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Title: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 810ofclubs on February 20, 2013, 01:21:15 PM
Going to LA for LAPC 2moro and then SF for shooting stars WPT.

Always wired $ before but its too late now and i've got cash $ here. Its more than 10k so needs to be declared.....

Advice on whether their going to kick up a massive fuss over it?

I was also going to print out the event poster that I was going to play for some sort of verification...

Thanks


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: redsimon on February 20, 2013, 01:34:21 PM
They shouldn't but remember to include the $ value of any £ you take as they got a bit arsey at McCarran  about the £'s I had along with my Dollars.


Good luck!


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: jackinbeat on February 20, 2013, 01:47:24 PM
Didn't simon Trumper used to buy a few rolex's, pawn them there, and buy them back after you bink ;)


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 810ofclubs on February 20, 2013, 01:47:26 PM
Forgot to mention that im flying into LAX and not LV so imagine their not quite as relaxed...


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: JaffaCake on February 20, 2013, 02:01:15 PM
u could always declare it? Never done so but think it only adds an extra 20 mins or so to your journey while u show em the cash and fill in forms as to what you're doing. Give 10k to the bloke next to u on the plane to take through? Take someone solely to carry another 10k? Make sure u have a night out in San Jose, fun town


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: tonytats on February 20, 2013, 02:45:04 PM
Best to declare it plus maybe bank withdrawal slip as proof ,they got me last year with more n nearly took it off me ! I got a dressing down and was told to always declare it ! Or else blah blah blah


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: titaniumbean on February 20, 2013, 02:46:33 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 810ofclubs on February 20, 2013, 02:55:38 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: redsimon on February 20, 2013, 03:02:46 PM
Declare it, print off Hendon Mob page and yba :)


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Karabiner on February 20, 2013, 03:07:49 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

Is that the polar opposite of kid-glove treatment?


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: smashedagain on February 20, 2013, 03:14:25 PM
Declare it and be honest. I got stopped this side with $30k and advised of the limit so just gave $10k to wife & mum each and still got a bollocking and forms to fill in when landed.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: jackinbeat on February 20, 2013, 03:25:21 PM
Bling it up then, only way at such short notice...


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: MLHMLH on February 20, 2013, 06:42:27 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: marcro on February 20, 2013, 06:47:32 PM
Declare it and just tell them that you are holiday and are going to play in some poker tournaments.  Your idea of printing details is not a bad one and may be useful.  You will not get any aggro doing this and it is not worth the risk not to.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Boba Fett on February 20, 2013, 07:07:04 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Cotter1 on February 20, 2013, 08:20:28 PM
Defo declare it. I took $9,999 last year as couldn't be arsed filling the form out.

Got a 30 minute lecture on the way in, which led to a whole host of questions and a visit to the customs guy.

He was sound and didn't really even count it.

The first guy said I'd better be certain I had less than 10k, or they'd take the lot off me.

Was bricking it, and chucked loose change away in case they counted that.

Don't give to your wife either, as it's 10k between you.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: redsimon on February 20, 2013, 08:25:27 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Karabiner on February 20, 2013, 09:13:31 PM
Defo declare it. I took $9,999 last year as couldn't be arsed filling the form out.

Got a 30 minute lecture on the way in, which led to a whole host of questions and a visit to the customs guy.

He was sound and didn't really even count it.

The first guy said I'd better be certain I had less than 10k, or they'd take the lot off me.

Was bricking it, and chucked loose change away in case they counted that.

Don't give to your wife either, as it's 10k between you.

Where exactly did you "chuck the loose change"?

I'm only asking because I once tried the same thing with a 35mm plastic film container full of primo Columbian gold buds, throwing it in a convenient ash-tray when I knew I was about to get searched only to have some smart-arse pick it up behind me and hand it to the customs guys.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: smashedagain on February 20, 2013, 10:06:50 PM
Defo declare it. I took $9,999 last year as couldn't be arsed filling the form out.

Got a 30 minute lecture on the way in, which led to a whole host of questions and a visit to the customs guy.

He was sound and didn't really even count it.

The first guy said I'd better be certain I had less than 10k, or they'd take the lot off me.

Was bricking it, and chucked loose change away in case they counted that.

Don't give to your wife either, as it's 10k between you.

Where exactly did you "chuck the loose change"?

I'm only asking because I once tried the same thing with a 35mm plastic film container full of primo Columbian gold buds, throwing it in a convenient ash-tray when I knew I was about to get searched only to have some smart-arse pick it up behind me and hand it to the customs guys.
lol Ralph you kill me


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Cotter1 on February 20, 2013, 10:41:28 PM
Defo declare it. I took $9,999 last year as couldn't be arsed filling the form out.

Got a 30 minute lecture on the way in, which led to a whole host of questions and a visit to the customs guy.

He was sound and didn't really even count it.

The first guy said I'd better be certain I had less than 10k, or they'd take the lot off me.

Was bricking it, and chucked loose change away in case they counted that.

Don't give to your wife either, as it's 10k between you.

Where exactly did you "chuck the loose change"?

I'm only asking because I once tried the same thing with a 35mm plastic film container full of primo Columbian gold buds, throwing it in a convenient ash-tray when I knew I was about to get searched only to have some smart-arse pick it up behind me and hand it to the customs guys.
That was your mistake. No one uses camera film these days.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: tikay on February 20, 2013, 11:10:00 PM

^^^^

When Ralph was doing that stuff, Camera Film had only just been invented. Truly.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: LB44 on February 20, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
I lived on and off for 6 years in LA... customs at LAX can kinda come across abit arsey... DEFINATLY DEFINATLY bring as much info about how you intend to use the money while your there.... they shouldn't be too hard on you bringing cash into the country, its leaving with more that they would rather you not do.

Print off your Hendon mob page, the tournament details, bank statements and some kind of proof that you are playing these tournaments and not going to buy 20KG of cocaine and you should be fine!

If you get a problem, just give Will Smith a text


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Royal Flush on February 21, 2013, 10:03:44 AM
Toby did you declare when you left Vegas that you had all this cash? If not DO NOT tell them you brought it back from Vegas.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: MLHMLH on February 21, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


If you are leaving the USA with over $10,000 in cash then you definitely have to declare it on the way out of the USA AND when entering the UK.  If you arrive in the USA and declare over $10,000 on entry and tell them that it's cash you left the USA with last year they will check their records to see if you declared it on the way out last year.  If you didn't declare it then they can put you in jail!  


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Simon Galloway on February 21, 2013, 10:52:57 AM
Declare it AINEC.  On the way out and on the way back.

Some sort of documentation as to why you legitimately have it.  HendonMob etc and a bank statement. 

There's no downside to declaring it, it takes a few minutes.  There's lots of downside to not declaring it, and it will take a lot longer than a few minutes.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: smashedagain on February 21, 2013, 02:51:12 PM
Wait a minute saying AINEC. There could be some mileage in this situation if Toby gets banged up for a few weeks. The diaries on blonde are becoming a bit same same and this could be an excellent opportunity.

Also as he walks through telling customs the drugs are up is bum would also provide for an amusing trip report. :)


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Boba Fett on February 21, 2013, 04:16:50 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


If you are leaving the USA with over $10,000 in cash then you definitely have to declare it on the way out of the USA AND when entering the UK.  If you arrive in the USA and declare over $10,000 on entry and tell them that it's cash you left the USA with last year they will check their records to see if you declared it on the way out last year.  If you didn't declare it then they can put you in jail!  

I left with like $32k in cash last summer in my pockets/laptop bag.  Obv it went through the x-ray machines and stuff and nobody said anything.  I wouldve declared it but nobody asked me and I wasnt given the form asking how much I had on the way out so I just figured didnt need to declare on the way out.  I was given one of the forms on the way in.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: redsimon on February 21, 2013, 04:20:58 PM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


If you are leaving the USA with over $10,000 in cash then you definitely have to declare it on the way out of the USA AND when entering the UK.  If you arrive in the USA and declare over $10,000 on entry and tell them that it's cash you left the USA with last year they will check their records to see if you declared it on the way out last year.  If you didn't declare it then they can put you in jail!  

I left with like $32k in cash last summer in my pockets/laptop bag.  Obv it went through the x-ray machines and stuff and nobody said anything.  I wouldve declared it but nobody asked me and I wasnt given the form asking how much I had on the way out so I just figured didnt need to declare on the way out.  I was given one of the forms on the way in.

Security clearance is difference from HM Customs. I understand you fill form in and put it a box as you go through "anything to declare" in UK. Always best to do the legit thing as it s pretty straightforward.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: celtic on February 21, 2013, 07:19:46 PM
Available for cash carrying duties if you need to split it up, Toby. I need 4 hours notice though, to pack and get to the airport. :)



Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: redsimon on February 21, 2013, 07:22:09 PM
Available for cash carrying duties if you need to split it up, Toby. I need 4 hours notice though, to pack and get to the airport. :)



Nirvana did say you carry a few extra pounds, now I get what he meant :)


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: smashedagain on February 21, 2013, 07:23:41 PM
Available for cash carrying duties if you need to split it up, Toby. I need 4 hours notice though, to pack and get to the airport. :)


4 hours? you've only gotta pack your tooth brush and that will be in the same case from last time you went to Vegas


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: celtic on February 22, 2013, 01:17:01 AM
Available for cash carrying duties if you need to split it up, Toby. I need 4 hours notice though, to pack and get to the airport. :)


4 hours? you've only gotta pack your tooth brush and that will be in the same case from last time you went to Vegas

And my leopard skin thong.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: claypole on February 22, 2013, 02:44:33 AM
Take Flushy's and Michelle's advice, declare - and if didn't declare on way outlast year have some supporting documentation. It took me and extra 15 mins last year at customs.

Boba - I wouldn't do that again; either end.  Had a friend who's sister recently bought 10k+ into uk she owed him pre Christmans, snap confiscated and while likely to get back he is still waiting two months later and numerous solicitor fees. I don't get why anyone wouldn't declare unless it's Columbian drug money - just a schoolboy error


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Boba Fett on February 22, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
Take Flushy's and Michelle's advice, declare - and if didn't declare on way outlast year have some supporting documentation. It took me and extra 15 mins last year at customs.

Boba - I wouldn't do that again; either end.  Had a friend who's sister recently bought 10k+ into uk she owed him pre Christmans, snap confiscated and while likely to get back he is still waiting two months later and numerous solicitor fees. I don't get why anyone wouldn't declare unless it's Columbian drug money - just a schoolboy error

I didnt intentionally not declare, most was in my bag/hoody pocket that went through the xray machine so I figured they would see it and I had planned on declaring if I was given a form to fill out/anyone asked but nobody asked and I was never given a form at McCarran or Newark.  When I got back to Glasgow I just wandered through the exit as normal.

That money is done and dusted anyway so dont need to worry about taking it back in


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Doobs on February 22, 2013, 09:07:30 AM
I don't get it, it's not illegal to have cash you just have to tell them.


bank statement + declaration + allowance for a little delay = easy.

if you don't declare and actually do some run bad, then it'll be tonnes of hassle and potentially rubber glove treatment.

havent got a statement tho, brought the cash back from vegas last year and just kept in as cash.....

Don't tell them that unless you declared it on the way out last year!


Dont think you need to declare it on the way out

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/customs/arriving/declaring-cash.htm


If you are leaving the USA with over $10,000 in cash then you definitely have to declare it on the way out of the USA AND when entering the UK.  If you arrive in the USA and declare over $10,000 on entry and tell them that it's cash you left the USA with last year they will check their records to see if you declared it on the way out last year.  If you didn't declare it then they can put you in jail!  

I left with like $32k in cash last summer in my pockets/laptop bag.  Obv it went through the x-ray machines and stuff and nobody said anything.  I wouldve declared it but nobody asked me and I wasnt given the form asking how much I had on the way out so I just figured didnt need to declare on the way out.  I was given one of the forms on the way in.

Thin


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: claypole on February 22, 2013, 12:09:57 PM
Take Flushy's and Michelle's advice, declare - and if didn't declare on way outlast year have some supporting documentation. It took me and extra 15 mins last year at customs.

Boba - I wouldn't do that again; either end.  Had a friend who's sister recently bought 10k+ into uk she owed him pre Christmans, snap confiscated and while likely to get back he is still waiting two months later and numerous solicitor fees. I don't get why anyone wouldn't declare unless it's Columbian drug money - just a schoolboy error

I didnt intentionally not declare, most was in my bag/hoody pocket that went through the xray machine so I figured they would see it and I had planned on declaring if I was given a form to fill out/anyone asked but nobody asked and I was never given a form at McCarran or Newark.  When I got back to Glasgow I just wandered through the exit as normal.

That money is done and dusted anyway so dont need to worry about taking it back in

Wasn't having a pop mate - just what happened to Bruce made it sobering advice....it's just good make others aware the responsibility is with you. Coming back into Uk you don't get immigration forms as we're uk residents.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 810ofclubs on February 23, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Took 10k exactly, easy as fuck.... nipped friend here for some more so all worked out.

Hate how they interrogate you when your trying to wake up from a 11hr flight


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: pleno1 on February 28, 2013, 10:23:54 AM
how'd this go mate?


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: smashedagain on February 28, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
how'd this go mate?
lol. Good bump


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: BorntoBubble on February 28, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Tal on February 28, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?

99 mates.

Or 100 if he still has his original 10k ;)


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: outragous76 on February 28, 2013, 01:38:23 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?

with Phil Ivey on his Private Jet?


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: RED-DOG on February 28, 2013, 01:40:07 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?

Go in with 2 million?


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: AndrewT on February 28, 2013, 01:47:07 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?

If you're Julian Gardner, just stick it in a bag on the seat next to you on the plane.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Simon Galloway on February 28, 2013, 03:19:35 PM
Exactly.  You have a pink slip from the tourny which shows why you have that much... so carrying it in a holdall is totally fine.


Probably would arrange a wire tho....


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: celtic on February 28, 2013, 03:21:27 PM
Available for cash carrying duties if you need to split it up, Toby. I need 4 hours notice though, to pack and get to the airport. :)



Just in case he somehow missed this...


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 810ofclubs on February 28, 2013, 05:02:20 PM
Guess ill be getting a cheque hey


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: SuuPRlim on February 28, 2013, 05:50:11 PM
Guess ill be getting a cheque hey

lol DONT GET A CHEQUE!


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: bobby1 on February 28, 2013, 05:59:29 PM
How do you take 1 million dollars out of the us?

If you're Julian Gardner, just stick it in a bag on the seat next to you on the plane.

This is prob the best way as it worked fine for Julian, buy a seat next to you on the plane for the bag and under no circumstances go to the toilet or fall asleep!


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: outragous76 on February 28, 2013, 06:09:38 PM
Guess ill be getting a cheque hey

You can't play crystal maze with a cheque!


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: 77dave on February 28, 2013, 07:17:50 PM
Go to the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop and bring it back in gold.


Title: Re: Advice - taking $ cash into the US
Post by: Tal on February 28, 2013, 08:21:22 PM
Go to the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop and bring it back in gold.

Mr T-alike ftw