Title: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: snoopy1239 on December 08, 2012, 10:57:12 AM Does this seem OTT to anyone else or have I missed something?
It's not like the nurse revealed secret CIA information. And surely it's a bit harsh to blame the DJs for the suicide of the nurse who merely passed the phone over - could they really have been the trigger? I understand that the 'palace' didn't even issue a complaint, and that the hospital had been fully behind the nurses. I actually feel a bit sorry for the DJs now; seems like bandwagon-jumping. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: kukushkin88 on December 08, 2012, 10:59:28 AM Does this seem OTT to anyone else or have I missed something? It's not like the nurse revealed secret CIA information. And surely it's a bit harsh to blame the DJs for the suicide of the nurse who merely passed the phone over - could they really have been the trigger? I understand that the 'palace' didn't even issue a complaint, and that the hospital had been fully behind the nurses. I actually feel a bit sorry for the DJs now; seems like bandwagon-jumping. Agree with all of this, tragic for everyone involved but no need for the DJ´s to be overly villified. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: snoopy1239 on December 08, 2012, 11:04:48 AM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window.
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: kinboshi on December 08, 2012, 11:12:53 AM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: Doobs on December 08, 2012, 11:27:41 AM Does this seem OTT to anyone else or have I missed something? It's not like the nurse revealed secret CIA information. And surely it's a bit harsh to blame the DJs for the suicide of the nurse who merely passed the phone over - could they really have been the trigger? I understand that the 'palace' didn't even issue a complaint, and that the hospital had been fully behind the nurses. I actually feel a bit sorry for the DJs now; seems like bandwagon-jumping. Well it seems almost certain they were the trigger, but it is very unlikely they were the underlying cause, if that makes sense. It must be fairly unpleasant to find yourself held up to ridicule worldwide for a simple mistake. The whole thing is pretty depressing and I feel sympathy for all the parties involved. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: DaveShoelace on December 08, 2012, 11:50:29 AM Makes me wonder if you can ever blame someone else if someone commits suicide. All of us have done things which upset other people, you never know when someone will be emotionally fragile enough to take their own life. This was a high profile example.
I don't think anyone can blame the two Aussies for the ultimate outcome, however I will say that breaching security, privacy and ridiculing someone for 'entertainment' is pretty irresponsible, hopefully this will put other entertainers off doing cheap pointless stunts like this in the future. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: chelseaboy on December 08, 2012, 11:57:22 AM You cant blame the DJ's they were just having a laugh, its not like Kate was on her death bed or like said before not like the nurse gave out top secret information.
If the nurse hadnt committed suicide everyone would have been talking about in a laughing manor, seems as if now she is dead everyone is jumping on the band wagon and blaming the dj's. All seems a bit strange to me, apparently the hospital hadnt disciplined her or anything so does seem a bit strange that she would commit suicide. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 08, 2012, 12:18:34 PM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. Ban! Racist Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: snoopy1239 on December 08, 2012, 12:41:43 PM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. Ban! Racist He's just calling a spade a spade, that's all. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 08, 2012, 12:52:40 PM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. Ban! Racist He's just calling a spade a spade, that's all. But 2 Wongs don't make a white. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: outragous76 on December 08, 2012, 01:03:03 PM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. Ban! Racist He's just calling a spade a spade, that's all. But 2 Wongs don't make a white. I'm laughing heartily whilst my brain is trying to unscramble whether that is racist or just funny Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: chelseaboy on December 08, 2012, 02:35:22 PM Careful, don't want the jack of diamonds getting a brick through his window. It's always the bloody jack of diamonds though, usually with his mate the jack of spades. This is funny!! Ban! Racist He's just calling a spade a spade, that's all. But 2 Wongs don't make a white. I'm laughing heartily whilst my brain is trying to unscramble whether that is racist or just funny Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 08, 2012, 05:17:04 PM Could be the DoE bringing his special chums out of a 15 year retirement..
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 05:25:25 PM One of my mates- massive conspiracy theorist thinks she was knocked off by the Royal family cos she knew too much!
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: aaron1867 on December 08, 2012, 05:26:00 PM You forget to mention was there any need for DJ's to create the prank? It was after all, just a bit of morning sickness.
I'm sorry if you don't agree here, but I don't listen to Radio to hear presenters making pointless pranks, I listen for music, news and for discussion. Prank should have never happened and both radio and presenters are partly to blame for this sad loss of life. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 08, 2012, 05:28:44 PM One of my mates- massive conspiracy theorist thinks she was knocked off by the Royal family cos she knew too much! So can we expect the Dj's and all their Australian listeners to be dispensed with too? Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: George2Loose on December 08, 2012, 06:03:28 PM One of my mates- massive conspiracy theorist thinks she was knocked off by the Royal family cos she knew too much! So can we expect the Dj's and all their Australian listeners to be dispensed with too? Might already be happening. I'm regretting posting the above. They may come after me Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 08, 2012, 06:20:36 PM One of my mates- massive conspiracy theorist thinks she was knocked off by the Royal family cos she knew too much! So can we expect the Dj's and all their Australian listeners to be dispensed with too? Might already be happening. I'm regretting posting the above. They may come after me Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they're not after you. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: MintTrav on December 08, 2012, 06:42:35 PM It's just another stunt that TV and radio stations pull from time to time. Mindless and not funny, but you can't anticipate someone topping themselves as a result. Although it was probably unavoidable, the vilification of the idiots at the radio station is unjustified. In a way, the populist media who sustain it are pandering to the lowest common denominator as much as the populist entertainers who made the call.
I'm pretty unconvinced, though, by the hospital's eagerness to get out that they had been 'supporting' the staff involved since the call. Presumably they had to revise or reinforce procedures pretty sharply and get the message across. Following the ease with which the previous procedures were overcome, that message may have been reinforced fairly robustly. We don't know the nature of the formal and informal reactions the nurse encountered at the hospital, but she would certainly have had concerns about the perception of her by other staff and the hospital, possibly including real or imagined fears of disciplinary outcomes. Of course, we don't know (yet) what happened at the hospital in the day or two after the incident, but it is possible that people are looking in the wrong direction for the source of her distress. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: snoopy1239 on December 08, 2012, 06:52:06 PM It's silly. Lots of entertainment forms do pranks. Noel's House Party, Beadle's About, Fonejacker, etc. I don't think these two are the first.
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: kukushkin88 on December 08, 2012, 06:59:47 PM It's silly. Lots of entertainment forms do pranks. Noel's House Party, Beadle's About, Fonejacker, etc. I don't think these two are the first. I think everyone apart from Aaron has pretty much agreed with this. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: Acidmouse on December 08, 2012, 07:21:44 PM But this is not a prank is it. Anyone knows you don't want to say anything about being preggy early on. Very very few people decide to make it public before 12 weeks as its a minefield for problems, add this the fact you have acute morning sickness it can be serious and if not treated correctly misscarrages happen. Given the fact that they were forced to admit early pregnancy and she was ill, what sick fuk thinks its clever to extract the exact illness and condition of the pair of them? what if they had said it was more serious that first thought and the baby was at danger? what would have been the reaction then?
I know its a slight overreaction and not much further then camping outside the hopstial 24/7 like alot of the TV crews but blimey enough is enough. As Ian Thorpe twitted, people have to think about the consequences of what they do...and if it turns shit they have to man up and take the responsibility. Pranks in the norm dont get sensitive medical information from vunerable patients. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: AndrewT on December 08, 2012, 07:30:31 PM MintTrav's point is a good one, and not one I've seen much talked about in the coverage of this. The hospital said they'd been very supportive of her and she was under no disciplinary proceedings but is it likely that someone who had full and obvious support from her employer and work colleagues goes home and kills herself?
To me, it's really unlikely that someone who makes a very public screw-up like she did, especially in a situation concerning the Royal family, does not get an almighty bollocking at work. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: outragous76 on December 08, 2012, 07:33:26 PM Anyone who kills themselves due to a telling off at work has deep seated issues. If it wasn't this it would have been something next week/month
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: gouty on December 08, 2012, 08:00:06 PM It's the hospitals fault. She was not trained in correct protocol and there should of been a senior manager there 24 hours to filter these mindless tossers away from staff.
I hope they feel like shit and lose their careers the Jd s (lol). No one ever learns. Noel Edmonds stopped the pranks pretty quick after the poor bloke died in a rehearsal. Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand is another example with Andrew Sachs. And our media call it a "cruel and vicious stunt" and then park 40 people on the the front door of the poor woman who took the call! Leveson my arse. Everyone is out to make a buck but social media is kicking arse. I do love the Max Clifford and Starbucks shit though. What goes around comes around. Especially a big shitty stick. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: action man on December 09, 2012, 01:38:31 PM I had decided that the OP's stance is the only one that a thinking person can have and this thread has confirmed this.
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: kinboshi on December 09, 2012, 02:03:31 PM The prank wasn't a big issue really, and would have been quickly forgotten about. But the press made it into a massive story. They're the ones that propelled it into a 'major' story giving it front-page coverage and keeping it in the spotlight. The role of the tabloids in this shouldn't be overlooked.
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: celtic on December 09, 2012, 02:11:17 PM I blame God. He makes all the babies in the world.
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 09, 2012, 02:13:04 PM I blame God. He makes all the babies in the world. I blame celtic. He's Scottish you know. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: Woodsey on December 09, 2012, 05:38:04 PM Some people take their work really seriously and it is their entire life. Is it really that hard to understand that someone with depression etc can't be pushed over the edge by being publicly humiliated like this?
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: Acidmouse on December 09, 2012, 06:04:29 PM Some people take their work really seriously and it is their entire life. Is it really that hard to understand that someone with depression etc can't be pushed over the edge by being publicly humiliated like this? Apparently thinking considerately about the person would be a minority opinion on here. People let this comment slide below without a blink. "Anyone who kills themselves due to a telling off at work has deep seated issues. If it wasn't this it would have been something next week/month" That statement in the context of the situation makes me shake my head....pretty much a typical throwaway comment with zero substance..Its almost making out its her fault for being fragile or not being able to handle a situation that would put anyone under pressure. So wrong on so many levels. It was just not a telling off at work was it? so tilted.. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: celtic on December 09, 2012, 06:55:01 PM I don't really understand, the nurse that committed suicide wasn't the one that gave the info out. How would she have got into trouble?
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: The Camel on December 22, 2012, 11:56:55 PM Least surprising news story of the year:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: redarmi on December 23, 2012, 12:02:21 AM Least surprising news story of the year: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Finding out you read the Daily Mail however would be one of the more surprising news stories of the year. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: The Camel on December 23, 2012, 12:06:44 AM Least surprising news story of the year: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Finding out you read the Daily Mail however would be one of the more surprising news stories of the year. Ha. Was pointed there by a friend. Obv! Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: gouty on December 23, 2012, 01:11:56 AM Least surprising news story of the year: Camel owns it again.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252290/Royal-nurse-answered-hoax-Duchess-Cambridge-attempted-kill-twice-before.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Just an amazingly sad story. Underlying issues involving all of UK citizens shortcomings too. I get the feeling Cameron will fall on his sword of "We are all in this together" speech. Whether financially or patriotically intended. Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: MANTIS01 on December 23, 2012, 07:11:33 AM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands
Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: leethefish on December 23, 2012, 07:35:19 AM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: bobAlike on December 23, 2012, 12:06:25 PM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday I always thought there was something special about you Lee. ;) Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: leethefish on December 23, 2012, 04:14:59 PM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday I always thought there was something special about you Lee. ;) Thanks mate (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/happy-dance-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/happy.dance-emoticon-2109.html) Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: david3103 on December 23, 2012, 05:27:08 PM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday You share that day with Mr Ulliott - who shares a nicksurname with you Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: leethefish on December 23, 2012, 05:35:47 PM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday You share that day with Mr Ulliott - who shares a nicksurname with you Wow I never knew devilish was also a fool! Title: Re: Kate/William Hoax Call Post by: david3103 on December 23, 2012, 05:43:33 PM In all seriousness I think it would be a good idea to cancel April Fools Day next year as we could have a whole spate of suicides on our hands Can't cancel April fools day ....it's my birthday You share that day with Mr Ulliott - who shares a nicksurname with you Wow I never knew devilish was also a fool! Indeed he is - I was close, but made it just in time to have a March birthday. Devilfish was born the day after me in 19 |