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Title: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 14, 2013, 12:23:52 AM Lookin to sell percentages for this using a auction prob gonna sell 50-60 percent. I am staked by a single backer for comps to max of 500 and will talk to him about this tmw so I'm gonna say now that I'm reserving him 10 per cent minimum at the minute so 50 per cent available for now.
Never used auction before but just took it from other pals ideas as looks best way to sell on here. EPT/UK & Ireland Poker Tue 5 - Sun 10 Mar at 12.00 pm £ 700 + 70 No Limit Hold'em - UKIPT Wed 6 Mar at 12.00 pm £ 700 + 70 UKIPT Event - Day 1B Thu 7 Mar at 12.00 pm £ 700 + 70 UKIPT Event - Day 1C http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=77581 Hendon mob above for anyone that doesn't know me. Cheers any questions just ask Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 14, 2013, 12:43:04 AM I'm not sure an auction is good for this particular stake.
But I'll have a go with 5% @ 1.03 Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 14, 2013, 12:47:51 AM Never used auction before was just gonna try it out see what happens...could u give ur reasons please just want to get feedback so I know for future stakes etc cheers Aaron
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 14, 2013, 12:51:19 AM I am sure someone else will explain it better than me, so I will leave it to them.
I would probably be of the opinion that auctions are for bigger/multi events, etc. Offer still stands though, will monitor thread. glglglgl Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 14, 2013, 01:09:23 AM Ok cheers Aaron will keep checking bk to see wat other responses I get on this topic of auction
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 14, 2013, 11:06:51 PM So if anyone that has more experience with auctions could tell me what they think ? Maybe add few more comps so it becomes a package or just sell this one without using auction ? Cheers
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Cf on February 15, 2013, 01:08:37 PM 45% at 0.1.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: pleno1 on February 15, 2013, 01:12:31 PM I am sure someone else will explain it better than me, so I will leave it to them. I would probably be of the opinion that auctions are for bigger/multi events, etc. Offer still stands though, will monitor thread. glglglgl makes absolutely no difference. its just an investment opportunity. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Doobs on February 15, 2013, 01:21:31 PM Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 15, 2013, 02:44:50 PM 5% at 1.05
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: paulhouk03 on February 15, 2013, 07:46:11 PM Lol com
I wouldn't use an auction if you don't understand how they work Also spend time on a good proposal Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 17, 2013, 05:11:50 AM Lol com I wouldn't use an auction if you don't understand how they work Also spend time on a good proposal I understand how they work from seeing other pols obv Paul but was just sayin never used them so wanted to give it a shot and see how it worked for me as I am backed upto 500 pound comps on a 75-25 split with no make up so wanted to try do this so I could keep more than 25 per cent of my self Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Killerkilsby on February 17, 2013, 10:16:27 AM Can you please let us know when the auction closes?
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: NigDawG on February 17, 2013, 01:58:41 PM Lol com I wouldn't use an auction if you don't understand how they work Also spend time on a good proposal I understand how they work from seeing other pols obv Paul but was just sayin never used them so wanted to give it a shot and see how it worked for me as I am backed upto 500 pound comps on a 75-25 split with no make up so wanted to try do this so I could keep more than 25 per cent of my self 25/75 no make up is way better for you than selling Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 17, 2013, 05:05:19 PM Will end on 28th feb.....like I said before chris just tryin this to keep a bit more than 25 per cent for myself
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Royal Flush on February 18, 2013, 08:20:33 AM 45% @0.15
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 08:28:25 AM 45% @0.15 just to confirm that's all 3 bullets yes.Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 05:09:59 PM A lot of ppls comments on this thread r pretty stupid to be honest don't actually think there is a need for the trolling ballshit..
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 05:41:13 PM A lot of ppls comments on this thread r pretty stupid to be honest don't actually think there is a need for the trolling ballshit.. Sorry if u think im trolling But I do find this thread funny Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2013, 05:46:29 PM Apologies if you think I'm speaking out of turn, but maybe start a new thread with a well structured proposal and see how it goes from there?
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 05:51:01 PM Summary of bids so far:
The Camel - 5% at 1.05 CF - 5% at 1.03 Flushy - remaining 40% at 0.15 Jason, you forgot to put in a time that the auction ends - when is that? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 05:59:35 PM Summary of bids so far: cf bid must be wrong?The Camel - 5% at 1.05 CF - 5% at 1.03 Flushy - remaining 40% at 0.15 Jason, you forgot to put in a time that the auction ends - when is that? Yeah sorry too. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 06:01:29 PM Summary of bids so far: The Camel - 5% at 1.05 CF - 5% at 1.03 Flushy - remaining 40% at 0.15 Jason, you forgot to put in a time that the auction ends - when is that? 28th if u read back about 5 posts!!! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 06:06:02 PM Summary of bids so far: The Camel - 5% at 1.05 CF - 5% at 1.03 Flushy - remaining 40% at 0.15 Jason, you forgot to put in a time that the auction ends - when is that? 28th if u read back about 5 posts!!! Good stuff - probs best if you update OP so it's all in one place. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: GreekStein on February 18, 2013, 06:07:46 PM Do people still call you westlife?
what % of blonde posters would you say you are cooler than? Do you think it's more stupid to eat a doughnut stuffed with kiwi or drink milk with a moderate amount of curry powder in it? Do you still have that cool Disney hoody? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 06:09:25 PM I'm going to withhdraw my offer, don't think there is enough info in thread, sorry.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 06:11:00 PM Summary of bids so far: cf bid must be wrong?The Camel - 5% at 1.05 CF - 5% at 1.03 Flushy - remaining 40% at 0.15 Jason, you forgot to put in a time that the auction ends - when is that? Yeah sorry too. Yeah - I meant Aaron, not CF. This is why I don't do auction threads - they're hella complicated. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 06:11:55 PM I'm going to withhdraw my offer, don't think there is enough info in thread, sorry. But there's more info now than there was when you bid. Albeit most of it is incorrect, thanks to me. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 06:12:57 PM I'm going to withhdraw my offer, don't think there is enough info in thread, sorry. But there's more info now than there was when you bid. Albeit most of it is incorrect, thanks to me. Great thread Dewi :)up Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 06:14:36 PM I can't get my head round 3 bullets.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 06:15:15 PM I can't get my head round 3 bullets. Is that a Marcus quote? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 06:15:27 PM I can't get my head round 3 bullets. This isn't the Oscar Pistorius joke thread, Jason. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 06:22:26 PM 0.15 seems generous
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: scotty77 on February 18, 2013, 06:38:32 PM When you are asking for other peoples money, my advice would be drop the attitude. It may not be your intention, and is easy to do online, but the way you write sometimes comes across as a bit aggro. Even when people may post negative comments, you still need to act professional.
No offence intended here, but auctions are probably more suited to players who are gonna likely be in high demand for action/have a long track record on blonde. Alex/Brammer/Keys/Camel could easily use this format and get tonnes of bids because of their reputation in the community. My advice would have been to go for a standard thread for this kind of stake at a mark up that you felt right. Tonnes of people on here love a sweat, but they don't like having to wait to find out if they have the big in place. They like to secure the piece and ship the money and forget about it. Also I remember talking to you about your deal in person and you said it wasn't that great. A 75/25 with no make up is pretty incred IMO and should be treated as such. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 06:46:42 PM Thanks for your comments Ryan just same old ppl trolling on here is kinda annoying rather than them taking the piss out of me they could just explain there thoughts just like u have and I appreciate u taking time to write this......but if ppl have bad words to say about me or my poker ability maybe they should say things straight up rather than take ridiculous digs. I have no attitude as u know me in person whereas many of these ppl don't .
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: scotty77 on February 18, 2013, 06:51:57 PM The old 10pc at 0.1 joke is something that I've seen on all kinds of staking threads on blonde tbh so I wouldn't worry too much about that.
I know that online its very easy to type stuff quite innocently that comes across wrong, done it dozens of times myself. Now whenever I post something, especially when its something I don't agree with/am wound up by, I always take a couple of minutes before I hit submit just to re-read everything a couple of times. It really helps you think clearer. Good luck and prob see you at the Vic during GUKPT week? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 06:56:43 PM Thanks for your comments Ryan just same old ppl trolling on here is kinda annoying rather than them taking the piss out of me they could just explain there thoughts just like u have and I appreciate u taking time to write this......but if ppl have bad words to say about me or my poker ability maybe they should say things straight up rather than take ridiculous digs. I have no attitude as u know me in person whereas many of these ppl don't . ok kewl ridic attitude.... VIOLENTLY SHIT THREAD. I mean fuck me it's so awful I have kept checking back FOR THE COMEDY. Who are you, why do you want staking, why are you worth staking especially at a markup that people are going to be bidding on... WHAT IS AN AUCTION, you seem to have no clue. How is the auction working, when does it end, how will people pay. Who can vouch for you. You have an absolutely ridic backing deal yet don't know it's ridic, so obv are prob massive expectation hence everyones clammering to bid up the price. You should have got some of your 'pals' to set up the thread for you this is utterly awful. I'm utterly surprised at any >1.0 bids, I am assuming those people know you in real life and have dealt with you before so haven't got all the obvious questions like who the fk is this punter. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 06:58:45 PM in before lock
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 07:01:24 PM in before lock he asked someone to post it, rather than everyone reply thinking it but just not saying it. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:02:50 PM Yeah see u at the vic Ryan gl aswell and ty
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:06:48 PM Thanks for your comments Ryan just same old ppl trolling on here is kinda annoying rather than them taking the piss out of me they could just explain there thoughts just like u have and I appreciate u taking time to write this......but if ppl have bad words to say about me or my poker ability maybe they should say things straight up rather than take ridiculous digs. I have no attitude as u know me in person whereas many of these ppl don't . ok kewl ridic attitude.... VIOLENTLY SHIT THREAD. I mean fuck me it's so awful I have kept checking back FOR THE COMEDY. Who are you, why do you want staking, why are you worth staking especially at a markup that people are going to be bidding on... WHAT IS AN AUCTION, you seem to have no clue. How is the auction working, when does it end, how will people pay. Who can vouch for you. You have an absolutely ridic backing deal yet don't know it's ridic, so obv are prob massive expectation hence everyones clammering to bid up the price. You should have got some of your 'pals' to set up the thread for you this is utterly awful. I'm utterly surprised at any >1.0 bids, I am assuming those people know you in real life and have dealt with you before so haven't got all the obvious questions like who the fk is this punter. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:13:02 PM You are asking for £2100+reg from the good people of blonde. Its a lot of dough and needs an op to reflect the seriousness of the proposal.
Fuck my backer who is a mug I want more than 25% You are asking for more money than most of your lifetime cashes. You need to at least use a bit of Vaseline to ensure that we enjoy the experience too Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 07:16:58 PM You are asking for £2100+reg from the good people of blonde. Its a lot of dough and needs an op to reflect the seriousness of the proposal. Fuck my backer who is a mug I want more than 25% You are asking for more money than most of your lifetime cashes. You need to at least use a bit of Vaseline to ensure that we enjoy the experience too It is more than £2100, he wanted a decent mark up here, that is why he auctioned it, so would have been been £2800 with a 'regular' mark-up. Some people have been a bit harsh, but should have handled better, imo. Auction should have never been proposed and should have sold at no mark up, imo. I am also unsure how it works, because is it RE? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: TightEnd on February 18, 2013, 07:17:15 PM Jason
My twopenneth (and I know you) An auction is not necessarily the best way to sell on blonde as your OP says. It certainly needs a heftier proposal than yours is, with figures nailed down and an awareness way beyond yours is of what the process involves and how much transparency is needed All that info is readily available on blonde staking proposals with a bit of research, and then ask the questions privately before having to conduct this educational process in public, while you are asking people for staking. If everyone could debate reasonably, advise sensibly and not flame, call people out etc that would be great, ty. That includes you Mr Clarke! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: mondatoo on February 18, 2013, 07:18:28 PM Think it pisses a few ppl off that on multiple occassions you've put up staking threads were you've seemed to put very little effort into your op.
For instance this thread, your op is missing so much std info, you said you don't rly know how auctions work, why you would then create one I've no idea but as you still have surely you could've took the time to check and copy Keys' template that he put up in great detail, I'm pretty certain you didn't even look at it. Yes auctions are a little complicated but you've done this in the past with much easier staking templates that are a lot easier to copy. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:26:03 PM You are asking for £2100+reg from the good people of blonde. Its a lot of dough and needs an op to reflect the seriousness of the proposal. Fuck my backer who is a mug I want more than 25% You are asking for more money than most of your lifetime cashes. You need to at least use a bit of Vaseline to ensure that we enjoy the experience too It is more than £2100, he wanted a decent mark up here, that is why he auctioned it, so would have been been £2800 with a 'regular' mark-up. Some people have been a bit harsh, but should have handled better, imo. Auction should have never been proposed and should have sold at no mark up, imo. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:27:59 PM Yes it may have pissed ppl off but there's no need for them to be rude about it ??? Like I said I listen to everything everyone has said that is a blatant piss take !!! I said I'd like to do a auction and see how it goes I'm not begging ppl to stake me like some of u r making out like I said I have a deal but wanted to keep 40 per cent of myself with my backer this is not possible as he puts the full money up and I get 25 per cent. To be honest with the amount of posts and backing I've already had here I didn't think I'd need to write out the same info as I did in previous posts cos thought most of u knew who I was etc.....never mind anyway.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: scotty77 on February 18, 2013, 07:28:23 PM Pretty certain that UKIPTs aren't re-entry, so it would have been for 1BI, and the 3BIs in the OP is just a confirmation of the starting days pasted from Hendon Mob.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:30:32 PM You are asking for £2100+reg from the good people of blonde. Its a lot of dough and needs an op to reflect the seriousness of the proposal. Fuck my backer who is a mug I want more than 25% You are asking for more money than most of your lifetime cashes. You need to at least use a bit of Vaseline to ensure that we enjoy the experience too Mmmmmeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh how is it 2100.....the buy in is 770 learn to read jase Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 07:32:40 PM You are asking for £2100+reg from the good people of blonde. Its a lot of dough and needs an op to reflect the seriousness of the proposal. Fuck my backer who is a mug I want more than 25% You are asking for more money than most of your lifetime cashes. You need to at least use a bit of Vaseline to ensure that we enjoy the experience too Mmmmmeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh how is it 2100.....the buy in is 770 learn to read jase You have just accused people of being rude a few seconds ago.... From your opening post it makes it seem like three entries, I have never seen anything like that. Even I assumed for a little while it was 3 entries and wondered wtf?! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:34:42 PM Also I never actually asked for a mark up did I ? So ppl could of bidder at 1.0 and got a per centage as I said I wanted to keep 40 per cent meaning I'd be more than happy to put 40 per cent up myself just to clear all that up aswell never once called my backer a mug either......maybe u should have a bit more respect also
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 07:37:26 PM Why not just sell at 1.0 then? ffs
auctions are there for marks ups!!!!! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:38:48 PM Looks like 3 entries required.
Get tighty to delete the thread and start again. You will get the stake with a bit of mark up no problem Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 07:39:21 PM Yes it may have pissed ppl off but there's no need for them to be rude about it ??? Like I said I listen to everything everyone has said that is a blatant piss take !!! I said I'd like to do a auction and see how it goes I'm not begging ppl to stake me like some of u r making out like I said I have a deal but wanted to keep 40 per cent of myself with my backer this is not possible as he puts the full money up and I get 25 per cent. To be honest with the amount of posts and backing I've already had here I didn't think I'd need to write out the same info as I did in previous posts cos thought most of u knew who I was etc.....never mind anyway. lucky you provided all the links then isn't it. You can have 40% of yourself IF YOU PAY 40%. as it is you don't seem to realise the awesomeness of your current deal. your proposal is atrocious. you have no clue what you're doing, auctions are created to get the MAXIMUM markup, why do an auction otherwise. you posted you want more than 25%, you posted for an auction, at no point do you say you'll be putting anything up let alone 40%. you have posted more information about this stake in random one liners in response to criticism than you have done in any of your previous staking posts. This isn't a staking proposal, it's like you've condensed it down to fit on a post it note. Reread then delete the thread, then start another thread, forget auctions, post a full proposal and see what happens. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: TightEnd on February 18, 2013, 07:40:16 PM Also I never actually asked for a mark up did I ? So ppl could of bidder at 1.0 and got a per centage as I said I wanted to keep 40 per cent meaning I'd be more than happy to put 40 per cent up myself just to clear all that up aswell never once called my backer a mug either......maybe u should have a bit more respect also Jason, please cut out the attitude. No one is going to treat you with respect if you are short with them You are the one asking for staking, they are potential customers........ Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:41:27 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: aaron1867 on February 18, 2013, 07:42:45 PM I've never known this much nonsense since some Scunny bloke didn't believe a Chinese bloke that he had those aces
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 07:43:04 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:44:54 PM I've never known this much nonsense since some Scunny bloke didn't believe a Chinese bloke that he had those aces lolI thought you might have wanked it into me about the gimp mask Aaron Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:48:13 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also.....
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:51:27 PM Tightly if u want to delete it to stop all the stupid squabbles then pls do.....
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:52:04 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... why always me? :)Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 07:53:29 PM Cos I feel u started the trolling jase other than that u have also done it in my other threads....why ? . No wonder u get banned
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: TightEnd on February 18, 2013, 07:55:25 PM Tightly if u want to delete it to stop all the stupid squabbles then pls do..... not really I'd recommend starting again with a properly detailed proposal, listening to the feedback you've got, if you want to carry on and keep it business-like. treat it like a professional proposal and see the difference Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:56:31 PM Look I am sorry but you are mugging people off. What happened to your blog!
You have to be more professional on your op. Its a joke and comes across badly Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 07:59:19 PM Look anyone can get backed on here. Aaro, John black, Pleno and me. A bigger bunch of cockends you will struggle to find.
Just sort out your proposal and you will sell out. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: NigDawG on February 18, 2013, 08:01:42 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... sell your backer £500 of this on your deal (like normal). that equates to 65% of the comp and gives you a 16.25% freeroll. then just pay for the rest yourself giving you 51.25% total for £270. 25/75 no make up is a great deal and you will not sell here or anywhere at a better rate than that. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 08:05:51 PM Sounds a very good idea cheers chris....gl all
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 08:10:22 PM Do I get my 5%?
Will be more than a little miffed if you win it now and I don't get my share that I bid for. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 18, 2013, 08:16:40 PM Camel u can have 5per cent at face value will sort details nearer the time if that's ok with u ? Ty
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 08:17:59 PM Camel u can have 5per cent at face value will sort details nearer the time if that's ok with u ? Ty Thanks. PM me with details when you're ready (and you're 100% sure you're going to play). GL Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: AndrewT on February 18, 2013, 08:28:30 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 08:38:18 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Meh. Let's not be pedants eh? It was a shitty original post, I think we can all agree, but don't take the piss out of the bloke. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 08:58:20 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Meh. Let's not be pedants eh? It was a shitty original post, I think we can all agree, but don't take the piss out of the bloke. We aren't. This is the point, there are tonnes of TandCs related to an auction, and normally the first few posts state them and make everything as clear as possible, if you had this brought to you and were asked to arb on whether the bids stood, the bids themselves would even if the thread itself has no leg to stand on! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 09:00:00 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Meh. Let's not be pedants eh? It was a shitty original post, I think we can all agree, but don't take the piss out of the bloke. We aren't. This is the point, there are tonnes of TandCs related to an auction, and normally the first few posts state them and make everything as clear as possible, if you had this brought to you and were asked to arb on whether the bids stood, the bids themselves would even if the thread itself has no leg to stand on! No poker player is going to sell at < 1.0 is he? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 09:07:43 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Meh. Let's not be pedants eh? It was a shitty original post, I think we can all agree, but don't take the piss out of the bloke. We aren't. This is the point, there are tonnes of TandCs related to an auction, and normally the first few posts state them and make everything as clear as possible, if you had this brought to you and were asked to arb on whether the bids stood, the bids themselves would even if the thread itself has no leg to stand on! No poker player is going to sell at < 1.0 is he? they are if they set up an auction, put no reserve, and get bids sub 1.0............. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: paulhouk03 on February 18, 2013, 09:19:40 PM Pls don't delete this thread
Everything wrong about staking is on this thread If you put some effort into it. It will be fine but you clearly haven't and its been a farce Also I agree with titty you woulda had to accepted the sub 1 bids due to ur laziness Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 09:22:21 PM So someone bids 50% at 0.75. Will you honour that if you honour 1.0 must do, there are no specifics in the opening post. This is the thing Jason (Clarke) - what you've done here is set up an auction with no reserve price, so the current bids should stand. You can't just decide you don't like the bids and call everything off. Meh. Let's not be pedants eh? It was a shitty original post, I think we can all agree, but don't take the piss out of the bloke. We aren't. This is the point, there are tonnes of TandCs related to an auction, and normally the first few posts state them and make everything as clear as possible, if you had this brought to you and were asked to arb on whether the bids stood, the bids themselves would even if the thread itself has no leg to stand on! No poker player is going to sell at < 1.0 is he? they are if they set up an auction, put no reserve, and get bids sub 1.0............. It was a bad OP. He thought he'd give the auction thing a whirl and obv didn't give it enough thought. I'm sure he regrets the post now. But don't rub the fellas nose in it. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 09:25:54 PM Keith, I don't know who this person even is, and I honestly don't care.
I'm just pointing out that it stands because it does. delete the thread and PM people to sort it out is ldo the way to go. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 09:43:11 PM Keith, I don't know who this person even is, and I honestly don't care. I'm just pointing out that it stands because it does. delete the thread and PM people to sort it out is ldo the way to go. I assume the first bid of less than 1.0 was made purely to point out what a crap OP it was. The others were just unnecessary piling on imo. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 09:46:42 PM Mainly my fault and I appologise. Was just me being a twat again.
You are right he did not deserve it and I hope he gets to play Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: MANTIS01 on February 18, 2013, 09:55:43 PM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was.
Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: tikay on February 18, 2013, 09:58:47 PM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was. Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=37373.1860 Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 10:00:17 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post.
Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: MANTIS01 on February 18, 2013, 10:07:04 PM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was. Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=37373.1860 Pretty simple finish after such an creative through ball imo Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 10:07:27 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post. don't worry mate. They can't ignore him again, he's a lock for the calendar.Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 10:09:06 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post. Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. I didn't respond for multiple days because I was being restrained. This post wound me up the second I saw it. It is quite truly a farce. This whole if you don't like it don't buy it is a valid phrase, and I chose not to bid, however when someone comes to a public forum and puts a proposal to take other peoples money to help fund them doing a gamble, they should take all and any feedback on the chin. Obv they and we should also tell Jason he's a pillock. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 10:10:58 PM Calling him a pillock ain't gonna help
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 10:13:00 PM Calling him a pillock ain't gonna help WAIT SHIT AHAHAH I don't know the op if his name is Jason. then awesome. I'M TALKING ABOUT SMASHEDAGAIN REGARDING BEING A PILLOCK Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 10:15:44 PM Don't mock Herbie.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 10:17:19 PM Don't mock Herbie. pls change your avatar it makes me feel physically sick. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: kinboshi on February 18, 2013, 10:19:59 PM Don't mock Herbie. pls change your avatar it makes me feel physically sick. (http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc43/kinboshi/silence_zps7f975939.gif) Must admit, it's making me a bit uneasy. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 10:22:19 PM Thread just keeps on delivering
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: millidonk on February 18, 2013, 10:23:25 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post. Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. I didn't respond for multiple days because I was being restrained. This post wound me up the second I saw it. It is quite truly a farce. This whole if you don't like it don't buy it is a valid phrase, and I chose not to bid, however when someone comes to a public forum and puts a proposal to take other peoples money to help fund them doing a gamble, they should take all and any feedback on the chin. Obv they and we should also tell Jason he's a pillock. Mate, you should think about being a nun being able to show all that restraint. Another thing I'm not a fan of is people asking for stakes but never staking themselves. It's like jeans on a fat lass, you've got gotta give a little. Horrible avatar boshi. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: tikay on February 18, 2013, 10:24:52 PM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was. Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=37373.1860 Pretty simple finish after such an creative through ball imo Yup, just a feeble attempt to pour a little water on the burning fire. I should have known better. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 11:19:24 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post. Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. I didn't respond for multiple days because I was being restrained. This post wound me up the second I saw it. It is quite truly a farce. This whole if you don't like it don't buy it is a valid phrase, and I chose not to bid, however when someone comes to a public forum and puts a proposal to take other peoples money to help fund them doing a gamble, they should take all and any feedback on the chin. Obv they and we should also tell Jason he's a pillock. I agree with most of what you say, but the thing is I think this was caused by carelessness and not thinking. Just cut the geezer a break, I think he'll have learned a lesson from this and his next staking will be a lot more professional. He's had a tougher ride than some grimmers, and I'm 1000/1 I get grimmed on this stake. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 11:23:05 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight.
Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 11:26:40 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. guilty. but if he he got pissed off then went a bit farBack to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2013, 11:27:50 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Can you imagine what a staking request from Sam Trickett, Laurence Houghton or Garry Bush (or Herbie for that matter) would look like? Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 18, 2013, 11:29:11 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Can you imagine what a staking request from Sam Trickett, Laurence Houghton or Garry Bush (or Herbie for that matter) would look like? Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Doobs on February 18, 2013, 11:29:23 PM I am of the don't like don't buy ilk, the reasons for which are pretty much stated verbatim in Monda's post. Lol @ titty tho, defo deserves a nomination for most subtle poster at the next blonde awards. I didn't respond for multiple days because I was being restrained. This post wound me up the second I saw it. It is quite truly a farce. This whole if you don't like it don't buy it is a valid phrase, and I chose not to bid, however when someone comes to a public forum and puts a proposal to take other peoples money to help fund them doing a gamble, they should take all and any feedback on the chin. Obv they and we should also tell Jason he's a pillock. He's had a tougher ride than some grimmers, and I'm 1000/1 I get grimmed on this stake. A tenner at that price. Cheers Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 18, 2013, 11:51:35 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Can you imagine what a staking request from Sam Trickett, Laurence Houghton or Garry Bush (or Herbie for that matter) would look like? Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. I can't imagine what any of those would look like no! I acknowledge that 'proposal structures and grammar' aren't a required part of a winning poker player, but for someone to spend a few minutes to make what they are doing look structured and provide relevant information both gives me more inkling they may have what it takes to have worked to become a winning player and also shows that they are trying and are taking asking for money from other people seriously. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Royal Flush on February 19, 2013, 12:55:39 AM Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. If someone who is computer literate can't produce a 'reasonable' looking proposal on an internet forum then i would quite happily say they are never going to be any good at poker. I am sure this character could manage to put up a decent proposal if he put the effort in, fact is he didn't. So why should anyone consider investing at anything near 1.0? Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: RED-DOG on February 19, 2013, 01:03:28 AM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was. Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=37373.1860 Pretty simple finish after such an creative through ball imo Yup, just a feeble attempt to pour a little water on the burning fire. I should have known better. Those burning fires are the worst kind. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 19, 2013, 01:09:52 AM Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. If someone who is computer literate can't produce a 'reasonable' looking proposal on an internet forum then i would quite happily say they are never going to be any good at poker. I am sure this character could manage to put up a decent proposal if he put the effort in, fact is he didn't. So why should anyone consider investing at anything near 1.0? Just started to look a bit like bullying to me. Hope he gets the lot and I'll post pictures on this thread rubbing fifties on my tities (provided he hasn't grimmed me of course) Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: tikay on February 19, 2013, 07:23:12 AM If you list a product on ebay and it doesn't attract the interest/bids you were hoping for you can end the auction at any time and withdraw the item from sale. You are never committed to sell a product if you no longer wish to in any walk of life. I had to do it once when I realised the photos of my item were too far away for people to judge how great the item actually was. Also whatever happened to the simple 'if you don't like don't buy' mantra that a lot of you guys have trotted out before? http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=37373.1860 Pretty simple finish after such an creative through ball imo Yup, just a feeble attempt to pour a little water on the burning fire. I should have known better. Those burning fires are the worst kind. Correct as always, Tom, though it does not help when folks keep flinging petrol on the fire. We really ought to be able to debate things a little better than this, even if they are contentious matters. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: GreekStein on February 19, 2013, 08:28:57 AM Keith the thing you are missing is it's not even close to the first time he's made a terrible post in the staking forum. He never seems to learn.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 19, 2013, 09:16:15 AM Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. If someone who is computer literate can't produce a 'reasonable' looking proposal on an internet forum then i would quite happily say they are never going to be any good at poker. I am sure this character could manage to put up a decent proposal if he put the effort in, fact is he didn't. So why should anyone consider investing at anything near 1.0? Just started to look a bit like bullying to me. Hope he gets the lot and I'll post pictures on this thread rubbing fifties on my tities (provided he hasn't grimmed me of course) There is loads of love on blonde and getting a stake is very easy if you set out your proposal properly. I can't remember the last time anyone got knocked back asking nicely. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: pleno1 on February 19, 2013, 09:27:06 AM would be willing to bet that if Sam Trickett had 1250 posts on blonde and 5 staking threads he would be able to write up a good proposal.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 19, 2013, 10:43:38 AM would be willing to bet that if Sam Trickett had 1250 posts on blonde and 5 staking threads he would be able to write up a good proposal. must be doing something right. Off the top of my head I can think of 5 backers I the last two years.Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 19, 2013, 11:05:56 AM Keith the thing you are missing is it's not even close to the first time he's made a terrible post in the staking forum. He never seems to learn. Just don't see the point of 4 or 5 people making exactly the same post. Seemed like people were ganging up on him. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: action man on February 19, 2013, 11:40:29 AM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Can you imagine what a staking request from Sam Trickett, Laurence Houghton or Garry Bush (or Herbie for that matter) would look like? Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. oi he's a good mate of mine! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 19, 2013, 01:08:40 PM it's not the first pants proposal from him though hence my delight. Back to herbie being a pillock anyway..... Can you imagine what a staking request from Sam Trickett, Laurence Houghton or Garry Bush (or Herbie for that matter) would look like? Some people are good at da pokerz but not so hot at posting on internet forums. oi he's a good mate of mine! Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: SuuPRlim on February 19, 2013, 01:29:49 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... sell your backer £500 of this on your deal (like normal). that equates to 65% of the comp and gives you a 16.25% freeroll. then just pay for the rest yourself giving you 51.25% total for £270. 25/75 no make up is a great deal and you will not sell here or anywhere at a better rate than that. This. This. This. You are putting up around 30% of the money, and recieving over half the action, with no make-up, that's selling yourself at 1.4 effectively which you would never have got even if you'd have done the auction properly. TBH, and I don't want to sound harsh but the fact that you didn't snap realise this makes me very skeptical... Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 19, 2013, 02:16:58 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... sell your backer £500 of this on your deal (like normal). that equates to 65% of the comp and gives you a 16.25% freeroll. then just pay for the rest yourself giving you 51.25% total for £270. 25/75 no make up is a great deal and you will not sell here or anywhere at a better rate than that. This. This. This. You are putting up around 30% of the money, and recieving over half the action, with no make-up, that's selling yourself at 1.4 effectively which you would never have got even if you'd have done the auction properly. TBH, and I don't want to sound harsh but the fact that you didn't snap realise this makes me very skeptical... exactly lol Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: $muszlesz$ on February 19, 2013, 05:40:56 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... sell your backer £500 of this on your deal (like normal). that equates to 65% of the comp and gives you a 16.25% freeroll. then just pay for the rest yourself giving you 51.25% total for £270. 25/75 no make up is a great deal and you will not sell here or anywhere at a better rate than that. This. This. This. You are putting up around 30% of the money, and recieving over half the action, with no make-up, that's selling yourself at 1.4 effectively which you would never have got even if you'd have done the auction properly. TBH, and I don't want to sound harsh but the fact that you didn't snap realise this makes me very skeptical... Just didn't think of offering my backer this tbh but will be doin it now but saving Keith 5 per cent at face and if my backer doesn't want to go for it I might try sell with a proper proposal instead of a rushed one.....ppl will prob still troll in that anyway so not sure yet Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: smashedagain on February 19, 2013, 06:59:09 PM My attitude is only towards smashedagain as he is bein very rude IMO.....have no other problems with most of the other comments ppl have posted......yes my deal is good I get 25 per cent with no mark up but if u read that's in comps upto 500 like I said in op so I wanted to sell and buy 40 per cent myself like I said also..... sell your backer £500 of this on your deal (like normal). that equates to 65% of the comp and gives you a 16.25% freeroll. then just pay for the rest yourself giving you 51.25% total for £270. 25/75 no make up is a great deal and you will not sell here or anywhere at a better rate than that. This. This. This. You are putting up around 30% of the money, and recieving over half the action, with no make-up, that's selling yourself at 1.4 effectively which you would never have got even if you'd have done the auction properly. TBH, and I don't want to sound harsh but the fact that you didn't snap realise this makes me very skeptical... Just didn't think of offering my backer this tbh but will be doin it now but saving Keith 5 per cent at face and if my backer doesn't want to go for it I might try sell with a proper proposal instead of a rushed one.....ppl will prob still troll in that anyway so not sure yet Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: railtard1 on February 20, 2013, 02:25:23 AM Keith the thing you are missing is it's not even close to the first time he's made a terrible post in the staking forum. He never seems to learn. Just don't see the point of 4 or 5 people making exactly the same post. Seemed like people were ganging up on him. ganging up and (to a certain extent) "bullying" will always be a part of internet forums imo, however unfair it may be. People get the chance to be macho and feel part of something from behind a laptop. On the actual subject at hand, the opening proposal was obviously terrible, to the point i actually thought it was a level / joke thread. It seemed like an after thought, and couldnt of taken more than 10 minutes to do. That being said, people dont have to buy (and probably shouldnt buy) if the proposal is that awful. Also a mod should maybe lock / delete a staking thread if it doesnt meet the correct criteria... maybe with the culprit receiving a 3 strike policy, whereby there banned from putting up staking threads should the proposal not be up to scratch (obviously im not saying this is going to be possible, but its an idea). Alot of the good threads blonde as produced recently have come from issues arriving from staking / staking threads / mark up etc etc. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: relaedgc on February 20, 2013, 04:30:03 AM Quote Hi, My name is Jason Clarke and this is my Hendon Mob: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=77581 I want to play in the upcoming London UKIPT and I am looking to sell around half my action. I don't have any particularly huge scores to my win and I typically stick to playing local competitions around the £50-£100 region; though I generally prefer to play Dealer's Choice cash games. I'm from Milton Keynes, though I play anywhere from Northampton, Luton to card rooms in London. I generally attend most GUKPT/Genting side events as well as playing in the DTD £300/£500 events. Unfortunately, I am not very well practiced in writing out staking proposals but I am the kind of individual that would simply ignore a proposal that didn't appeal to me, rather than destroy it for my own self amusement; it was probably wrong of me to want the same. But, as I was saying, I feel that I have a decent game and I've had some high places/cashes recently in large live MTT's and I am hoping that this will be the time that I finally get the necessary bit of luck to carry me all the way. Thanks for your time. PS. I'm not a grimmer. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: titaniumbean on February 20, 2013, 02:40:22 PM It can't be bullying when people want investment, this isn't PHA.
Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: The Camel on February 20, 2013, 03:23:37 PM I have to withdraw my offer of 5% staking for personal reasons.
I won't be making any more comments on this thread. Title: Re: Ukipt London auction! Post by: Junior Senior on February 23, 2013, 09:59:01 PM Keith the thing you are missing is it's not even close to the first time he's made a terrible post in the staking forum. He never seems to learn. Who called the police?! :-) |