty, thus naming any on arrest is extremely problematic isn't it?

Can be extremely prejudicial on the case as well, so isn't helpful for the victims either.

Is it prejudicial to determine there are victims ?

There are now in excess of 600 people claiming to have been abused by Jimmy Saville in the 70's and 80's. It seems all forms of media including blondepoker are taking that very seriously and giving it absolute credibility. Sorry, but it is a joke to me and I'm sick of hearing about celebrity child abuse morning noon and night. I think 600 people waiting 40yrs to come forward is more of a handicap to resolving child abuse issues than my joke was but there you go.

That's what the jury often has to decide. As do the police beforehand and the CPS or whatever they're called now.

@Mantis, adult rape victims can be reluctant to come forward and report the crimes for fear of not being believed. Can only try to imagine what it's like to be abused as a child and not be able to tell anyone for whatever reason. Many probably thought that they'd never tell their story and as they got older had to live with the thought that it would be believed less as time goes on and so they'd somehow have to keep silent.

I think everything to do with the name of the people arrested should be kept private, until guilty. Its a fuking disgrace to imo, no justice if people are exposed for just being questioned.

Agree. But 600 people all too scared to speak before? And all the adults that witnessed it?

I think I agree. It's almost a certainty that some poor innocent bloke will have his life ruined.

Who was it that said 'It's better that 10 guilty men go free than one innocent man be wrongly convicted'?

I have to admit that I thought Ace2M's post was a bit OTT because it invited people to speculate on a public forum about who might be guilty of child abuse, and I can also see what a tough spot it was for Tighty.

I don't know if all 600 are valid cases, but if the number is 60, 600 or 6,000  the police have an obligation to follow it up.  The UK has no statute of limitations on sex crimes - whereas other countries do.  It's obviously open to debate which one is 'right' or 'better'.

Noel Edmonds the latest to be arrested ...... apparently hes trying to plea bargain but the police said no deal.

Actually made me lol.

ive heard his defence will be they were all asking to see his crinkley bottom

Awful. was trying to think of something along the same lines.. Noel has been placed on House Party Arrest.

I think the problem today is when society broach certain subjects like child abuse and racism people lose their minds and turn to jelly. So when 600 people make claims anybody who doesn't believe them is branded insensitive and distasteful. All I see these days are agencies encouraging people to make claims for accidents or ppi or whatever. We live in a society where making claims is a way of life. So my joke poked fun at this aspect of modern society.

You can see what I mean because that joke was removed as it was loosely associated with child abuse and therefore unacceptable. I understand what a serious issue child abuse is and feel that is much different from joking about people's over zealous desire to make claims for anything and everything.

There are now a few jokes in this thread.

Well I thought this thread was about Herbie cashing at DTD.

I don't think MANTIS wrong on this issue. For sure child abuse is a very serious matter but c'mon if 600 people come out of the woodwork I'd gladly bet that there are a fair few which aren't genuine.

Somebody I know went through this type of allegation. Accused by an ex-mistress of abuse and rape just because my friend wouldn't leave his wife for her. 6 months went on before the police came to their senses and sided with him. Luckily, although he was arrested no charges were ever made and no press got to publish his name.

It all ended well for him as his wife forgave him and his name not tarnished. If his name was made public then I dare say he would have lost everything; wife, family, businesses. Now that would have been the real crime.

The abuse pool post was def wrong. Although, my money was on Rod Hull.

Cant see how the police hope to gain any convictions 40 years after the fact what evidence can possibly survive other than word against word... must be frustrating for them wasting their time and a vast amount of money in what amounts to a PR project to show they are taking the thing seriously....

Rolf !!!!!!

I mean ROFL

While others lose it Mantis emerges as a beacon of cool

So are you saying that you don't believe that Savile abused anyone or that you don't believe that 600 claims against him could all be genuine?

If the latter then I suspect you're right, and the investigation will presumably uncover this, or at least determine that there's insufficient evidence on a number of them.

But even if 95% of them prove to be unfounded that still means c30 people all independently stayed silent over this length of time, which raises many questions and can't easily  be attributed to the weaknesses of the individuals themselves.

also isn't it 600 lines of enquiry? rather than 600 people?

and the enquiry is split into allegations against Saville, allegations against people that relate to the Saville case and allegations unrelated to his case but which were prompted by the publicity meaning people took the opportunity to speak up.

It's true that there are probably a number of lines which will come to nothing - but they can't tell which one's they are without investigating them and the alternative is to ignore the victims; which is pretty much what happened on several occasions in the past - which is why there seems to be such a high concentration now.

emu already has a claim in.
Knookie bear has eyes like that for a reason.

Sigh

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4708101/child-sex-abuse-cops-fred-talbot.html

fs and another one here...

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/lostprophets-express-shock-at-bandmate-ian-watkins-arrest-on-child-sex-charges-8427378.html

this one is a bit different in as far as it being pretty recent. With abuse being so rife god knows how this stayed covered up all these years.

..and another:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21468687


Met him years ago, but I was about 15 so a bit old for him.  All I remember about him was that he was very dull and very short.

Pretty sure he played a leg or 2 of the GUKPT a few years ago

He did, he played a few telly poker shows too.

Even besides all of this, I'm sure Sally will take him back, she always does.

pmsl Barry. Too funny.