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Title: Quick opinion please
Post by: jjandellis on March 05, 2013, 11:44:53 PM
Wot do u do? In hand v acquiantance (who has bought pieces of me in past). I raise co with qq btn 3 bets to 24...'friend' flats i ship all in as both got 115 n 150...i know i will get one caller..88 thru jj aq/ak...anyway friend only caller...i flop set..andy mucks gets up to  walk home...4 clubs...asian pipes up clubs clubs u got a club??? Please check friend says...yep 5c retrieved n shown by dealer..who says ul it mucked!!!!

Friend been living on redundancy pay off for last year n now basically grinding 1/1 for bit of cash. I know the hundo is a bit of a kick in nuts for him.

Wwyd?


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: aaron1867 on March 05, 2013, 11:53:31 PM
You mention guy is on redundancy pay, but he is sta on a table with what money he should be able to afford to lose or not sit down at all.

Hand is mucked and you win the pot.

There are no friends at the poker table.

Also not sure why you say "asain pops up and mentions clubs" - Not sure why it's relevant what race he is really.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2013, 11:55:32 PM
I'd give him the dough, tell him to pay attention and then make him buy me a kebab on the way home.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: redarmi on March 05, 2013, 11:57:07 PM

There are no friends at the poker table.


I really hate this saying.  It clearly bothers you or you wouldn't have posted.  If it isn't a massive blow to you then give him his buyin back or something away from the table if it will make you feel better.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: gouty on March 06, 2013, 12:00:44 AM
Take the piss out of him and hopefully he will learn to check his hand.

If he is a real friend and understands poker he won't expect you to give him anything as it sets a terrible precedent for future battles. Which is what is so great about playing with mates. It's like a bonus pot cos you can give em good rub down after!



Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: celtic on March 06, 2013, 12:29:37 AM
Give him nothing. That will teach him not get £100+ in pre with a hand containing a 5. Especially against a friend.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2013, 12:49:41 AM
Yeah the fact he a genuine good guy bothers me n I'm 10 bi up kinda makes it easy to absorb....only thought that bother me is that he would never ever callsuch a big shove from me with 55/a5...so bit of an integrity question (although 90% certain he beyond reproach)

Reason for thread becomes apparent... Thin ;)



Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: claypole on March 06, 2013, 01:12:08 AM
If he's a proper good mate and has taken pieces in me I sort him out; probably with his all in bet away from the table - maybe the lot if I am winning 10 bi but tell him to be more careful.

If its Celtic, I fist pump, do a little Harlen shake, proceeto tell him that was 15 Nandos or 25 Kebabs, tell everyone in the casino and post on blonde what an utter cock he's is.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: LeedsRhodesy on March 06, 2013, 01:15:11 AM


why is the dealer pulling his cards from the muck and looking at them in the 1st place?


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: celtic on March 06, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
If he's a proper good mate and has taken pieces in me I sort him out; probably with his all in bet away from the table - maybe the lot if I am winning 10 bi but tell him to be more careful.

If its Celtic, I fist pump, do a little Harlen shake, proceeto tell him that was 15 Nandos or 25 Kebabs, tell everyone in the casino and post on blonde what an utter cock he's is.

Consider your flat stripped and burned by April.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: JustinSayne on March 06, 2013, 03:26:57 AM
DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: GreekStein on March 06, 2013, 06:15:28 AM
Celtic nailed it.

How can you feel sorry for him when he's trying to make money playing this cash game yet he's calling your all in with some bag of shit hand.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: millidonk on March 06, 2013, 08:24:35 AM
I'd give him the dough, tell him to pay attention and then make him buy me a kebab on the way home.

Lolz, anything for a kebab.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: corkeye on March 06, 2013, 08:33:03 AM


why is the dealer pulling his cards from the muck and looking at them in the 1st place?


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2013, 08:35:39 AM
I'd give him the dough, tell him to pay attention and then make him buy me a kebab on the way home.

Lolz, anything for a kebab.

;)

I was under the impression they were good mates, as it appears not to be the case I agree with Vinny and buy myself kebabs for a while with his oner!


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2013, 02:59:00 AM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Basically...

DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed

I like to assume everyone would do the right thing, a slightly naive way to view the world ofc but nice to think. If I have even the slightest notion the guy might ba a prick though and he's not getting a penny.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: celtic on March 08, 2013, 03:42:50 AM
give him his money back, not even close imo.





Nooooo, really?

I find it hard to believe this guy actually had the  5c in his hand. And if he did, what is he doing calling off a oner pre, if the money means something to him?





Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: cambridgealex on March 08, 2013, 03:52:40 AM
DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed

I like this line, feels like that's the right way to go.

Something about this doesn't add up though.

Guy living off benefits gets it in pre with a 5 in his hand. Vs a friend? Dealer goes through muck to find his hand?


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2013, 04:45:40 AM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Nooooo, really?

I find it hard to believe this guy actually had the  5c in his hand. And if he did, what is he doing calling off a oner pre, if the money means something to him?

FYQ (fixed your quote :P )

Nothing to do with what the money means to him, if he was worth £25m i'd still give it back. I don't really have too much sympathy for "what the money means to people" in general because at the end of the day they are sat there gambling with it.

It's pretty obvious he has 55 btw, if his hand did contain the 5c , not that it's relevant - never got why people feel mugged off when people call them off really light in a cash game, usually people just wanna gamble...

Do unto others...


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2013, 07:34:31 AM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Nooooo, really?

I find it hard to believe this guy actually had the  5c in his hand. And if he did, what is he doing calling off a oner pre, if the money means something to him?

FYQ (fixed your quote :P )

Nothing to do with what the money means to him, if he was worth £25m i'd still give it back. I don't really have too much sympathy for "what the money means to people" in general because at the end of the day they are sat there gambling with it.

It's pretty obvious he has 55 btw, if his hand did contain the 5c , not that it's relevant - never got why people feel mugged off when people call them off really light in a cash game, usually people just wanna gamble...

Do unto others...

Thats all the thread needed, it is that simple.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: The Camel on March 08, 2013, 08:39:51 AM
I'd give it back to him a week or so later.

Make him learn his lesson first because playing the way he did is going to prove very costly in the future if he doesn't stop it.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: cambridgealex on March 08, 2013, 08:52:27 AM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: GreekStein on March 08, 2013, 09:22:26 AM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: cambridgealex on March 08, 2013, 09:41:49 AM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.

Hi Cos


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2013, 11:51:14 AM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.

Haha, an half an hour with your missus as well I hope.

(just his half ofc you could have kept the whole thing if you wanted so for him to profit seems a touch unnecessary!)


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: gouty on March 08, 2013, 12:19:23 PM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Basically...

DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed

I like to assume everyone would do the right thing, a slightly naive way to view the world ofc but nice to think. If I have even the slightest notion the guy might ba a prick though and he's not getting a penny.
It's not often I disagree with Lil Dave but I don't think this is right. If the guy wants to spin his mate with 55 that's fine, however he has to face the consequences. The whole hand is a tale of woe and and the flush should never even be known.

The player who mentioned the club in an untabled hand is totally out of order and so is the dealer. These are important points.More importantly how can you ever play a decent pot with the friend in the future if you fanny about now giving him a bung in the car park which this amounts to?

There is also a good chance the friend will take offence if you offer him something, I know I would feel like a right bell end. Bad enough tilting off a oner without having one of the regs seeing me as a charity case.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: skolsuper on March 08, 2013, 12:46:52 PM
+1 to "do unto others...": I wouldn't expect, nor would I accept if offered, any of the pot in that situation, so no give nothing back. @Lildave, there's being nice, and then there's being a mug.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: julian on March 08, 2013, 12:53:15 PM
tell him he played it like a wanker


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: NEWY on March 08, 2013, 01:03:28 PM
tell him he played it like a wanker

LOL what happened to Mr Nice guy


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: julian on March 08, 2013, 01:15:06 PM
don't do that sh1t no more,

gonna tell it like it is henceforth



Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: NEWY on March 08, 2013, 01:21:46 PM
don't do that sh1t no more,

gonna tell it like it is henceforth



Ok mate NOB


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: kinboshi on March 08, 2013, 01:46:16 PM
tell him he played it like a wanker

LOL what happened to Mr Nice guy

Sooooooooooooooo 2011.

10% please.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 08, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Basically...

DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed

I like to assume everyone would do the right thing, a slightly naive way to view the world ofc but nice to think. If I have even the slightest notion the guy might ba a prick though and he's not getting a penny.
It's not often I disagree with Lil Dave but I don't think this is right. If the guy wants to spin his mate with 55 that's fine, however he has to face the consequences. The whole hand is a tale of woe and and the flush should never even be known.

The player who mentioned the club in an untabled hand is totally out of order and so is the dealer. These are important points.More importantly how can you ever play a decent pot with the friend in the future if you fanny about now giving him a bung in the car park which this amounts to?

There is also a good chance the friend will take offence if you offer him something, I know I would feel like a right bell end. Bad enough tilting off a oner without having one of the regs seeing me as a charity case.

How's it charity? He had the best hand and irrespective of whether or not anyone should have mentioned it we've all seen that he did, so give him his money back! Seriously it's not even close for me, wouldn't expect it back but think its the right thing to do.

Maybe I'm just against the flow here, who knows!


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: cambridgealex on March 08, 2013, 02:49:20 PM
don't do that sh1t no more,

gonna tell it like it is henceforth



lol that's how the gangsters tell it like it is! "henceforth" :D


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: tikay on March 08, 2013, 03:06:18 PM
don't do that sh1t no more,

gonna tell it like it is henceforth



lol that's how the gangsters tell it like it is! "henceforth" :D

Today, it is MISTER Thew to you.

Now, you may enlighten me.



 


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: iangascoigne on March 08, 2013, 03:16:39 PM
        I am certainly not going to walk round the Mean Streets of Lady Bay anymore. It's a jungle out there.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: GreekStein on March 08, 2013, 03:39:45 PM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.

Hi Cos

Sorry sorry. If it was Musclez or Mantis I'd have just let the comment slide but you're sharp enough to know better!


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: GreekStein on March 08, 2013, 03:40:16 PM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.

Hi Cos

Sorry sorry. If it was Musclez or Mantis I'd have just let the comment slide but you're sharp enough to know better!

P.s Hi Alex.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: cambridgealex on March 08, 2013, 03:48:53 PM
are people suggesting we give him the whole pot or just his half back?

Yeah whole pot ofc Alex and maybe some of our savings, perhaps the shirt on our back too.

Hi Cos

Sorry sorry. If it was Musclez or Mantis I'd have just let the comment slide but you're sharp enough to know better!

P.s Hi Alex.

Hi Cos


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: gouty on March 08, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
give him his money back, not even close imo.

Basically...

DO whatever you think he would do if roles had been reversed

I like to assume everyone would do the right thing, a slightly naive way to view the world ofc but nice to think. If I have even the slightest notion the guy might ba a prick though and he's not getting a penny.
It's not often I disagree with Lil Dave but I don't think this is right. If the guy wants to spin his mate with 55 that's fine, however he has to face the consequences. The whole hand is a tale of woe and and the flush should never even be known.

The player who mentioned the club in an untabled hand is totally out of order and so is the dealer. These are important points.More importantly how can you ever play a decent pot with the friend in the future if you fanny about now giving him a bung in the car park which this amounts to?

There is also a good chance the friend will take offence if you offer him something, I know I would feel like a right bell end. Bad enough tilting off a oner without having one of the regs seeing me as a charity case.

How's it charity? He had the best hand and irrespective of whether or not anyone should have mentioned it we've all seen that he did, so give him his money back! Seriously it's not even close for me, wouldn't expect it back but think its the right thing to do.

Maybe I'm just against the flow here, who knows!
Nothing wrong with going against the flow. But I don't see how it can't even be close.

He never even had a hand let alone the best one. It was in the muck. Some fundamental rules of the game are never worth breaking like 1 player to a hand and protecting your hand. This guy failed in both of those. Surely a player has to show some respect for the game.



Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: SuuPRlim on March 09, 2013, 03:05:06 PM
I mean you're right, cards speak in my world though if the mans got the best hand he's got the best hand.


Title: Re: Quick opinion please
Post by: china mug on March 12, 2013, 07:32:39 PM
bring your friend down to luton g ,he wont have to rely on another player telling him he has a flush after hes mucked , provideing he sits in seat 1 or 9 he will be told by she who will remain nameless while he still has the hand in the air not showing it to anyone and muttering ...no your good you win ,then going to throw the hand in face down,and the ever so friendley staff will squell out....you have a flush