Title: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 09:35:40 AM hi i have decided to start a poker diary. first i will start by introducing myself i am Ashley Jenkin age 24 and i live in cornwall i first got into poker by playing small home games and watching it on tv from about 5 years back then i seen an advertisement one day on tv about online poker so i decided to try it out i started at pkr where for the first 500 games i was a break even player now im 2400 games in with an avg stake of $4 and im up $4,000 in profit with an 88% roi which i think is pretty good.
something a bit different to my normal. what i plan on doing is grinding up a bankroll on stars at the $4.50 180 man sng's (non turbos) so as these are non turbos im thinking 100 buy ins is more than enough, just a few questions if anyone wouldnt mind giving feedback on. 1.what downswing can i expect at the $4.50 180 man sngs (non turbos) 2.how many buy ins do u think i will need 3.what roi do you think is attainable over the long run ok thanks so im not going to go crazy on the volume to start off with. i will be posting hands and hoping to discuss strategy...............gl at the tables. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: NEWY on March 18, 2013, 10:07:33 AM Only 1 man u need to speak to thats MC (epitomised on stars) check out his graph then listen v carefully to what he has to say if he posts which I sure he will. Gud luck hope u get where u want to be.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 10:18:13 AM first session now starting just going to go with 4 tables at a time to start with, hopefully i get some interesting spots to post or bink one of em!
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 10:22:10 AM @newy ok i will look out for him.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 10:27:45 AM just looked at mc's (epitomised) sick graph and nearly 68k games jeeeeeeeez! nice work hopefully i get to that level some day.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: DaveShoelace on March 18, 2013, 10:29:05 AM Only 1 man u need to speak to thats MC (epitomised on stars) check out his graph then listen v carefully to what he has to say if he posts which I sure he will. Gud luck hope u get where u want to be. ^^^^^^^^^ This. James is one of the nicest guys in poker, I'll send him an email to say hello. Also check out this staking thread from Mondatoo, who is also a reg in those games http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=55978.0 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 10:30:28 AM i cant believe these take so long to fill, guess i picked the wrong time to play lol. i thought there wasnt a wrong time on stars beacause theres so many players.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 18, 2013, 10:57:42 AM i cant believe these take so long to fill, guess i picked the wrong time to play lol. i thought there wasnt a wrong time on stars beacause theres so many players. They will only run about 1 every 45 mins at the moment, they are never quick really not at all like the turbos but evenings and weekends do fill up more quickly. glglglTitle: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 11:05:24 AM ok thanks rod,just now in my first waited an age lol.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: vegaslover on March 18, 2013, 11:33:43 AM Might be worth trying either the smaller stakes turbo 180s or if you really don't like turbos the 90 manners as well.
As Rod stated and you experienced the non turbo 180s just don't run frequently enough Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 11:34:30 AM got a 2nd up and running...............nice double up straight away.
PokerStars Hand #95737391384: Tournament #705545854, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2013/03/18 11:17:54 WET [2013/03/18 7:17:54 ET] Table '705545854 8' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: powerpokerBR (1750 in chips) Seat 2: viacheslav.b (1420 in chips) Seat 3: Andryxa89 (1430 in chips) Seat 4: kubachelten (1376 in chips) Seat 5: uwitzjulijul (1480 in chips) Seat 6: andrei5024 (1374 in chips) Seat 7: ashj22 (1480 in chips) Seat 8: Cypriote16 (1750 in chips) Seat 9: Moni201 (1440 in chips) ashj22: posts small blind 10 Cypriote16: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Ac Js] Moni201: folds powerpokerBR: folds viacheslav.b: folds Andryxa89: folds kubachelten: raises 20 to 40 uwitzjulijul: calls 40 andrei5024: folds ashj22: calls 30 Cypriote16: folds *** FLOP *** [6h Jh Tc] ashj22: checks kubachelten: checks uwitzjulijul: bets 100 ashj22: calls 100 kubachelten: folds *** TURN *** [6h Jh Tc] [2s] ashj22: checks uwitzjulijul: bets 300 ashj22: calls 300 *** RIVER *** [6h Jh Tc 2s] [3c] ashj22: checks uwitzjulijul: bets 1040 and is all-in ashj22: calls 1040 and is all-in *** SHOW DOWN *** uwitzjulijul: shows [Qs 9s] (high card Queen) ashj22: shows [Ac Js] (a pair of Jacks) ashj22 collected 3020 from pot uwitzjulijul finished the tournament in 167th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3020 | Rake 0 Board [6h Jh Tc 2s 3c] Seat 1: powerpokerBR folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: viacheslav.b folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Andryxa89 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: kubachelten folded on the Flop Seat 5: uwitzjulijul showed [Qs 9s] and lost with high card Queen Seat 6: andrei5024 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: ashj22 (small blind) showed [Ac Js] and won (3020) with a pair of Jacks Seat 8: Cypriote16 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: Moni201 folded before Flop (didn't bet) gave him the rope and he used it to hang himself. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 12:10:49 PM quick update while im in the break i had 4 running
no.1 1h 11 mins in 61/64 no.2 45 mins in 38/104 no.3 busted ran qq into kk will post hand later to hopefully get feedback on it no.4 1 min 74/179 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 12:17:49 PM come on you beauty!!!!!!!!!! doubled up in no.1 and trebled up in no.2!
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 12:42:11 PM pffffff busted no.1 and no.4 but in no.2 im 1/64
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 01:12:21 PM right on 2nd break just the 1 left from the 4 i played im 3/44
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Ragz on March 18, 2013, 01:17:27 PM Not sure it works out better $/hr playing these than the $2 180 turbos. The reg speeds take 4+ hours whereas the turbos are usually less than 2hrs. But 100bis should be enough for the reg speed anyway.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 01:22:11 PM im not a big fan of turbos, i think im gonna stick with these for the time being.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 01:36:27 PM ok so here is one of the bust out hands, probaly silly even asking if its standard but can i get away here?
PokerStars Hand #95738491469: Tournament #705553469, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/03/18 11:53:48 WET [2013/03/18 7:53:48 ET] Table '705553469 18' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: naitlis (1660 in chips) Seat 2: iQube (1520 in chips) Seat 3: Delta39x (1260 in chips) Seat 4: Scothh (2280 in chips) Seat 5: sotirakis33 (1680 in chips) Seat 6: welliton17 (1440 in chips) Seat 7: Zithenn (1265 in chips) Seat 8: ashj22 (1525 in chips) Seat 9: Hfpev (2310 in chips) iQube: posts small blind 15 Delta39x: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Qh Qd] Scothh: raises 30 to 60 sotirakis33: folds welliton17: folds Zithenn: calls 60 ashj22: raises 150 to 210 Hfpev: folds naitlis: folds iQube: folds Delta39x: folds Scothh: raises 2070 to 2280 and is all-in Zithenn: folds ashj22: calls 1315 and is all-in Uncalled bet (755) returned to Scothh *** FLOP *** [Kd 5d 4c] *** TURN *** [Kd 5d 4c] [Jd] *** RIVER *** [Kd 5d 4c Jd] [5c] *** SHOW DOWN *** Scothh: shows [Ks Kh] (a full house, Kings full of Fives) ashj22: shows [Qh Qd] (two pair, Queens and Fives) Scothh collected 3155 from pot ashj22 finished the tournament in 143rd place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3155 | Rake 0 Board [Kd 5d 4c Jd 5c] Seat 1: naitlis (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: iQube (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: Delta39x (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: Scothh showed [Ks Kh] and won (3155) with a full house, Kings full of Fives Seat 5: sotirakis33 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: welliton17 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Zithenn folded before Flop Seat 8: ashj22 showed [Qh Qd] and lost with two pair, Queens and Fives Seat 9: Hfpev folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 01:39:36 PM ITM 2/27
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:08:14 PM the river counterfeited me twice when i had two pair in descent sized pots aswell still in though 9/12
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:39:02 PM ft 8/9
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:40:28 PM dont know what was more tilting the time it took to fill up or the final table bubble.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:42:05 PM am out 8/180 donkey called my shove with qjs what a fish.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:43:51 PM i have a few hands to post a bit later if i could get feedback on them would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 02:57:48 PM HAND 1
PokerStars Hand #95737272777: Tournament #705534736, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2013/03/18 11:13:53 WET [2013/03/18 7:13:53 ET] Table '705534736 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: MrKroenen (1652 in chips) Seat 2: albiniuks (2045 in chips) Seat 3: FroggerFL (1620 in chips) Seat 4: ashj22 (1645 in chips) Seat 5: ilivad (2825 in chips) Seat 6: athos.adr (3515 in chips) Seat 7: bowlmoah (2945 in chips) Seat 8: DSMaverick (1500 in chips) Seat 9: ntamacoupa (928 in chips) ilivad: posts small blind 15 athos.adr: posts big blind 30 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [8d Ah] bowlmoah: folds DSMaverick: folds ntamacoupa: folds MrKroenen: folds albiniuks: folds FroggerFL: folds ashj22: raises 30 to 60 <---------------- raise from postion cos i feel that the blinds will defend with worse than a8 ilivad: folds athos.adr: calls 30 *** FLOP *** [6h Ad 3h] <-------------------- check flop for pot control and deception athos.adr: checks ashj22: checks *** TURN *** [6h Ad 3h] [Js] athos.adr: bets 30 ashj22: raises 60 to 90 <---------------- raise his weird min turn bet as i feel im ahead im going for value athos.adr: raises 60 to 150 <--------------- call weird min re raise to see what he does on river ashj22: calls 60 *** RIVER *** [6h Ad 3h Js] [4d] athos.adr: bets 420 <----------------- not really sure what to put him on but is he going to value bet worse than a8 ashj22: folds Uncalled bet (420) returned to athos.adr athos.adr collected 435 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 435 | Rake 0 Board [6h Ad 3h Js 4d] would just like to know is there any flawed thought process here? thanks Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 03:02:54 PM PokerStars Hand #95738756761: Tournament #705534736, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/18 12:03:15 WET [2013/03/18 8:03:15 ET]
Table '705534736 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: hard2crack (8230 in chips) Seat 2: IvgvardV (3390 in chips) Seat 3: Chewporka (3931 in chips) Seat 4: Dan4ik17 (4336 in chips) Seat 5: dexter777720 (5725 in chips) Seat 6: ashj22 (1235 in chips) Seat 7: schepok (7379 in chips) Seat 8: ilivad (1748 in chips) Seat 9: pacino_k (2315 in chips) IvgvardV: posts small blind 75 Chewporka: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [2h 2d] Dan4ik17: raises 300 to 450 dexter777720: folds ashj22: raises 785 to 1235 and is all-in <------------------- is this standard i know im getting called and im either flipping or crushed but my stack is ridic small and i feel i need to take a shot schepok: folds ilivad: folds pacino_k: folds hard2crack: folds IvgvardV: folds Chewporka: folds Dan4ik17: calls 785 *** FLOP *** [7s 8s Qd] *** TURN *** [7s 8s Qd] [9d] *** RIVER *** [7s 8s Qd 9d] [Qc] *** SHOW DOWN *** Dan4ik17: shows [Ah Ks] (a pair of Queens) ashj22: shows [2h 2d] (two pair, Queens and Deuces) ashj22 collected 2695 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2695 | Rake 0 Board [7s 8s Qd 9d Qc] Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 04:27:05 PM so far 4 played = $18 and 1 cash 8/180 for $16.23 so im -$1.77.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: MC on March 18, 2013, 05:30:39 PM Can't imagine these being a good way to build a roll. $2-$2.50 a game is probably attainable, and with 50% ROI downswings shouldn't be too gross (shouldn't have 100+ buyin downswings often I wouldn't think).
If you're playing these for fun or whatever then fair enough but gl playing enough a day to make any money. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: MC on March 18, 2013, 05:35:33 PM Btw 22 is a clear fold and A8 you should be betting flop for value.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 06:35:33 PM not a good way to build a roll? really i have done a fair bit of research and its everywhere that these are apperently great br buliders and someone on 2+2 said a good player at these could attain 100% roi. with the 22 hand i had 8bb and the blinds are coming round so i cant sit around all day and blind down imo. thanks for the feedback appreciate it.
im not looking to try and make descent money straight off the bat but if that 100% roi is attainable i could easily play 200 a month which would mean $900 a month and i know thats not much money but it looks like it could bulid the br up quite nicely.obv this may not be realistic at all thats why im asking around. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: MC on March 18, 2013, 07:17:58 PM Tbh I'm not that well informed on them, but personally I've never sharkscoped someone with higher than 50%, but that doesn't mean it's not possible.
I promise you can't profitably jam deuces here with no fold equity into an EP 3x raise pre-antes, however much sitting around you prefer not to do. If $1k a month is your goal then perhaps it is viable. Vbol! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 18, 2013, 08:07:30 PM having a more detailed look about the attainable roi some say 100% roi is attainable for hudereds but once your in the thousands played it starts dropping. 22 hand thanks for clearing that up its just before i thought you may of meant that you would prefer a fold as its marginal but now youve said its actually unprofitable i wont be doing that again lol and yeah 1k a month to start building my br up is fine by me then maybe move up levels or switch to playing mtts not sure yet.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 19, 2013, 10:48:38 AM I think a 30% ROI is very easily doable on these (even I can do it *lol*). 50% is not so easy (I think?) but will be very interested to see if it can be done. How are you finding the volume on these 200 per month sound quite hard to me as they just do not run often enough. Are you playing every day? They can take an hour to fill and 4-5 hours to play. I am only a small volume rec though.
On the A8 hand is the turn not a fold as played when he 3-bets, the line looks ridic strong? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 11:59:07 AM yeah im not playing much volume at all to start with just 4 a day at the moment but i mentioned i could easily do 200 a month cos thats only 8 a day which seems fine,to start off with though im going for quality over quantity just try and get really good before i put the volume in. yeah a8 hand was weird prob shoulda just c-bet flop to get more info but i try not play predictable (the same line every time)
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 01:26:09 PM just starting another 4 only 2 up at the mo though and pretty card dead meh.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 01:46:46 PM right thats 4 up and running will update on breaks
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 02:08:09 PM break time
no.1 65/76 no.2 busted cos of this muppets call PokerStars Hand #95796525015: Tournament #706099985, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2013/03/19 13:51:10 WET [2013/03/19 9:51:10 ET] Table '706099985 18' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: vasiliu580 (1705 in chips) Seat 2: LUCKYCHUPS (2125 in chips) Seat 3: Grafschluck (5191 in chips) is sitting out Seat 4: belus1985 (1960 in chips) Seat 5: delange46 (4793 in chips) Seat 6: adac6 (2358 in chips) Seat 7: ashj22 (1240 in chips) Seat 8: TF430 (1564 in chips) Seat 9: tobibaby_KK (6179 in chips) adac6: posts small blind 25 ashj22: posts big blind 50 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Ks Jd] TF430: folds tobibaby_KK: folds vasiliu580: folds LUCKYCHUPS: folds Grafschluck: folds belus1985: folds delange46: raises 100 to 150 adac6: folds ashj22: raises 1090 to 1240 and is all-in delange46: calls 1090 *** FLOP *** [3h Tc 5h] *** TURN *** [3h Tc 5h] [Qs] *** RIVER *** [3h Tc 5h Qs] [Js] *** SHOW DOWN *** ashj22: shows [Ks Jd] (a pair of Jacks) delange46: shows [Ts Qh] (two pair, Queens and Tens) delange46 collected 2505 from pot ashj22 finished the tournament in 105th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2505 | Rake 0 Board [3h Tc 5h Qs Js] Seat 1: vasiliu580 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: LUCKYCHUPS folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Grafschluck folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: belus1985 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: delange46 (button) showed [Ts Qh] and won (2505) with two pair, Queens and Tens Seat 6: adac6 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: ashj22 (big blind) showed [Ks Jd] and lost with a pair of Jacks Seat 8: TF430 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: tobibaby_KK folded before Flop (didn't bet) no.3 10/117 no.4 7/143 blinds were just about to go up aswell. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 02:21:50 PM doubled in no.1 kqs v 88
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 02:22:55 PM just brought in a no.5
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 02:29:04 PM is this a 3 bet jam here?
PokerStars Hand #95797457968: Tournament #706095818, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/19 14:15:05 WET [2013/03/19 10:15:05 ET] Table '706095818 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: LonelySail (4509 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (2805 in chips) Seat 3: Zanimljiv (480 in chips) Seat 4: memo__9700 (2660 in chips) Seat 5: JStedile1 (4256 in chips) Seat 6: FRY773 (4810 in chips) Seat 7: steggles75 (5127 in chips) Seat 8: Prometey9 (3572 in chips) Seat 9: TomateXIV (9207 in chips) steggles75: posts small blind 75 Prometey9: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [9h 9d] TomateXIV: folds LonelySail: raises 150 to 300 ashj22: folds Zanimljiv: folds memo__9700: folds JStedile1: folds FRY773: folds steggles75: folds Prometey9: folds Uncalled bet (150) returned to LonelySail LonelySail collected 375 from pot LonelySail: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 375 | Rake 0 Seat 1: LonelySail collected (375) Seat 2: ashj22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Zanimljiv folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: memo__9700 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: JStedile1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: FRY773 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: steggles75 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: Prometey9 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: TomateXIV folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 03:09:19 PM break time
no.1 27/33 no.2 busted no.3 29/49 no.4 46/58 no.5 busted Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 03:34:07 PM no.1 itm
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 03:51:23 PM no.2 itm
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:08:12 PM no.1 9/14
no.2 10/18 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:19:09 PM no.1 ft
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:21:28 PM on ft ofc nice joke!
PokerStars Hand #95802482741: Tournament #706095818, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/03/19 16:08:03 WET [2013/03/19 12:08:03 ET] Table '706095818 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: LonelySail (17726 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (10616 in chips) Seat 3: CENUA (19207 in chips) Seat 4: ShtikTZ (28421 in chips) Seat 5: kili_75 (33524 in chips) Seat 6: jgam1986 (40303 in chips) Seat 7: orestasore (31394 in chips) Seat 8: shevalex09 (75667 in chips) Seat 9: amInerd (13142 in chips) LonelySail: posts the ante 100 ashj22: posts the ante 100 CENUA: posts the ante 100 ShtikTZ: posts the ante 100 kili_75: posts the ante 100 jgam1986: posts the ante 100 orestasore: posts the ante 100 shevalex09: posts the ante 100 amInerd: posts the ante 100 ashj22: posts small blind 500 CENUA: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [As Kc] ShtikTZ: folds kili_75: folds jgam1986: folds orestasore: folds shevalex09: folds amInerd: folds LonelySail: folds ashj22: raises 7000 to 8000 CENUA: raises 11107 to 19107 and is all-in ashj22: calls 2516 and is all-in Uncalled bet (8591) returned to CENUA *** FLOP *** [5h Jh Tc] *** TURN *** [5h Jh Tc] [6h] *** RIVER *** [5h Jh Tc 6h] [8d] *** SHOW DOWN *** ashj22: shows [As Kc] (high card Ace) CENUA: shows [Ac 6s] (a pair of Sixes) CENUA collected 21932 from pot ashj22 finished the tournament in 9th place and received $11.07. *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 21932 | Rake 0 Board [5h Jh Tc 6h 8d] Seat 1: LonelySail (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ashj22 (small blind) showed [As Kc] and lost with high card Ace Seat 3: CENUA (big blind) showed [Ac 6s] and won (21932) with a pair of Sixes Seat 4: ShtikTZ folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: kili_75 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: jgam1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: orestasore folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: shevalex09 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: amInerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:39:22 PM just busted no.2 11/180 qq straight into kk again.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:40:34 PM no.1 finished 9/180
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 04:52:36 PM day 2 $22.50 on buy ins cashed for $18.08 so overall -$6.19 so far zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 08:05:54 PM hmmmmmm i was gonna play some cash games but cant be asked with boring cash, time to fire up a few $4.50's
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 08:10:05 PM will start updates when i have all 4 running.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 09:08:05 PM break time
no.1 46/92 no.2 34/101 no.3 68/112 no.4 81/123 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 09:40:39 PM busted all of them before itm mostly thanks to pathetic play getting rewarded which inturn tilted me.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 09:42:35 PM -$24.19 overall after 13 games.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 10:02:26 PM sorry if my language offended anyone was just trying to keep it as real as possible as its a diary, i have edited all the posts now and will keep it down in future
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 19, 2013, 10:03:53 PM Top man, thank you. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dwayne110 on March 19, 2013, 10:42:50 PM GL with the diary mate. I would recommend keeping it productive and avoiding 'pathetic call' etc statements after badbeats, obv frustrating but that's all part of the game ... and after all you want such calls anyway surely? You'll get more feedback too! :)
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 10:46:16 PM ty dwayne
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 19, 2013, 11:12:29 PM is this a 3 bet jam here? Good question, I hope MC will answer itPokerStars Hand #95797457968: Tournament #706095818, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/19 14:15:05 WET [2013/03/19 10:15:05 ET] Table '706095818 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: LonelySail (4509 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (2805 in chips) Seat 3: Zanimljiv (480 in chips) Seat 4: memo__9700 (2660 in chips) Seat 5: JStedile1 (4256 in chips) Seat 6: FRY773 (4810 in chips) Seat 7: steggles75 (5127 in chips) Seat 8: Prometey9 (3572 in chips) Seat 9: TomateXIV (9207 in chips) steggles75: posts small blind 75 Prometey9: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [9h 9d] TomateXIV: folds LonelySail: raises 150 to 300 ashj22: folds Zanimljiv: folds memo__9700: folds JStedile1: folds FRY773: folds steggles75: folds Prometey9: folds Uncalled bet (150) returned to LonelySail LonelySail collected 375 from pot LonelySail: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 375 | Rake 0 Seat 1: LonelySail collected (375) Seat 2: ashj22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Zanimljiv folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: memo__9700 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: JStedile1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: FRY773 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: steggles75 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: Prometey9 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: TomateXIV folded before Flop (didn't bet) You have enough to make him fold but in a vacuum (readless) it is hard to say. Do we have HUD stats for PFR and fold to 3-bet that would give us some idea. The raise is from EP so is weighted to the stronger part of his range. 99 looks a good hand though and you can get calls in these from like 55, 66, 77 and 88 here as well a a few hands you are racing with so it is possible you are just ahead of his calling range. Add in some fold equity and your shove is probably +cEV which should be the main thing we are looking at at this stage. I am guessing it is a 3-bet shove? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 19, 2013, 11:31:40 PM well im thinking if i do 3 bet shove here 88 and worse wont be calling imo.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: david3103 on March 19, 2013, 11:49:49 PM on ft ofc nice joke! PokerStars Hand #95802482741: Tournament #706095818, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/03/19 16:08:03 WET [2013/03/19 12:08:03 ET] Table '706095818 6' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: LonelySail (17726 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (10616 in chips) Seat 3: CENUA (19207 in chips) Seat 4: ShtikTZ (28421 in chips) Seat 5: kili_75 (33524 in chips) Seat 6: jgam1986 (40303 in chips) Seat 7: orestasore (31394 in chips) Seat 8: shevalex09 (75667 in chips) Seat 9: amInerd (13142 in chips) LonelySail: posts the ante 100 ashj22: posts the ante 100 CENUA: posts the ante 100 ShtikTZ: posts the ante 100 kili_75: posts the ante 100 jgam1986: posts the ante 100 orestasore: posts the ante 100 shevalex09: posts the ante 100 amInerd: posts the ante 100 ashj22: posts small blind 500 CENUA: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [As Kc] ShtikTZ: folds kili_75: folds jgam1986: folds orestasore: folds shevalex09: folds amInerd: folds LonelySail: folds ashj22: raises 7000 to 8000 CENUA: raises 11107 to 19107 and is all-in ashj22: calls 2516 and is all-in Uncalled bet (8591) returned to CENUA *** FLOP *** [5h Jh Tc] *** TURN *** [5h Jh Tc] [6h] *** RIVER *** [5h Jh Tc 6h] [8d] *** SHOW DOWN *** ashj22: shows [As Kc] (high card Ace) CENUA: shows [Ac 6s] (a pair of Sixes) CENUA collected 21932 from pot ashj22 finished the tournament in 9th place and received $11.07. *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 21932 | Rake 0 Board [5h Jh Tc 6h 8d] Seat 1: LonelySail (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ashj22 (small blind) showed [As Kc] and lost with high card Ace Seat 3: CENUA (big blind) showed [Ac 6s] and won (21932) with a pair of Sixes Seat 4: ShtikTZ folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: kili_75 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: jgam1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: orestasore folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: shevalex09 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: amInerd folded before Flop (didn't bet) Raise size seems unusual... In all seriousness, if you plan on playing any volume of these, and making some form of income from it then you need to revise your attitude to the plays of others. Or you'll go mad very fast. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 12:01:13 AM i had 10bb so that raise is the same as shoving. its just so annoying when terrible play gets rewarded and i know its the game dosent make it not annoying though. when i bink one then it seems easier to handle bad plays getting rewarded, cos at the moment it just seems like good play gets you knowwhere but i know the variance in poker can be quite brutal depending on what your playing.i also know if i keep making the right descions and playing well it is enevitable that i will hit a good streak.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Ragz on March 20, 2013, 02:38:44 AM I'd make it 630/decide. You can get away from multiple jams that way plus you're IP when he flats which so often he will. HUD stats make these decisions infinitely easier, you should think about trialling Hold Em Manager.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dakky on March 20, 2013, 05:49:12 AM i had 10bb so that raise is the same as shoving. its just so annoying when terrible play gets rewarded and i know its the game dosent make it not annoying though. when i bink one then it seems easier to handle bad plays getting rewarded, cos at the moment it just seems like good play gets you knowwhere but i know the variance in poker can be quite brutal depending on what your playing.i also know if i keep making the right descions and playing well it is enevitable that i will hit a good streak. It's not exactly terrible play when he wants to (effectively) call of 10bb with an ace BVB tho Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 07:48:31 AM Ashley, As others - wiser & older than me - have said, you need to get your head in the right place if you want to... a) Be profitable b) Enjoy poker. No point playing the game if you don't tick at least one of those two boxes. This "these idiots make terrible plays & get rewarded" attitude is WRONG. As long as you think that way, you will NEVER tick boxes a) & b). Some of us.......only make money at poker due to these idiots. Were it not for them, we'd be HUGE losers. Respect them, they are your profit. And the hard truth is, if you cannot beat these players over time.......then you are no better than them. Good luck Ash, sort it out. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 20, 2013, 08:20:19 AM well im thinking if i do 3 bet shove here 88 and worse wont be calling imo. If you have a read on the player that says that then fine, but in these there are without doubt a lot of players that do call with worse. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 20, 2013, 09:29:44 AM Ashley, As others - wiser & older than me - have said, you need to get your head in the right place if you want to... a) Be profitable b) Enjoy poker. No point playing the game if you don't tick at least one of those two boxes. This "these idiots make terrible plays & get rewarded" attitude is WRONG. As long as you think that way, you will NEVER tick boxes a) & b). Some of us.......only make money at poker due to these idiots. Were it not for them, we'd be HUGE losers. Respect them, they are your profit. And the hard truth is, if you cannot beat these players over time.......then you are no better than them. Good luck Ash, sort it out. Very wise words... if I was you I would take this in and digest it for a day or 2 cause all the comments on here are right... I have read this from the beginning and I get the feeling you are trying to hard. You know that variance kicks you in the balls at times but you have to be able to take it. Like tikay said these are the "idiots" that will make you money in the long term!! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: david3103 on March 20, 2013, 10:30:46 AM Ashley, As others - wiser & older than me - have said, you need to get your head in the right place if you want to... a) Be profitable b) Enjoy poker. No point playing the game if you don't tick at least one of those two boxes. This "these idiots make terrible plays & get rewarded" attitude is WRONG. As long as you think that way, you will NEVER tick boxes a) & b). Some of us.......only make money at poker due to these idiots. Were it not for them, we'd be HUGE losers. Respect them, they are your profit. And the hard truth is, if you cannot beat these players over time.......then you are no better than them. Good luck Ash, sort it out. Really? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: MC on March 20, 2013, 10:46:11 AM is this a 3 bet jam here? Good question, I hope MC will answer itPokerStars Hand #95797457968: Tournament #706095818, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2013/03/19 14:15:05 WET [2013/03/19 10:15:05 ET] Table '706095818 6' 9-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: LonelySail (4509 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (2805 in chips) Seat 3: Zanimljiv (480 in chips) Seat 4: memo__9700 (2660 in chips) Seat 5: JStedile1 (4256 in chips) Seat 6: FRY773 (4810 in chips) Seat 7: steggles75 (5127 in chips) Seat 8: Prometey9 (3572 in chips) Seat 9: TomateXIV (9207 in chips) steggles75: posts small blind 75 Prometey9: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [9h 9d] TomateXIV: folds LonelySail: raises 150 to 300 ashj22: folds Zanimljiv: folds memo__9700: folds JStedile1: folds FRY773: folds steggles75: folds Prometey9: folds Uncalled bet (150) returned to LonelySail LonelySail collected 375 from pot LonelySail: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 375 | Rake 0 Seat 1: LonelySail collected (375) Seat 2: ashj22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Zanimljiv folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: memo__9700 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: JStedile1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: FRY773 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: steggles75 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: Prometey9 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: TomateXIV folded before Flop (didn't bet) Always shoving nines here, unless perhaps opener is a gigantic nit Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 11:56:17 AM Ashley, As others - wiser & older than me - have said, you need to get your head in the right place if you want to... a) Be profitable b) Enjoy poker. No point playing the game if you don't tick at least one of those two boxes. This "these idiots make terrible plays & get rewarded" attitude is WRONG. As long as you think that way, you will NEVER tick boxes a) & b). Some of us.......only make money at poker due to these idiots. Were it not for them, we'd be HUGE losers. Respect them, they are your profit. And the hard truth is, if you cannot beat these players over time.......then you are no better than them. Good luck Ash, sort it out. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 12:05:02 PM Ashley, As others - wiser & older than me - have said, you need to get your head in the right place if you want to... a) Be profitable b) Enjoy poker. No point playing the game if you don't tick at least one of those two boxes. This "these idiots make terrible plays & get rewarded" attitude is WRONG. As long as you think that way, you will NEVER tick boxes a) & b). Some of us.......only make money at poker due to these idiots. Were it not for them, we'd be HUGE losers. Respect them, they are your profit. And the hard truth is, if you cannot beat these players over time.......then you are no better than them. Good luck Ash, sort it out. ...but that is precisely the point. They do NOT get rewarded 9/10. I'm just trying to get it across to you that there is no point in getting "tilted" because players, in your view, get lucky on you sometimes. It is the way of poker, it is normal, standard, perfectly natural, it always was, & always will be. So it's best that you come to terms with it. It will always be so. "Tilt" is a very bad thing for a poker player, it is a weakness, even though it is increasingly fashionable to boast about it. Cure it, & you will a) enjoy your poker more, & b) be more profitable. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 12:14:49 PM i was suppose to put a fullstop at the ended of rewarded. it is meant to come across i "9/10 i dont tilt". i also dont think that bad play gets rewarded 9/10.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 12:16:54 PM i was suppose to put a fullstop at the ended of rewarded. Ahh, well that does rather change the meaning. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 01:36:02 PM anyone have any ideas how to improve? at the minute im just playing around 4 a day then the next day before my session i review the previous days hh and also posting hands here. what else can i do to improve?
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 01:48:19 PM right i got 4 up and running...........time for a bink?
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 02:09:03 PM no.1 15/85
no.2 86/109 no.3 116/134 no.4 31/157 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: VBlue on March 20, 2013, 02:09:52 PM Read some strategy guides, or watch some videos? Get TMGOP 1 and pre-order TMGOP 2 - sounds like the 1st will be of massive help.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 02:12:00 PM ok thanks. TMGOP 1 and pre-order TMGOP 2 <--------------------- never heard of it.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 02:23:38 PM busted no.2 AQ v AK
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: VBlue on March 20, 2013, 02:24:53 PM Never heard of either? Quite possibly the best £20 you could invest in your poker career. The Mental Game of Poker - books or audios.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 02:34:02 PM now you said them in full i understand what you mean and they do sound like something i could benefit from.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 02:52:20 PM was crushing no.1 until obviously i run ak into aa zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 20, 2013, 02:56:20 PM was crushing no.1 until obviously i run ak into aa zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz post the hand Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 03:01:08 PM PokerStars Hand #95851985941: Tournament #706607330, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2013/03/20 14:38:21 WET [2013/03/20 10:38:21 ET]
Table '706607330 17' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: nima414 (9921 in chips) Seat 2: fdmlopes93 (3285 in chips) Seat 3: Pit1956 (7101 in chips) Seat 4: lavinia_pkr (1728 in chips) Seat 5: Samy_0787 (14343 in chips) Seat 6: sabbatage1 (6865 in chips) Seat 7: TarekGG (3899 in chips) Seat 8: ashj22 (6955 in chips) Seat 9: ganz3 (1777 in chips) nima414: posts the ante 25 fdmlopes93: posts the ante 25 Pit1956: posts the ante 25 lavinia_pkr: posts the ante 25 Samy_0787: posts the ante 25 sabbatage1: posts the ante 25 TarekGG: posts the ante 25 ashj22: posts the ante 25 ganz3: posts the ante 25 ashj22: posts small blind 125 ganz3: posts big blind 250 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Ad Kh] nima414: folds fdmlopes93: folds Pit1956: raises 250 to 500 lavinia_pkr: folds Samy_0787: folds sabbatage1: calls 500 TarekGG said, "i shouldve done that terrible play, but i was oop wanted to get raised" TarekGG: folds ashj22: raises 6430 to 6930 and is all-in ganz3: folds Pit1956: raises 146 to 7076 and is all-in sabbatage1: folds [2s 2c] Uncalled bet (146) returned to Pit1956 nima414 said, "got to move on turn" *** FLOP *** [5h 8s 6c] *** TURN *** [5h 8s 6c] [4h] Pit1956 said, "i.d.i.o.t from united kingdom" *** RIVER *** [5h 8s 6c 4h] [4c] *** SHOW DOWN *** ashj22: shows [Ad Kh] (a pair of Fours) Pit1956: shows [Ah As] (two pair, Aces and Fours) Pit1956 collected 14835 from pot ashj22 finished the tournament in 44th place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 14835 | Rake 0 Board [5h 8s 6c 4h 4c] Seat 1: nima414 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: fdmlopes93 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Pit1956 showed [Ah As] and won (14835) with two pair, Aces and Fours Seat 4: lavinia_pkr folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Samy_0787 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: sabbatage1 folded before Flop Seat 7: TarekGG (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: ashj22 (small blind) showed [Ad Kh] and lost with a pair of Fours Seat 9: ganz3 (big blind) folded before Flop Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 20, 2013, 03:08:17 PM I dont like the jam with 28bb... I think you can r/f here or peel and then c/f the flop depending what he bets.
I know hindsight is a beautiful thing just dont think the jam is the right move. You are on the sb so not like you are worried about the blinds coming round, you can fold here and live to fight another day!! Did you have any stats on the player? I might be wrong but I dont like it!! especially when you know you are going to be flipping at best!! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 03:13:34 PM i had 28bb the dead money = around 25% of my stack im out of position and imo jamming here dosent look very nutted and can get called by worse. if i 3 bet here i dont really see how i can 3 bet fold cos when i 3 bet it looks like a squeeze so if i 3 bet here imo i pretty much have to 3 bet call off.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 03:26:22 PM busted all 4 before itm.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 04:04:45 PM currently -$42.19 after 17 games.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 07:00:07 PM just started a session, missing the proper mtts so fired up a couple of micro stakes mtts with some $4.50 180's on the side will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 07:22:46 PM what a joke out of 1 mtt top 2 pair obv into a set zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 07:42:18 PM doubled up in the micro mtt 55 v ATo.....aipf
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 07:55:49 PM another double in the mtt AK v 34s loooooooooooooooooool
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:01:39 PM the pathetic play continues by muppets to brave to fold.
PokerStars Hand #95868158818: Tournament #706774210, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/03/20 19:47:37 WET [2013/03/20 15:47:37 ET] Table '706774210 16' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: vel1982 (6205 in chips) Seat 3: Ptaaak (3974 in chips) Seat 4: cashCanyon (2724 in chips) Seat 5: ashj22 (3140 in chips) Seat 6: androf7 (2104 in chips) Seat 7: go1denf1sh (1940 in chips) Seat 8: thegreatdon (2543 in chips) Seat 9: nico11111111 (3050 in chips) cashCanyon: posts small blind 50 ashj22: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Jd Ac] androf7: folds go1denf1sh: folds thegreatdon: folds nico11111111: folds vel1982: folds Ptaaak: folds cashCanyon: raises 200 to 300 ashj22: calls 200 *** FLOP *** [Js Tc 5s] cashCanyon: bets 600 ashj22: raises 2240 to 2840 and is all-in cashCanyon: calls 1824 and is all-in Uncalled bet (416) returned to ashj22 *** TURN *** [Js Tc 5s] [5d] *** RIVER *** [Js Tc 5s 5d] [Ts] *** SHOW DOWN *** cashCanyon: shows [Th Qs] (a full house, Tens full of Fives) ashj22: shows [Jd Ac] (two pair, Jacks and Tens) cashCanyon collected 5448 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5448 | Rake 0 Board [Js Tc 5s 5d Ts] Seat 1: vel1982 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Ptaaak (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: cashCanyon (small blind) showed [Th Qs] and won (5448) with a full house, Tens full of Fives Seat 5: ashj22 (big blind) showed [Jd Ac] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens Seat 6: androf7 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: go1denf1sh folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: thegreatdon folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: nico11111111 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: kukushkin88 on March 20, 2013, 08:08:59 PM I know it's been said already but the criticising of other players really does show that you have the wrong mindset. Do you think you would be more succesful if everybody else played perfectly? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:09:15 PM breaktime
mtt 284/699 180 sng no.1 6/128 180 sng no.2 28/83 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:10:18 PM im just writing what i see. clearly no it wouldnt do me a favour if everyone played great. i dont get this i have the wrong mindset either because im fully aware of this is where my money comes from "bad plays".
I know it's been said already but the criticising of other players really does show that you have the wrong mindset. Do you think you would be more succesful if everybody else played perfectly? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 20, 2013, 08:12:34 PM im just writing what i see. I know it's been said already but the criticising of other players really does show that you have the wrong mindset. Do you think you would be more succesful if everybody else played perfectly? Quick way of getting all the advise, support and knowledge on here to declare themselves out!! I think your attitude towards it is wrong and with this being said I wont post in here again. GL and all the best! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:14:21 PM if i cant express my emotions whats the point of having a diary?
im just writing what i see. I know it's been said already but the criticising of other players really does show that you have the wrong mindset. Do you think you would be more succesful if everybody else played perfectly? Quick way of getting all the advise, support and knowledge on here to declare themselves out!! I think your attitude towards it is wrong and with this being said I wont post in here again. GL and all the best! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 08:15:19 PM The point is Ashley.......you laughed at the chap who doubled you up when he had 3-4 v your AK, ( he lost) but got cross with the guy who beat you with his Q-10.
Do you not see the contradiction? We can't have it both ways. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:41:28 PM yeah i see what you mean now. i think its good when people play bad and i win, but i think its bad when people play bad and i lose. never thought of it like that before will try and think of the bigger picture instead.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:42:38 PM is it too loose to re ship this?
PokerStars Hand #95870639891: Tournament #706777555, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2013/03/20 20:27:33 WET [2013/03/20 16:27:33 ET] Table '706777555 11' 9-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: LychnissfloS (6976 in chips) Seat 2: ashj22 (5406 in chips) Seat 3: xlea1991! (4287 in chips) Seat 4: SOKRATISS (3400 in chips) Seat 5: Anakin71 (2045 in chips) Seat 8: SaraISS (5288 in chips) Seat 9: nunomin (2546 in chips) ashj22: posts small blind 100 xlea1991!: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Ah 8h] SOKRATISS: folds Anakin71: folds SaraISS: folds nunomin: raises 2346 to 2546 and is all-in LychnissfloS: folds ashj22: folds xlea1991!: folds Uncalled bet (2346) returned to nunomin nunomin collected 500 from pot nunomin: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 500 | Rake 0 Seat 1: LychnissfloS (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ashj22 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: xlea1991! (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: SOKRATISS folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Anakin71 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: SaraISS folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: nunomin collected (500) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 08:46:05 PM yeah i see what you mean now. i think its good when people play bad and i win, but i think its bad when people play bad and i lose. never thought of it like that before will try and think of the bigger picture instead. Nailed it. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 08:51:41 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem,
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 20, 2013, 08:57:47 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, It will come with time, you are only 24, I am almost twice that, so it comes more naturally. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: david3103 on March 20, 2013, 09:06:26 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:07:38 PM is this a re ship?
PokerStars Hand #95872359732: Tournament #704160146, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2013/03/20 20:53:47 WET [2013/03/20 16:53:47 ET] Table '704160146 77' 9-max Seat #5 is the button Seat 1: sanchya (11909 in chips) Seat 2: OG_Olga (34062 in chips) Seat 3: Bellebone (19976 in chips) Seat 4: ashj22 (14825 in chips) Seat 5: AasOpDeRiver (35570 in chips) Seat 6: artega777 (17490 in chips) Seat 7: Miguelito As (36314 in chips) Seat 8: pimapenDon (8545 in chips) Seat 9: kozoro6ec (13632 in chips) sanchya: posts the ante 100 OG_Olga: posts the ante 100 Bellebone: posts the ante 100 ashj22: posts the ante 100 AasOpDeRiver: posts the ante 100 artega777: posts the ante 100 Miguelito As: posts the ante 100 pimapenDon: posts the ante 100 kozoro6ec: posts the ante 100 artega777: posts small blind 400 Miguelito As: posts big blind 800 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [As Jd] pimapenDon: raises 7645 to 8445 and is all-in kozoro6ec: folds sanchya: folds OG_Olga: folds Bellebone: folds ashj22: folds AasOpDeRiver: folds artega777: folds Miguelito As: folds Uncalled bet (7645) returned to pimapenDon pimapenDon collected 2900 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2900 | Rake 0 Seat 1: sanchya folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: OG_Olga folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Bellebone folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: ashj22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: AasOpDeRiver (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: artega777 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: Miguelito As (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 8: pimapenDon collected (2900) Seat 9: kozoro6ec folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:09:22 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? if i was him yes i would of folded. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:13:49 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? yeah i played it fine imo in these fishes happily call off with way worse here like he did,i shoved the flop cos he bet 600 i had 2800 behind im not flatting here and then having a hard descion on a bad turn,villian prob didnt even put me on a hand and just called cos he had a pair like these fishes do, yes if i was him i would of folded. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:15:49 PM breaktime just been
only left in 2 mtt 196/284 180 man sng 24/45 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: kukushkin88 on March 20, 2013, 09:19:40 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? if i was him yes i would of folded. Did you want him to fold? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:29:05 PM itm in the mtt 178/252
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: aaron1867 on March 20, 2013, 09:31:16 PM This is a poker forum, but your diary does not need to have to be all about poker.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:34:45 PM doubled in the mtt AQ v KJ 90/226
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:47:31 PM itm in 180 man sng 6/25
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 09:51:00 PM do you call here?
PokerStars Hand #95875075895: Tournament #704160146, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (700/1400) - 2013/03/20 21:37:45 WET [2013/03/20 17:37:45 ET] Table '704160146 77' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: erwin8585 (57245 in chips) Seat 2: 8Texman9 (84270 in chips) Seat 3: Bellebone (59457 in chips) Seat 4: ashj22 (30137 in chips) Seat 5: zjoe123 (14275 in chips) Seat 6: FL_RAP (34045 in chips) Seat 7: Miguelito As (50520 in chips) Seat 8: pimapenDon (9177 in chips) Seat 9: chipraiser1 (35135 in chips) erwin8585: posts the ante 175 8Texman9: posts the ante 175 Bellebone: posts the ante 175 ashj22: posts the ante 175 zjoe123: posts the ante 175 FL_RAP: posts the ante 175 Miguelito As: posts the ante 175 pimapenDon: posts the ante 175 chipraiser1: posts the ante 175 chipraiser1: posts small blind 700 erwin8585: posts big blind 1400 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [8s 8c] 8Texman9: folds Bellebone: folds ashj22: raises 1400 to 2800 zjoe123: folds FL_RAP: raises 31070 to 33870 and is all-in Miguelito As: folds pimapenDon: folds chipraiser1: folds erwin8585: folds ashj22: folds Uncalled bet (31070) returned to FL_RAP FL_RAP collected 9275 from pot FL_RAP: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 9275 | Rake 0 Seat 1: erwin8585 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 2: 8Texman9 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: Bellebone folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: ashj22 folded before Flop Seat 5: zjoe123 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: FL_RAP collected (9275) Seat 7: Miguelito As folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: pimapenDon (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: chipraiser1 (small blind) folded before Flop Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:08:15 PM break time.......still in both
mtt 92/106 180 man sng 12/19 Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dwayne110 on March 20, 2013, 10:18:59 PM i'm quickly folding 8's there... you've min raised in early position, most of the time you're either flipping or crushed by overpairs. still have 20 bb's left too, plenty of play left. shove with it but def not calling off with it.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:21:39 PM thanks for the feedback
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:28:37 PM out in 12th in the 180 man sng
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:30:39 PM over all 20 played and -$48.68
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:33:20 PM out of the mtt now 79/2233 ran into aa in both
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 10:35:21 PM is this a jam?
PokerStars Hand #95877353656: Tournament #704160146, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXIV (1500/3000) - 2013/03/20 22:17:15 WET [2013/03/20 18:17:15 ET] Table '704160146 59' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 2: latteLisa_90 (133684 in chips) Seat 3: buckstone198 (78906 in chips) Seat 4: ashj22 (39182 in chips) Seat 5: sokratiszit (40042 in chips) Seat 6: MrFreddie06 (54566 in chips) Seat 7: Watterprofi (50049 in chips) Seat 8: jeffybird (51021 in chips) Seat 9: hennerz0 (68273 in chips) latteLisa_90: posts the ante 375 buckstone198: posts the ante 375 ashj22: posts the ante 375 sokratiszit: posts the ante 375 MrFreddie06: posts the ante 375 Watterprofi: posts the ante 375 jeffybird: posts the ante 375 hennerz0: posts the ante 375 latteLisa_90: posts small blind 1500 buckstone198: posts big blind 3000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Qc Kd] ashj22: folds sokratiszit: raises 3000 to 6000 MrFreddie06: folds Watterprofi: folds jeffybird: folds hennerz0: folds latteLisa_90: folds buckstone198: folds Uncalled bet (3000) returned to sokratiszit sokratiszit collected 10500 from pot sokratiszit: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 10500 | Rake 0 Seat 2: latteLisa_90 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: buckstone198 (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: ashj22 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: sokratiszit collected (10500) Seat 6: MrFreddie06 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Watterprofi folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: jeffybird folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: hennerz0 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 20, 2013, 11:23:14 PM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? What would add a lot to this though is if we had some stats on the players. Especially things like PFR and fold to 3bet stats. Ash, are you using PT or HEM? Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 20, 2013, 11:27:55 PM no i dont use a hud at the moment i did get the 30 day trial with hem2 i think it was but didnt know how to set it up so just played without it.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: david3103 on March 21, 2013, 10:24:15 AM i find it hard to think of the bigger picture in the heat of the moment thats the problem, Count to 100 before you react, and review the hands before posting? That AJ v Q10 hand for instance. Do you think you played it well? Why shove the flop? What was villain supposed to think about your hand? In his shoes would you fold there? What would add a lot to this though is if we had some stats on the players. Especially things like PFR and fold to 3bet stats. Ash, are you using PT or HEM? Worse called, but here's the thing, he also calls a lot with better here a very large proportion of the time and we don't have any clues about him. HEM2, now it's working properly, gives you some of those clues and much more. Worth investing money, and time. FWIW I wasn't necessarily criticising the way the hand played out. But posting it for a line-check with a WWYD on the flop question will generate better results than just raging against the fact that the 10 fell on the river. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: Rod on March 21, 2013, 10:34:33 AM David he doesn't call with better a large percentage of the time mate. He does not have better a large percentage of the time to do this. Yes he calls every time he has a better hand but that is unusual we are ahead more often than not when he calls. The question is do we make more chips by flatting the flop and letting him fire the air in hid range on the turn. Will discuss later :-)
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 02:07:14 PM Is the AJ hand in question the hand where villain bets 600 and we have 2800 total on jt5 w/ fd?
Played perfectly imo, no other option but to go allin. We are ahead 9 times out of 10, we get called by worse jacks, Tx getting stubborn cos there's a fd, flush draws also call, and hands like KQ, Q9 even AK AQ might call (probs not far off the right price) and there's loads of bad turn cards for us, that either lose us action (eg spade comes and KJ/AT shuts down) or we don't know what to do on (eg K or Q comes and he bets, we don't know what to do). Wp OP imo. My tip would be to not post mid session or directly after sessions. The raw emotions come out easily and you usually regret them. I have kept a diary here for over 2 years and have had the same problems and it's defo better to just wait till after the session to post when you're more relaxed and rational. It's impossible to not feel some of the things you feel- "what are you doing? Why are you calling!" Because it is annoying when they win, but it only takes a beer, a chat with a mate or whatever and a lot of experience (both in poker and life (why Tikay shines in this area;) ) to realise that we may not like it, but we need these things to happen to make a profit from this game long term. Tikay has put it better than me as usual, but I thought I'd throw my 2c in as a fellow 24 year old who had these issues and is still a mental game fish from time to time. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 02:51:17 PM thanks for all the feedback and advice guys much appreciated.so i have been trying to go to bed at reasonable time so inturn i get up ay a reasonable time so i got the whole day to plan things out but last night i ended up going sleep like 4am <----------------- reading a few threads on here some of them are just insane long. so today i woke up at 2pm, what im going to do is fire up some 180's around 4 or 5ish and throw the $2.20 micro mill on the side will post updates later..........................gl at the tables.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 03:07:39 PM My tip would be to not post mid session or directly after sessions. The raw emotions come out easily and you usually regret them. simple but very effective piece of advice. thanks Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: cambridgealex on March 21, 2013, 03:08:51 PM Mines called prose from a poshboy, yeh it's ridic long! Just read the first couple of pages then you can jump to the end.
The middle is just some losing, some winning etc lol Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 21, 2013, 03:22:09 PM Mines called prose from a poshboy, yeh it's ridic long! Just read the first couple of pages then you can jump to the end. The middle is just some losing, some winning etc lol Its one of the best diaries on here...it does go off on a tangent from time to time but the majority is a great read!! Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 06:06:55 PM OOPS!..........somehow i got a trojan so spent the last 2 hours trying to get rid of it, i got rid of summit dunno if it was the trojan or not though. minor problem the micro mill starts in 10 mins and because of all this trojan shite i havent had time to review my hh,i suppose i can just late reg so no big deal.dont like the idea of typing in passwords when there could a trojan on the loose though but im gonna play will post updates throughout, but will try and keep to posting hands a while after so my emotions are not coming across to strong if its a bad beat lol.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 06:18:08 PM i know i said i will post hands in a while but cant resist lol insanely sick spot wtf do you do here?
PokerStars Hand #95914958228: Tournament #2013004068, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2013/03/21 18:02:30 WET [2013/03/21 14:02:30 ET] Table '2013004068 620' 9-max Seat #3 is the button Seat 1: kuubla (10180 in chips) Seat 2: oleusz (4880 in chips) Seat 3: deathstar200 (4940 in chips) Seat 4: kamu888 (4890 in chips) Seat 5: raiNexXy (5000 in chips) Seat 6: bozo0813 (5000 in chips) Seat 7: Veselov90 (5110 in chips) Seat 8: Pato.Xaruto (5000 in chips) Seat 9: ashj22 (5000 in chips) kamu888: posts small blind 10 raiNexXy: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Ac Ad] bozo0813: folds Veselov90: folds Pato.Xaruto: folds ashj22: raises 20 to 40 kuubla: folds oleusz: raises 50 to 90 deathstar200: folds kamu888: folds raiNexXy: folds ashj22: raises 165 to 255 oleusz: calls 165 *** FLOP *** [Ah 2h Ks] ashj22: bets 333 oleusz: calls 333 *** TURN *** [Ah 2h Ks]
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 06:34:48 PM right i got 2 micro stakes mtts and 2 180's on the go
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 06:45:32 PM will just leave it for the bad beats that need time to cool off for posting.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 07:11:10 PM breaktime
180 sng 78/111 180 sng 43/100 mtt micro mill 12687/13549 mtt $3.30 1314/1343 just lost biggish flip AQ v tt Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 07:18:11 PM out of the $3.30 lost my JJ v 99 aipf
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 07:31:50 PM out of micro mill lost another flip AK v QQ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 07:52:20 PM busted 2 180 sngs ran QQ into AA and then lost AA v QTs
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 07:55:51 PM i know this 3 bet looks strong imo but can i fold here?
PokerStars Hand #95919003152: Tournament #707266627, $4.10+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2013/03/21 19:14:01 WET [2013/03/21 15:14:01 ET] Table '707266627 14' 9-max Seat #9 is the button Seat 1: Bangggaard (2202 in chips) Seat 2: remcovn (4204 in chips) Seat 3: shevalex09 (7903 in chips) Seat 5: ashj22 (2698 in chips) Seat 6: PNZ04 (750 in chips) Seat 7: Fagg8 (1075 in chips) Seat 8: traxting (1270 in chips) Seat 9: fizzlediz88 (2315 in chips) Bangggaard: posts small blind 50 remcovn: posts big blind 100 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ashj22 [Qh Qs] shevalex09: folds ashj22: raises 100 to 200 PNZ04: folds Fagg8: folds traxting: folds fizzlediz88: raises 400 to 600 Bangggaard: calls 550 remcovn: folds ashj22: raises 2098 to 2698 and is all-in fizzlediz88: calls 1715 and is all-in Bangggaard: calls 1602 and is all-in Uncalled bet (383) returned to ashj22 *** FLOP *** [Jc 6d Ah] *** TURN *** [Jc 6d Ah] [4h] *** RIVER *** [Jc 6d Ah 4h] [8s] *** SHOW DOWN *** ashj22: shows [Qh Qs] (a pair of Queens) fizzlediz88: shows [Ac As] (three of a kind, Aces) fizzlediz88 collected 226 from side pot Bangggaard: shows [td Ad] (a pair of Aces) fizzlediz88 collected 6706 from main pot Bangggaard finished the tournament in 93rd place *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 6932 Main pot 6706. Side pot 226. | Rake 0 Board [Jc 6d Ah 4h 8s] Seat 1: Bangggaard (small blind) showed [td Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces Seat 2: remcovn (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 3: shevalex09 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: ashj22 showed [Qh Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens Seat 6: PNZ04 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Fagg8 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: traxting folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: fizzlediz88 (button) showed [Ac As] and won (6932) with three of a kind, Aces Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 08:46:51 PM this getting annoying now just busted another sitting on bb with ato and like 7bb im thinking just fold to the sb and then hope he shoves<---------------that does happen but ofc the sb has ak hahahahahahahahahah just fired up another 3 come onnnnnnnnnnnnnn! i need to get a top 3 pronto!...................will keep you updated.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dwayne110 on March 21, 2013, 09:46:03 PM I think the Queens hand is a little awkward given the number of BBs you have left, as asides from the 3 bet size the call behind from Banggard looks really strong given you're still to act (his play really bad imo)....but with 26 bb's I think I'd play it as you have almost all the time unless we have strong information to suggest the opponent's range(s) in this spot are restricted to Aces/Kings/AK
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 10:16:46 PM so sick played 7 today busted 5 out the money only 2 left,last 2 for the night.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:02:28 PM just 1 left and doubled on the bubble QQ v AJ
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:04:50 PM itm right in the middle of the pack 13/27
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dwayne110 on March 21, 2013, 11:12:17 PM nice, how many runners? GL!
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: chelseaboy on March 21, 2013, 11:12:38 PM GL.... Take it down!!
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:22:02 PM nice, how many runners? GL! is just one of the 180'sTitle: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:26:55 PM 12/18
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:32:11 PM once again lost a flip at crucial time QQ v AK
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:33:33 PM out in 17th for another pathetic run.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 21, 2013, 11:36:48 PM 27 played -$73.17 <-------------makes me sick just looking at it,still a miniscule sample tho i guess.............chin up!
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: tikay on March 22, 2013, 12:07:33 PM will just leave it for the bad beats that need time to cool off for posting. Morning Ashley. If you don't mind me saying, I still think you are running at this the wrong way. Firstly, yes, a great idea to calm down, let the steam subside, after you have become a bit angry, or tilted, mad, upset, whatever, at a beat. But..... All you are doing is addressing the symptoms, not the cause. The symptoms are the annoyance, the angst, the tilt, but the CAUSE is getting upset about the beat in the first place. If you cure the cause, the symptoms will not appear again. So we need to try & rationalise these "beats" which stick in our mind. 1) We remember the beats, but we tend to forget when we hold, or when we suckout on others. It cuts BOTH ways, don't use selective memory, you are only harming yourself. 2) Bad beats. If you play - say - 10 Tourneys or SNG's every day, you ARE going to experience, say, 20 bad beats per day. You just ARE. Nothing you can do will ever stop that. It is how poker works. Always has, always will. EVERY player suffers them exactly the same. Everyone. Nobody on earth gives a toss about your beats, we have our own. We all do. Every single last one of us. NO EXCEPTIONS. So let us assume 20 per day, that is 140 per week, over 500 times per month you are going to get uppity. Does that really sound like fun, something to look forward to? Any good player will work that out over time, & stop wasting negative energy on fretting about bad beats. Why worry, we cannot prevent them, they are natural, they ARE poker. Look at the top pros on blonde, generally speaking they just shrug their shoulders & move on. As a little experiment, try this. It will probably cost you $10 or $20. maximum. Play half a dozen $2 Omaha SNG's or DYM's. Bad beats? You ain't seen nothing until you play Omaha, trust me. Bad beats are x times more prevelant in Omaha, but Omaha players understand that. Next case, move on, sorta thing. Anyway, I hope some of that helps. It pains me to see amateur poker players - 99.9% of us are amateurs - not enjoying the game as they should. Personally, I can't begin to imagine playing a recreational game in which I knew I would get upset every day. Makes no sense if you think about it, does it? Good luck. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: AJR14 on March 22, 2013, 02:29:01 PM Good post Tikay. Hope the luck turns around for you soon ash. Gl Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: dwayne110 on March 22, 2013, 03:02:22 PM Yeah, great post. A good way to look at it is that the degree to which someone 'tilts' is a test of character - people with strong, disciplined, logical mindsets are less likely to lose their composure when a stressful situation occurs. Think of James Bond....lol
Challenge yourself to improve this side of your game and I'm sure your results will show an improvement over the long term. Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: LIONRAMPANT on March 22, 2013, 03:42:06 PM Good post Tikay. Hope the luck turns around for you soon ash. Gl Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 22, 2013, 05:35:37 PM will just leave it for the bad beats that need time to cool off for posting. Morning Ashley. If you don't mind me saying, I still think you are running at this the wrong way. Firstly, yes, a great idea to calm down, let the steam subside, after you have become a bit angry, or tilted, mad, upset, whatever, at a beat. But..... All you are doing is addressing the symptoms, not the cause. The symptoms are the annoyance, the angst, the tilt, but the CAUSE is getting upset about the beat in the first place. If you cure the cause, the symptoms will not appear again. So we need to try & rationalise these "beats" which stick in our mind. 1) We remember the beats, but we tend to forget when we hold, or when we suckout on others. It cuts BOTH ways, don't use selective memory, you are only harming yourself. 2) Bad beats. If you play - say - 10 Tourneys or SNG's every day, you ARE going to experience, say, 20 bad beats per day. You just ARE. Nothing you can do will ever stop that. It is how poker works. Always has, always will. EVERY player suffers them exactly the same. Everyone. Nobody on earth gives a toss about your beats, we have our own. We all do. Every single last one of us. NO EXCEPTIONS. So let us assume 20 per day, that is 140 per week, over 500 times per month you are going to get uppity. Does that really sound like fun, something to look forward to? Any good player will work that out over time, & stop wasting negative energy on fretting about bad beats. Why worry, we cannot prevent them, they are natural, they ARE poker. Look at the top pros on blonde, generally speaking they just shrug their shoulders & move on. As a little experiment, try this. It will probably cost you $10 or $20. maximum. Play half a dozen $2 Omaha SNG's or DYM's. Bad beats? You ain't seen nothing until you play Omaha, trust me. Bad beats are x times more prevelant in Omaha, but Omaha players understand that. Next case, move on, sorta thing. Anyway, I hope some of that helps. It pains me to see amateur poker players - 99.9% of us are amateurs - not enjoying the game as they should. Personally, I can't begin to imagine playing a recreational game in which I knew I would get upset every day. Makes no sense if you think about it, does it? Good luck. thanks for going to all this effort to help me out.i know how bad variance can get and that everyone has to deal with it,im a very competitive person and i hate losing "even at monopoly" the thing is when i post things like "another pathetic run" it may come across like its getting to me but in reality it is not at all,im always hard on myself if i dont do well always have been and always will,it just makes you try harder next time imo. im not a robot im human and i have emotions im not just going bust like 6 in a row then come and write "oh well hope it goes better next time" im going to write it as i see it.i am enjoying playing aswell because if i wasnt i would just not play, Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 22, 2013, 05:36:22 PM thanks for everyones support,advice and feedback........appreciate it.
Title: Re: Diary on the $4.50 180 man sngs Post by: ashj22 on March 22, 2013, 05:39:12 PM i may take a break today from the 180's and play on a different site or just play summit else.
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